Manny Pacquiao boxing 'skills' underrated?

Floyd has fought opponent like Judah who are just as fast as him. Floyd can still win fights because of his accuracy and defense. Pacquiao looks average when you neutralize his speed. Judah? Who has Judah beat? Manny beat Miguel Cotto. Miguel Cotto beat Zab Judah by TKO in the 11th. Doesn't make a difference though. That doesn't diminish Floyds skills. Just like JMM giving Pacquiao tough fights does not diminish Mannys skills. Without Speed both Manny and Floyd wouldn't be the fighters they are today.

If you take away Floyds speed..... Floyd has fought opponent like Judah who are just as fast as him. Floyd can still win fights because of his accuracy and defense. Pacquiao looks average when you neutralize his speed.

Yes by far. I'm not saying he is more technically sound than Mayweather or anything but people portray Pac as some barbarian that swings wildly until he drops the other guy. You watch that guy train and tell me he doesn't work on many, many different approaches and attacks and ways of avoiding punches after attacking. Based on what some people say, you would think Manny was taken straight out of a barbrawl competition and put into a ring or something...... Exactly!. Post with some thought into it. Good post man.

I'm soft yet you named yourself after a SNITCH...uhhh ok Money = Power.. With the right team.. you can get away with anything.

Been seeing countless threads/posts basically discrediting Mannys boxing 'skills'. Just wondering what BS thinks. Yes by far. I'm not saying he is more technically sound than Mayweather or anything but people portray Pac as some barbarian that swings wildly until he drops the other guy. You watch that guy train and tell me he doesn't work on many, many different approaches and attacks and ways of avoiding punches after attacking. Based on what some people say, you would think Manny was taken straight out of a barbrawl competition and put into a ring or something......

You ain't bad.. you soft. I'm soft yet you named yourself after a SNITCH...uhhh ok

People who say that Pacquiao has no boxing skills are clueless as you cant be an elite boxer without basic boxing skills. People who say that Pacquiao possesses great boxing skills are clueless, hes no pernell whitaker or SRL. Pacquiaos boxing skills have definately improved over time and he has a decent set of skills. In answer to the question his skills are underrated by some and overrated by others. Pacquiao was outboxed by JMM but they were still both very close fights. Plus theres no shame in that considering JMM is probably the second best counterpuncher in the business. Good post. And I believe Manny has improved since his fights with JMM. As you said though, JMM is one of the best in the business and he (and Morales) made pacquiao realize that he needed to improve and hone his skills.

Overrated because he doesn't have ATG skills. If you take away his speed, what's so great about him? Most of his power comes from his combos. Dude is a brawler with speed and he's sloppy. If you take away Floyds speed.....

What does that have to do with anything? And you still haven't replied to the topic.. Just want to get everyone's input without the hate. Overrated because he doesn't have ATG skills. If you take away his speed, what's so great about him? Most of his power comes from his combos. Dude is a brawler with speed and he's sloppy.

Duran > Pacquiao's lil' bitch ass. What does that have to do with anything? And you still haven't replied to the topic.. Just want to get everyone's input without the hate.

I think Pac is a great fighter. What his fans need to undertstand is that doesnt mean you're highly skilled. Shit I might get flack for this I dont even think Armstrong was highly skilled and hes a great fighter. Who do you consider highly skilled right now in boxing?

You can discredit anyones resume.. Duran > Pacquiao's lil' bitch ass.

Pac??? Skills??? Sheeeiiiit!!! http://www.mikesbaby.com/images/year3/smirk.jpg You ain't bad.. you soft.

How many slick fighters in their prime did Manny beat? Manny's resume is the most overrated resume in the last 20 years. People act like he beat all the great fighters in their prime and beat every single style. Manny fights the same style every time. Either the fighter is a one dimensional fighter, or he is weight drained, past prime, shot. etc. Clottley - B/C level fighter. Cotto - Past prime and was damaged. Hatton - Overrated and was damaged by Floyd. DLH - A 142 lbs DLH had no chance of beating a prime Manny and he was way past his prime. Morales - Beat his ass so bad that he made him cry and made excuses. He still doesn't give him credit for beating his ass. He beat Morales after Morales was schooled for 12 rounds and didn't win one single round. JMM - JMM made him look average and very sloppy after Roach kept talking about the new and improve Manny. If Floyd had this resume, would the same people be saying Floyd is top 10 because of his resume and skills like the Pactards say on here? You can discredit anyones resume..

Very underated...... Pac??? Skills??? Sheeeiiiit!!! http://www.mikesbaby.com/images/year3/smirk.jpg

The guy can box dudes. Trained by the best trainer in the world, Pac is the best fighter or boxer on the planet and people claim he cant box? I give up! But just being a pure boxer you leave it up to the judges to see if they can score correctly. Pac knows how to fight, along with his boxing ability. Manny is the best brawler in the world, he's not the best boxer in the world.

It's been this way for a while burnie.. you know this. I think Pac is a great fighter. What his fans need to undertstand is that doesnt mean you're highly skilled. Shit I might get flack for this I dont even think Armstrong was highly skilled and hes a great fighter.

There's a bunch of skilled boxers out there that haven't accomplished half of what Manny has. There are also a bunch of brawlers out there that haven't accomplished half of what Manny has. You seriously think a brawler can get through the resume Pacquiao has and move up several weight divisions? How many slick fighters in their prime did Manny beat? Manny's resume is the most overrated resume in the last 20 years. People act like he beat all the great fighters in their prime and beat every single style. Manny fights the same style every time. Either the fighter is a one dimensional fighter, or he is weight drained, past prime, shot. etc. Clottley - B/C level fighter. Cotto - Past prime and was damaged. Hatton - Overrated and was damaged by Floyd. DLH - A 142 lbs DLH had no chance of beating a prime Manny and he was way past his prime. Morales - Beat his ass so bad that he made him cry and made excuses. He still doesn't give him credit for beating his ass. He beat Morales after Morales was schooled for 12 rounds and didn't win one single round. JMM - JMM made him look average and very sloppy after Roach kept talking about the new and improve Manny. If Floyd had this resume, would the same people be saying Floyd is top 10 because of his resume and skills like the Pactards say on here?

What have I started. lmao. It's been this way for a while burnie.. you know this.

he's good, but he does get by by pure athleticism a lot. if u notice the way he fights, hes always off balanced. but he's so athletic he's capable of recovering, wich leads to a punch at a awkward angle. so his sloppiness turns into an advatage aganst those who come forward thinkin they can catch him. You nailed it.. You don't think it takes skill to hit their opponents with speed and power at crazy ass angles with multiple punch combos? You look at it as a weakness but thats how his fighting style has been since he started boxing. He can box while moving backwards, side to side, or off-balance, while hitting you with power and speed. He isn't your average brawler who needs to have the right footing before striking a punch. Think about it man. His style made DLH quit, Hatton sleep, Cotto run, Clottey hide. Made them look like amateurs.