Does anyone else worry about Pavlik?

dude should get over his confidence issues and find a real trainer beating jermain taylor made team pavlik think loew would be able to keep pavlik on that higher level but hopkins took a dump on that assumption pavlik right now is a limited fighter with a lot of power, hes only 28 so he can still change his style up doubt he was drinking during training at the pace this guy trains It's very selfish that his trainers haven't told him to get a better trainer. they are amateur coaches, not professional. But then again, I don't think another trainer could have that much of an impact, especially at this stage in his career.

hope everything is well with him I thought he looked OK EARLY in the Martinez fight but in the second half of the fight when Martinez just started to turn it up offensively with his quick Combos and consistent movement, Pavlik just had NO ANSWER!

I lost all my respect for him during the Martinez fight. I don't wish anything bad on the guy, but the dude would've quit if his trainer didn't force him to fight toward the end. I know he didn't have a cut man worth a shit, but quitting shouldn't even cross your mind when you are fighting in front of your fans like that. Look at Paul Williams. He fought Martinez being cut really bad. I don't know if it was bad as Pavlik's cuts. But he was cut pretty bad.

He definitely seems distracted. He could recover from it but it would take a huge step on his part. He would have to actually move away from Ohio, take up with a new trainer and get an injection of confidence that only that could provide. If he stays around his current people, he will not see any success at all at 168. The wheels are broken on his current vehicle. It is time for a new one. I will be interested in seeing how he handles 168. If what they say is true, he has finally outgrown middleweight so the move up may actually be good for him. He may not have outgrown it though and struggles now due to lack of discipline. If that is the case he will fall hard and fast at 168.

Not at all. If he really is doing this, he deserves to see his career fall apart. Crazy that the guy was riding high a couple years ago and is now on a steady plummet. I was really hoping Williams would get his hands on him, but Pavlik's move up has killed that. He's going nowhere fast at 168 or 175 imo anyway, let alone if he really is boozing.

dude should get over his confidence issues and find a real trainer beating jermain taylor made team pavlik think loew would be able to keep pavlik on that higher level but hopkins took a dump on that assumption pavlik right now is a limited fighter with a lot of power, hes only 28 so he can still change his style up doubt he was drinking during training at the pace this guy trains I don't know, old habits die hard and he had weight issues before the Martinez fight and spent a lot of his time in bars one of which caused a minor bar room scrap.

The executioner embarrassed him. When have you ever heard an elite prize fighter with a winning streak like Pavlik saying "I'm losing", "I can't win", "We have to stop the fight" etc...He did it against B-Hop and against Martinez. I've never seen or heard him like that. When Taylor knocked him down he just stood up and smiled going to his cornor saying "I'm OK, I'm alright". I think you're right about Kelly being a mentally weak fighter. It's a shame cause he was beginning to catch up with Martinez until the 2nd cut occurred. It's very hard to be mentally strong. I've got a perfect example in my avatar, but reaching that level is nearly impossible. You may just shrug of a loss after a fight, but a 12 round humiliation suddenly eats away your confidence. It's very sad. And then you have the mentally unstable ones (Zab Judah)............... :D

dude should get over his confidence issues and find a real trainer beating jermain taylor made team pavlik think loew would be able to keep pavlik on that higher level but hopkins took a dump on that assumption pavlik right now is a limited fighter with a lot of power, hes only 28 so he can still change his style up doubt he was drinking during training at the pace this guy trains

I have a feeling he is a mentally weak fighter. His confidence has probably been shattered. I hope he's doing well. after all...........Bernard Hopkins is not the end of the world. The executioner embarrassed him. When have you ever heard an elite prize fighter with a winning streak like Pavlik saying "I'm losing", "I can't win", "We have to stop the fight" etc...He did it against B-Hop and even more against Martinez. I've never seen or heard him like that. When Taylor knocked him down and everyone thought he would finish him off he just stood up and smiled going to his corner saying "I'm OK, I'm alright". I think you're right about Kelly being a mentally weak fighter. It's a shame cause he was beginning to catch up on Martinez until the 2nd cut occurred.

Whoever said boxing is 50% mental was on the money with that shit, because his frame of mind since losing to B-Hop has been less than stellar. Now on to the other 50% (physical) I heard right after the Martinez fight he blew up to 192 pounds within two weeks. Now if that's just hearsay then Kelly going off the deep end on drinking binges doesn't sound so far fetch.

Yeah I can see Kelly going off of the deep end, not as bad as Hatton though.

I have a feeling he is a mentally weak fighter. His confidence has probably been shattered. I hope he's doing well. after all...........Bernard Hopkins is not the end of the world.