why so much negativity in the recent news about floyd - pac fight?

It's realism, not negativity (not that a bit of cynicism isn't warranted in this case considering the history of these negotiations). Obviously some people aren't content to simply accept everything as truth just because it's been said.

this is what im been talking about... why the negativity??? The Flomos expecting the worst!! They still think Floyd will not accept the fight. They know their Guy(or Gay). They are ready with their excuses!!

Had Pac flat out refused the tests, then I would agree. Facts are facts though. Pac agreed to a test the day the fight is announced. Agreed to be tested 24 days prior to the bout. Then lastly, agreed to be tested directly after the fight in the dressing room. In addition to that, he was willing to give unlimited random urine tests. Just because he didnt wanna follow Floyd method of testing/head games, doesnt mean he had anything to hide. Mayweather doesnt make the rules for OST testing, pac is one who wanted a cutoff date, that is most suspicous request he could have made, he should have just refused the test from the very beginning when the contract was originally presented to him but he didnt he accepted and then changed his mind, we have video footage all over youtube of freddie saying they had no problem with OST testing, testing after the fight does nothing because you would have already have fought, it proves that you cheated, the purpose of the testing is to prevent any cheaters from actually cheating, that is the worst argument that people try to make, if your gonna cheat on a test at school your gonna get all the answers before the test right, not after

Why would GBP do that? Arum lied all throughout the first negotiations and they didn't say anything until the very end. Maybe they actually want to get the fight done? Maybe they understand that Arum is a promoter who lies for the gullible fans and thus, they don't take that into account? They'll speak when it's time. Or, you can tune in to your daily Arum news and get all the conflicting crap you feel like. Personally, being unable to shut your mouth and handle your business behind closed doors is a sign of diva-ness. Arum = Fox News :rofl: Just kidding!

Its performance enhancement drugs that he would be taking not steriods, your right that made pacquaio look bad but only after he refused the testing, do you agree with that if pacman would have taken the tests originally and proved that he has not been taking anything it would have made all the things that he has done look even that more spectacular knowing that he is all natural, if he would have agreed the first time it would not have been blown up so much Had Pac flat out refused the tests, then I would agree. Facts are facts though. Pac agreed to a test the day the fight is announced. Agreed to be tested 24 days prior to the bout. Then lastly, agreed to be tested directly after the fight in the dressing room. In addition to that, he was willing to give unlimited random urine tests. Just because he didnt wanna follow Floyd method of testing/head games, doesnt mean he had anything to hide.

And what do u call accusing someone of being on Steroids with no proof? LOL. Its performance enhancement drugs that he would be taking not steriods, your right that made pacquaio look bad but only after he refused the testing, do you agree with that if pacman would have taken the tests originally and proved that he has not been taking anything it would have made all the things that he has done look even that more spectacular knowing that he is all natural, if he would have agreed the first time it would not have been blown up so much

Why the games though? Why play head games and run the risk of Bob and Pac getting fed up and moving on to the next challenger? If Floyd wants to fight, he should just say so and if all went well during the negotiations (as Bob claims), then Floyd should just sign the contract. Its antics like this that are gonna kill this fight. It not antics its tactics, everything is about having the upper hand, its no different in any competition, if team pac are so deadset on making another fight then that means they are not serious about the mayweather fight, none of his options need five months to promote except mayweather, maybe they should focus on getting margacheato a license before making him the second option, how the hell are they gonna sell a pacquaio cotto II

If this is the case, and Arum is indeed lying, all GBP has to do is put out a statement refuting what Arum has said. Case closed. No need to act like this is some secret military operation. Its a fuking boxing match for christ sakes. Why would GBP do that? Arum lied all throughout the first negotiations and they didn't say anything until the very end. Maybe they actually want to get the fight done? Maybe they understand that Arum is a promoter who lies for the gullible fans and thus, they don't take that into account? They'll speak when it's time. Or, you can tune in to your daily Arum news and get all the conflicting crap you feel like. Personally, being unable to shut your mouth and handle your business behind closed doors is a sign of diva-ness.

The gag order was a mutual thing and it seems only one of them is honoring the agreement. That's not being a diva. Maybe, just maybe, the other side hasn't agreed? Let's face it, Arum has lied several times with regards to this particular negotiation, not including the gag order. If this is the case, and Arum is indeed lying, all GBP has to do is put out a statement refuting what Arum has said. Case closed. No need to act like this is some secret military operation. Its a fuking boxing match for christ sakes.

Team pac obviously have a plan to make mayweather look bad, we should both agree on that, mayweather is to smart, if there is any kind of proposal im sure he would have his lawyers review the terms and he will present a proper response not a rushed one, we just saw this happen with mayweather mosley so calm down And what do u call accusing someone of being on Steroids with no proof? LOL.

My understanding is that it was a mutual thing. I still dont see why GBP and Floyd are being such diva's. If both sides came to an agreement as Bob claims, then give us paying fans an update. I feel we're more than entitled to know what's the latest. Team pac obviously have a plan to make mayweather look bad, we should both agree on that, mayweather is to smart, if there is any kind of proposal im sure he would have his lawyers review the terms and he will present a proper response not a rushed one, we just saw this happen with mayweather mosley so calm down

My understanding is that it was a mutual thing. I still dont see why GBP and Floyd are being such diva's. If both sides came to an agreement as Bob claims, then give us paying fans an update. I feel we're more than entitled to know what's the latest. The gag order was a mutual thing and it seems only one of them is honoring the agreement. That's not being a diva. Maybe, just maybe, the other side hasn't agreed? Let's face it, Arum has lied several times with regards to this particular negotiation, not including the gag order.

Yeah i agree with you gbp can come out and do that, but im pretty sure $ May instructed them not do so, he wants team pac to sweat they are already in a frenzy, arum and roach keep saying there are tired of these negotiations and that they are fed up but gbp says no comment and mayweather says im on vacation im not thinking about puchiuao as he calls him, they are breaking down pacs whole team mentally Why the games though? Why play head games and run the risk of Bob and Pac getting fed up and moving on to the next challenger? If Floyd wants to fight, he should just say so and if all went well during the negotiations (as Bob claims), then Floyd should just sign the contract. Its antics like this that are gonna kill this fight.

Yeah, Bob does speak freely about it. He's also the same guy who asked for the gag order. My understanding is that it was a mutual thing. I still dont see why GBP and Floyd are being such diva's. If both sides came to an agreement as Bob claims, then give us paying fans an update. I feel we're more than entitled to know what's the latest.

If that's the case, then all GBP has to do is come out and refute what Arum has stated. What's with this secrecy crap? Yeah i agree with you gbp can come out and do that, but im pretty sure $ May instructed them not do so, he wants team pac to sweat they are already in a frenzy, arum and roach keep saying there are tired of these negotiations and that they are fed up but gbp says no comment and mayweather says im on vacation im not thinking about puchiuao as he calls him, they are breaking down pacs whole team mentally

I just dont understand this whole gag order crap. Negotiations are half of the hype. Publicize it. Let the fans know what's going on in order to keep them interested. Pac speaks freely about it. Bob speaks freely about it. Why does Floyd need to be such a princess? Yeah, Bob does speak freely about it. He's also the same guy who asked for the gag order.

Everyone is excited about the fight but everyone on here knows that Arum is a damn liar, just like everybody says mayweather is accusing pacman of steriods without proof, we are saying bob arum is lying because there is no proof that both sides have agreed to anything, its up to arum to prove there is an agreement because GBP has said no comment and the mayweathers are not talking, so the only person talking needs to show us proof If that's the case, then all GBP has to do is come out and refute what Arum has stated. What's with this secrecy crap?

I just dont understand this whole gag order crap. Negotiations are half of the hype. Publicize it. Let the fans know what's going on in order to keep them interested. Pac speaks freely about it. Bob speaks freely about it. Why does Floyd need to be such a princess?

Everyone is excited about the fight but everyone on here knows that Arum is a damn liar, just like everybody says mayweather is accusing pacman of steriods without proof, we are saying bob arum is lying because there is no proof that both sides have agreed to anything, its up to arum to prove there is an agreement because GBP has said no comment and the mayweathers are not talking, so the only person talking needs to show us proof

damn... i got excited about that last news... that GBP - ARUM - Pac already agreed into terms.... and the only thing missing is floyd nod im just wondering why the some fans, specifically , the flomos, are like this is a bad news???? it is really wierd.... isnt it??? Definitely weird. You'd think that they are Floyd's sons and brothers they're curious about the OST deal and purse split. Definitely weird. Not even Satan would disapprove a 50/50 split. Flomos want 60 for the boring boxer. They don't mind getting ripped off. Plus level playing field levelers such as this no cut-off OST thing, in which threads I intend to resurrect when Floyd faces Hatton. Not only weird, but embarrassing.