Do you believe that Arum's "proposal" is real or "media spin"?

I like the skewed poll choices by the way...."Arum is legit", lol good one. I think Arum is a scumbag personally but I can't believe Floyd and his people did not know that Arum was telling all this stuff to the media and remained silent about it until after the "deadline". There is nothing he or his people can say to convince me that no negotiations took place....that is so far to go to make Floyd look bad when all he had to do to make Arum look like a fool was say 3 words: "Arum is lying" yeah I bet if Ross himself tells you Arum is full of shit you still not going to believe it and for the record this is not the 1st time leonard ellerbe said no negotiation is taking place

thats funny because my momma gave me up, thank god, and went back to her life on the track----and later had you. i hope i'm not the one who just told you about her old days at the track. :owned: HAHAHA....nice one http://www.epicallyfunnypictures.com/FunnyPictures/Owned/42525711pwned.jpg

I sure as hell don't believe it. Even in the Michigan papers that's the same sentiments. They all believe Arum is full of shit. And Pac still hasnt signed the contract. I believe Team Mayweather has no idea what the hell Arum is talking about. Arum is just leaking all these shit articles to websites so when Pac ens up fighting Cotto or Marg, Arum can turn around and say " see look Mayweather turned down the fight". Poll to come. I like the skewed poll choices by the way...."Arum is legit", lol good one. I think Arum is a scumbag personally but I can't believe Floyd and his people did not know that Arum was telling all this stuff to the media and remained silent about it until after the "deadline". There is nothing he or his people can say to convince me that no negotiations took place....that is so far to go to make Floyd look bad when all he had to do to make Arum look like a fool was say 3 words: "Arum is lying"

we all had our suspicions but Floyd played himself on the “no comment” bullshit could have ended all this mess a long time ago.

So Burner was right. LMFAO.

I sure as hell don't believe it. Even in the Michigan papers that's the same sentiments. They all believe Arum is full of shit. And Pac still hasnt signed the contract. I believe Team Mayweather has no idea what the hell Arum is talking about. Arum is just leaking all these shit articles to websites so when Pac ens up fighting Cotto or Marg, Arum can turn around and say " see look Mayweather turned down the fight". Poll to come. hmmm..i don't think the press/media will allow arum to use them for this circus. secondly, floyd will not allow this black propaganda to destroy his reputation...little common sense, please..

and then your momma swallowed every drop of it. thats funny because my momma gave me up, thank god, and went back to her life on the track----and later had you. i hope i'm not the one who just told you about her old days at the track. :owned:

and then you woke up in a pool of your own dna. the end and then your momma swallowed every drop of it.

bottomline is: Floyd don't want none of Pacquiao. that's all there is to it! there will be no fight because Floyd dont want it. the end. and then you woke up in a pool of your own dna. the end

Since no counter reaction yet from the opposite camp, chances are might be real for now. That's what I'm thinking as well.

Since no counter reaction yet from the opposite camp, chances are might be real for now.

however you contort, twist, spin, manipulate stories about this fight, bottomline is: Floyd don't want none of Pacquiao. that's all there is to it! there will be no fight because Floyd dont want it. the end.

however you contort, twist, spin, manipulate stories about this fight, bottomline is: Floyd don't want none of Pacquiao. that's all there is to it! there will be no fight because Floyd dont want it. the end.

If the fight has been agreed then BOTH promoters Arum (Top rank) and Schaffer (GBP) would come out and make a statement on behalf of both fighters, We wouldnt have the "I was lying yesterday, Telling the truth today" Mr Arum coming out and saying the fight has been agreed to and they only need Mayweather to yes to the "Proposal". 100% Media spin, It so clear to see even Stevie wonder can see it from Arum's statement. I think you are spot on bro.

That's exactly why I don't think there's a court ordered Gag Order. Depending on the stipulations placed on that gag order, Arum nor ODH should've said anything at all let alone Oscar messin up and maybe letting too much out of the bag and or Arum making claims of the weight, glove size, purse, etc. Now with that being said, there's a lot both parties haven't covered when discussing both fighters' demands and other money sources (gate, PPV split), promotion, billing name (who's name goes 1st), etc. I just think this time around the pressure is on both GBP and TR to get the fight signed. From what I'm seeing, it would take something out of left field to shut the fight down, and I don't see anything as of yet to make me think otherwise. Both dudes and GBP and TR are gonna make a killing. That's how I see it. Wouldn't be surprised if negotiations are complete and announced after the World Cup.

It's clear that Arums proposal is all a media spin in some peoples minds. With that in mind, November is approaching, planning an event this big takes time. Where is Floyd in all of this?

i thought oscar denied the quotes? the article i read said oscar has no connections whatsoever to the discussions so there was no way he could have know it was done or not. also, andre ward was on a radio show interview in a thread on this very site saying he was completely misquoted; by was it, ring magazine? i've seen so much made up shiit in the media with this fight, that i believe dlh when he denies the quotes. hes a pusssi who never fought in the streets and plays by the rules. if he wasnt the boss, basically i would label him as a yesman. one thing the gag order did do was keep freddys mouth shut. I speak Spanish fluently and Oscar clearly stated "The fight is about done" to the interviewer on Telemundo. Unless there's another superfight the interviewer was asking about, I'm pretty sure he meant Floyd vs Pac. That's why when I read the following the day after the interview that Schaeffer stated that he was "Misquoted", I thought to myself, "How do you misquote a video testimonial? Especially when it's preceded by the interviewer asking about the "Question everyone is asking about")? It was clear as day. But overall, I don't think a lot has been leaked as far as specifics of the fight. if anything, both parties should be happy with the anticipation that's building. For all we know, they can be throwin down some Scotch talking about how much money they're gonna be making lol.

I sure as hell don't believe it. Even in the Michigan papers that's the same sentiments. They all believe Arum is full of shit. And Pac still hasnt signed the contract. I believe Team Mayweather has no idea what the hell Arum is talking about. Arum is just leaking all these shit articles to websites so when Pac ens up fighting Cotto or Marg, Arum can turn around and say " see look Mayweather turned down the fight". Poll to come. Arum has made a career out of being disingenuous. People that take him seriously when he speaks on behalf of his fighters are gullible or delusional with their own agendas. We're talking about a man that was convicted of bribery to manipulate the rankings in favor of his fighters. Bob Arum is all about Bob Arum and he will lie, cheat, bribe, or anything else to make his fighters look good which in turn makes him look good. Like most promoters do but he is the worst. He even backed Antonio Margarito(who obviously cheated) and tried to claim he was being persecuted because he was Mexican. Not because he's in love with Margarito. He's in love with the money he can bring him.

You could be right, but being as both parties have somewhat mentioned small particulars of the fight, I don't see there being an actual court ordered gag order but more so a mutual agreement between Top Rank and Golden Boy. Oscar clearly stated in a Spanish interview that the fight was all about done. If there was an official gag order, I'm sure Oscar from the jump would've either said "No Comment" or there would be some sort of response or backlash instead of Schaeffer stating he was "Misquoted". I don't think people should look too much into the "Gag Order" as it seems more of an anchor to keep things in order and between the negotiators solely. It looks to be working considering people are still asking questions and anticipating. i thought oscar denied the quotes? the article i read said oscar has no connections whatsoever to the discussions so there was no way he could have know it was done or not. also, andre ward was on a radio show interview in a thread on this very site saying he was completely misquoted; by was it, ring magazine? i've seen so much made up shiit in the media with this fight, that i believe dlh when he denies the quotes. hes a pusssi who never fought in the streets and plays by the rules. if he wasnt the boss, basically i would label him as a yesman. one thing the gag order did do was keep freddys mouth shut.

based on what sort of information do you think a gag order cost big bucks? unless you think 10k is breaking the bank. it would be real easy. when you get a gag order, no details can be talked about. or if its a case of what can't be talked about in said gag order then---glove size, purse split, ring size, venue, and drug testing are not to be discussed to the media by either party. looks easy enough to me. this coming to me too easy or am i missing something? if you had an opportunity to get your hands on a combined purse of 100 million with a boatload more millions coming in from ppv and venue related items..........wouldn't it sound like great advice to drop 10k-50k to keep the details of said deal out of the media because of how it was treated in the media last time? seriously; arum, by the end of it will make more than 50 million from this fight and i'm probably low ballin here. i think they got rejected or they know the details they forwarded will get rejected and arum is doing a pre-emptive damage control. no way in hell floyd agreed to 50/50. everyone here knows hes all about 60/40. and why is there no mention of ost? thats what killed the last fight. if manny agreed to a real ost then it would have been front page news. You could be right, but being as both parties have somewhat mentioned small particulars of the fight, I don't see there being an actual court ordered gag order but more so a mutual agreement between Top Rank and Golden Boy. Oscar clearly stated in a Spanish interview that the fight was all about done. If there was an official gag order, I'm sure Oscar from the jump would've either said "No Comment" or there would be some sort of response or backlash instead of Schaeffer stating he was "Misquoted". I don't think people should look too much into the "Gag Order" as it seems more of an anchor to keep things in order and between the negotiators solely. It looks to be working considering people are still asking questions and anticipating.