Hayes manager on fighting Wladimir Klitschko.
From Boxing News today (source not confirmed):
"We said everything would be 50-50 but that each territory could go to where the highest amount could be made. They insisted that the German territory would have to be RTL but ARD are our partner and would be interested in showing the fight. Our view was, 'if you want to restrict your territory, you keep it and we'll have have the UK and you have Germany. Everything else can stay 50-50.' Also Sauerland Event gave us the opportunity to win the WBA tile and are our promotional partner - they need to be considered. We've never said no to the Klitschko fight."
"There are plenty of other options out there, David's not really interested in Audley Harrison. There is a lot of talk about Audley being a fight people want to see but I'm not convinced. Tomasz Adamek could sell a lot of tickets to Poles in London. But David is the British world heavyweight champion and in London the maximum indoor capacity is 14,700. The MEN is an option.
Haye's excuses get more ridiculous and downright pathetic every time. This is what like the 4th time Haye doesn't want a fight? But he keeps yapping how he's going to unify the division and writing HW history?
Please. Haye should be ignored from hereon. He was obivously never serious with what he said and he's now just pissing on us boxing fans.
50/50 is an amazingly generous offer from the ring champ with belts to a new guy in the division and its not good enough appartently?? Hayes fight will be popular in the UK mainly because he will be fighting the top guy in the division, so klit should give up all the UK ppv when its his name that is a big selling point to the fight? Whats wrong with 50/50 all round with everything split like is offered? I think klit has a contract with rtl or someone so i persume the fight would need to be shown on it, at the end of the day the fight will sell big and both will make big money but the offer was passed up on by hayes camp, end of story, i dont think he should be defended in any way with this, it will just encourage him i think
If what am reading from both camp is true then it makes sense for all the monies to be in the pot and share it, I didnt know Wlad doesnt charge PPV in Germany.
it doesnt matter. haye would just use a different excuse. he should have jumped at 50/50. he obviously wants no part of wlad as he was offered a much better deal then he deserves
What's the 50-50% deal entail?
50/50 is an amazingly generous offer from the ring champ with belts to a new guy in the division and its not good enough appartently?? Hayes fight will be popular in the UK mainly because he will be fighting the top guy in the division, so klit should give up all the UK ppv when its his name that is a big selling point to the fight? Whats wrong with 50/50 all round with everything split like is offered? I think klit has a contract with rtl or someone so i persume the fight would need to be shown on it, at the end of the day the fight will sell big and both will make big money but the offer was passed up on by hayes camp, end of story, i dont think he should be defended in any way with this, it will just encourage him i think
Shelly finkey said the samething, Why cant Wlad keep is german PPV and let Haye keep his british PPV?
it doesnt matter. haye would just use a different excuse. he should have jumped at 50/50. he obviously wants no part of wlad as he was offered a much better deal then he deserves
I guess am talking to the wrong person, You are a moron and a joke, You targeting the wrong english fan, I couldnt care less about Haye, Hatton or any british fighter who do things the wrong way.:wave:
Hatton is a bright shining example of heroism compared to David Haye.
Maybe Amir Khan would have been more appropriate for the point you were making.
WTF??? Because am from the UK you think i have Haye's balls in my face? You must be retarded, I tell you one thing... If you check my post history about Haye/Wlad and you can find one where i backed him over Wlad or make any excuses for him over the last few weeks then i would donate 1 million point to you. Because my location says london means jackshit, I didnt know Wlad doesnt charge PPV in Germany period.
Well I apologize for singling you out but the topic has been beaten to death the past few days and I have been trying to no avail to explain Haye's angle to English fans who just seem to let it go right over their heads.
The scenario Haye is proposing will 100% surely lead to him making more money than Wlad, that is why he wants it. He is basically saying "I will not fight Klitschko because I want it 55-45 or 60-40 in my favor" which is how it would turn out if Haye got his wish.
Haye knows that a PPV against Klitschko will draw 3 or 4 times as many viewers as his PPV against Ruiz.
So common sense tells you that 75% of the audience is turning in because it's Wladimir Klitschko why should he not get at least 50% of revenue?
Haye knows a Klitschko fight will quadruple the viewers and even with only a 50% cut he would still bring home double or more the PPV revenue he generated in his last fight whilst taking 100%.
Even with double or triple his normal PPV, 50% of a 10 million dollar purse, HBO money + German TV money Haye will not take the fight.
What does that say?
I hope I made this easier to understand and I didn't mean to be a cunt I am just tired of explaining it to people when 90% of Haye's fans just choose to ignore it like it's not FACT.
if wlad doesnt charge ppv then surely he gets huge advertising revenue between rounds when they go to adverts?
so let me gets this right, wlad should keep ppv money from the uk which haye makes since wlad only fights on free tv lol?
wow, I wish klit fans would stop also restorting to "you are a nut hugger, you suck haye balls" if they dont bow down and accept the brothers as their ****ing god
It doesn't sound fair to David Haye.
I guess you guys can just pay $30 to watch him fight Audley instead of paying $30 to watch him fight Klitschko.
Obviously he knows his fans have a very low boxing IQ and will be willing to pay to see him fight Tony Booth again if it comes down to it.
I guess am talking to the wrong person, You are a moron and a joke, You targeting the wrong english fan, I couldnt care less about Haye, Hatton or any british fighter who do things the wrong way.:wave:
How about this, so the fights held in Germany? In front of 60k people? All of whom would be German and therefore Klitschko fans. They all clearly would buy the ppv if not at the fight. So the Klitschko's either a. should get all gate money or B. be compensated for 60k ppv buys. Pretty simple math in my opinion.
Oh and Hayes a bitch.
Oh and the Klitschko's make far more money than Haye.
No they would not all be german, brits are huge boxing fans and at least 20k if not more would be brits
I'm sure all you are doing right now is trying to think of how you can phrase a response saying that Wlad is stupid for not agreeing to let Haye keep 100% of the PPV and make more money than him.
WTF??? Because am from the UK you think i have Haye's balls in my face? You must be retarded, I tell you one thing... If you check my post history about Haye/Wlad and you can find one where i backed him over Wlad or make any excuses for him over the last few weeks then i would donate 1 million point to you. Because my location says london means jackshit, I didnt know Wlad doesnt charge PPV in Germany period.
You learn a new thing everyday, If they have the fight in germany in a 60000 odd stadium, Plus PPV from the UK, plus TV money around germany or euro or HBO (Who would be interested) then they can put it all together and split it at a %.. That sound fair me.
It doesn't sound fair to David Haye.
I guess you guys can just pay $30 to watch him fight Audley instead of paying $30 to watch him fight Klitschko.
Obviously he knows his fans have a very low boxing IQ and will be willing to pay to see him fight Tony Booth again if it comes down to it.
WFT?? Do you have some PMS issues or something? Do you see me argue with anyone on here about PPV in germany? I asked a legitimate question you fuvkhead!!! I hate morons like you.
I have just been told that Wlad doesnt charge PPV in germany which i havent even reply to yet but now i am been accuse by you "If i cant get it through my head" Go fvck yourself for that reply.
I'm sure all you are doing right now is trying to think of how you can phrase a response saying that Wlad is stupid for not agreeing to let Haye keep 100% of the PPV and make more money than him.
Because Wlad does not do the PPV and is not going to fight for free for someone else's.
If this fight happened would it be on free tv in germany?
Thank for the replies, Never knew Wlad doesnt charge PPV in germany. Thats why i was wondering why each fighter couldnt keep his countries PPV to make the fight easier to make.
You learn a new thing everyday, If they have the fight in germany in a 60000 odd stadium, Plus PPV from the UK, plus TV money around germany or euro or HBO (Who would be interested) then they can put it all together and split it at a %.. That sound fair me.
If you can't get it through your head that Wlad isn't charging PPV in Germany then you will never understand the situation.
I don't see what is so complex about it.
Haye wants to force a PPV market, and then keep 100% of all PPV revenue.
If Wlad's fight is going to shown on PPV, it is only fair that he gets 50% of the cut.
Anyone who actually supports a scenario where Haye makes more money than Klitschko obviously doesn't have any interest in actually seeing the fight happen.
To do everything 50-50 across the board is a huge concession by Wlad.
If Haye wants to keep his UK PPV then he should agree to only taking 35% or 40% of the purse.
WFT?? Do you have some PMS issues or something? Do you see me argue with anyone on here about PPV in germany? I asked a legitimate question you fuvkhead!!! I hate morons like you.
I have just been told that Wlad doesnt charge PPV in germany which i havent even reply to yet but now i am been accuse by you "If i cant get it through my head" Go fvck yourself for that reply.
Shelly finkey said the samething, Why cant Wlad keep is german PPV and let Haye keep his british PPV?
If you can't get it through your head that Wlad isn't charging PPV in Germany then you will never understand the situation.
I don't see what is so complex about it.
Haye wants to force a PPV market, and then keep 100% of all PPV revenue.
If Wlad's fight is going to shown on PPV, it is only fair that he gets 50% of the cut.
Anyone who actually supports a scenario where Haye makes more money than Klitschko obviously doesn't have any interest in actually seeing the fight happen.
To do everything 50-50 across the board is a huge concession by Wlad.
If Haye wants to keep his UK PPV then he should agree to only taking 35% or 40% of the purse.