As of right now, who's greater: Mayweather or Pacquiao?

floyd was eaten up on ur pathetic poll so STFU TS lol...

You obviously don't know anything about steroids, so stop trying to act like you do. "Years of steroids use"? lol. So you think he was using it when he was in his prime and during his time off from boxing? You're just digging straws. The guy signed up for random drug testing and was found to be clean. He looked absolutely marvelous against Mosley, just like he did against Marquez. He looked exactly the same in both fights, but you say he's juicing, despite having his blood being tested. You should just get off the computer and walk into a wall. haha, like you do since floyd is mr usada all of a sudden. have a roided bodybuilder go through 1 month of testing, you think he'll lose all his muscle? from hulk to banner? haha. what a ****in neat concept by floyd, its a joke. you should get off your "google" and try to really learn about training and the use of steroids. 1 month of testing doesnt prove shit.

So both fighters weigh the same.. but it's unfair? We're not talking about one fighter staying the same while the other one goes up in weight after temporarily draining himself (like fighters Mayweather has fought throughout his whole career). Both fighters weighed the same and one shut out the other. Career featherweight man, JMM was a career featherweight. Sure, FMJ would prolly have shut an in prime, in his comfy weight JMM, but the fact remains that JMM isn't a welter. If Pacquiao were to beat up Calderon and by some miracle Calderon, even in his losing effort, still moved like his normal self but was FAT, then you won't give Pacquiao credit for fighting Calderon.

The issue is not whether they weighed the same. Look at it this way, if Marquez belonged in WW, then he should have been comfortably campaigning at WW even after losing to FMJ. The fact that NO ONE can imagine JMM fight as a WW decently against regular WW's, clearly indicates that JMM doesn't belong to WW, and therefore, FMJ won against an out of his weightclass JMM - nothing to be proud about. So both fighters weigh the same.. but it's unfair? We're not talking about one fighter staying the same while the other one goes up in weight after temporarily draining himself (like fighters Mayweather has fought throughout his whole career). Both fighters weighed the same and one shut out the other.

Marquez pretty much weighed in the same as Floyd, as Floyd isn't the type to gain a lot of weight after the weigh-in. Marquez also weighed around the same as Pacquiao, in their two fights. Now let's make a comparison: - Pacquiao struggled with Marquez and had two close fights. Some think he lost both. - Mayweather completely shut out Marquez The issue is not whether they weighed the same. Look at it this way, if Marquez belonged in WW, then he should have been comfortably campaigning at WW even after losing to FMJ. The fact that NO ONE can imagine JMM fight as a WW decently against regular WW's, clearly indicates that JMM doesn't belong to WW, and therefore, FMJ won against an out of his weightclass JMM - nothing to be proud about. -------------- edit: shogunn's post gave me an idea, if boxing were to standardize stricter testing, then a fighter could 'retire' and 'unretire' and this way, one can do cycles of PED's during those retirements. :) But i don't think either FMJ nor Pac is on something. All of this is just posturing. Both guys have huge egos.

just as smart as saying JMM and floyd were the same size, haha. They didnt even weight the same at the weigh in, thats for sure. the benefits of years of roid use dont cycle out of 1 month testing, you have to be stupid or retarded to even begin to even think of that. im not saying floyd is on roids, but if he accuses then he can be accused. You obviously don't know anything about steroids, so stop trying to act like you do. "Years of steroids use"? lol. So you think he was using it when he was in his prime and during his time off from boxing? You're just digging straws. The guy signed up for random drug testing and was found to be clean. He looked absolutely marvelous against Mosley, just like he did against Marquez. He looked exactly the same in both fights, but you say he's juicing, despite having his blood being tested. You should just get off the computer and walk into a wall.

You say he's juicing but he does random drug testing? Wow, you're smart. :dunce: just as smart as saying JMM and floyd were the same size, haha. They didnt even weight the same at the weigh in, thats for sure. the benefits of years of roid use dont cycle out of 1 month testing, you have to be stupid or retarded to even begin to even think of that. im not saying floyd is on roids, but if he accuses then he can be accused.

haha, who the ****in are you trying to kid. Floyd was alot bigger than JMM Also, floyd does gain alot of weight. This isnt floyd of 06-07...he's been juicing or something since he came back from retirement. He's obviously much bigger now. Compare weigh in pics to fight night, and take off the floyd glasses. You say he's juicing but he does random drug testing? Wow, you're smart. :dunce:

Marquez pretty much weighed in the same as Floyd, as Floyd isn't the type to gain a lot of weight after the weigh-in. Marquez also weighed around the same as Pacquiao, in their two fights. Now let's make a comparison: - Pacquiao struggled with Marquez and had two close fights. Some think he lost both. - Mayweather completely shut out Marquez haha, who the ****in are you trying to kid. Floyd was alot bigger than JMM Also, floyd does gain alot of weight. This isnt floyd of 06-07...he's been juicing or something since he came back from retirement. He's obviously much bigger now. Compare weigh in pics to fight night, and take off the floyd glasses.

Mayweather is the better boxer, Pacquiao is the greater fighter.

What the hell, a win over a fat, out of his division JMM is something to brag about? I don't usually nitpick, but since you've basically decided to nitpick a fighter's resume, then i might as well do the same to your post. So what if JMM was #2? the fight was at 146 or whatever last minute change in the contracted weight, FFS. Its like having a Klitsko fan brag if either K pummels Floyd or Pacquiao. It's RETARDED. Marquez pretty much weighed in the same as Floyd, as Floyd isn't the type to gain a lot of weight after the weigh-in. Marquez also weighed around the same as Pacquiao, in their two fights. Now let's make a comparison: - Pacquiao struggled with Marquez and had two close fights. Some think he lost both. - Mayweather completely shut out Marquez

better boxer: floyd ATG status: PAC come at me bros

How many slick fighters has Pacquiao beat? The closest to a slick fighter that Pacquiao has faced was Marquez and we all know what happened there. Floyd has beat a fighter of every category. Pure boxer, slickter, brawler, slugger, etc. Not to mention he beat the better versions of Pacquiao's biggest wins and also beat the fighters that Pacquiao ducked (such as Mosley). Pacquiao lost to a weight-drained and shot Morales, that lost to Zahir Raheem in his next fight. That's gotta hurt his legacy a lot. Floyd has also beat more of these "world champions" that you love to talk about. Plus, can you make one fighter who came out of retirement and beat the #2 and #3 P4P fighters consecutively? I don't know anyone in history who has done that. What the hell, a win over a fat, out of his division JMM is something to brag about? I don't usually nitpick, but since you've basically decided to nitpick a fighter's resume, then i might as well do the same to your post. So what if JMM was #2? the fight was at 146 or whatever last minute change in the contracted weight, FFS. Its like having a Klitsko fan brag if either K pummels Floyd or Pacquiao. It's RETARDED.

Pacquiaos accomplishments outweigh Floyds, but Floyd is the better fighter hes just been reluctant to prove it.

It's not even close.

Muhammad ALi.

Oscar Gatti Hernandez Corralles Castillo Marquez Mosley Marquez don't count Milton

bullshit.....who ?.........and link! Oscar Gatti Hernandez Corralles Castillo Marquez Mosley

Me or You? Me

Pac>Floyd :boxing: