Objectivity: My take on Manny Pacquiao versus Floyd Mayweather!

I want to know the type of poster I am. I am a respond/retaliate addict lol. You tell me Pac is a 7 division champion, I'll call him a 7 division titlist. You tell me Floyd is a coward, you can read this: On being called scared, a bum, or coward by fans : MARCUS RHODE: It doesn’t bother me because the simple fact is half these guys have never put the leather on, they have never been hit, never been nothing. It doesn’t bother me because all they can do is run their mouth because if they could get in the ring they would have gotten in there... You tell me Pac is on roids, I say prove it. I defend Floyd from Pactards, and put accused Flomos in their place also. Here is my scoop on two great fighters. I am a fan of Pac. I'm a fan of Floyd. When Pac fought Ledwaba, he truly beat the tar out of him. I became a fan. The suspect Hussein fight showed me that the old PAc was dead as he did get up before 10(despite delay). When Floyd beat Manfredy, I became a fan. These guys were not my favorites from day 1. Not like Sugar Leonard, and Ali, Jones, Duran, Tyson, Sanchez, Hamed and many more. They both grew on me. There are fights where you find out about a guy. Pac's was against Marquez. Floyd's was against Chico. Funny thing is I knew Floyd was tough when he beat Augustus. Ask me why I don't know. Pac almost took JMM out, and JMM came back, and lumped Pac up. Pac kept pushing. I thought Pac won. Augustus was hitting Floyd, busting his nose and lip. Both showed me ring toughness in these fights. It just hoit me bam, they can fight. Here is what I know about both fighters. I have seen PAc fight flat footed, as I have Floyd. I have not seen anyone back Pac up flat footed with two fists, and PAc be effective, and I've seen Floyd backed up and be effective. Who is faster between the two? I say Floyd. Who is stronger, I say Floyd. Who has gotten better...PAc tremendously. Who has the better chin? Floyd. I give Floyd almost yeverything over Pac in the 'everthing department'. Will Pac be a tough out for Floyd though? Of course. Who has more heart? They have to show me. Floyd is undefeated, so if a gun was to my head, and I was forced to answer, I'd say Floyd. Right now PAc can become a legend with a win. Floyd will get props if he wins, but until we see the fight and see Floyd win and, how he wins...he will not get the props that he should get, if PAc were to beat Floyd. The one thing I know is that I've seen many a favorite fighter go in favored, and not come out victorious. We judge fighters too fast today. One loss, and it's the end. Cotto is proof that you can lose...come back, and still be adored by fans. You either love Pac and Floyd or you hate them. One thing is I respect both. If you ever see me dissing Pac, don't worry Pac fans, I'm responding to a Pactard. Flomos, I'm not on your side either, but you are backing the better fighter imo until he loses. Right now I have Floyd ko in 11. If the fight is made, I'll let you all know how it goes down.

Comments (20)

floyd stops manny by round 8----deal with it----manny won't land anything significant on floyd, that i promise you all, and manny will be hurt early by floyd, that i also promise----

15y ago

vercingetorix3

Floyd by KO? Naaaah. Floyd by tactical yet boring decision? Yaaaah.

15y ago

Frank_Ducketts

Marquez threw less punches then floyd and tore Manny a new ass hole. Floyd will out box Pac today, tomorrow, next week, next month, next year. Styles make fights and a body shot is whats going to floor Manny..This could happen also.........

15y ago

PrinceCharlez

floyd has no combination punching, no power, no killer instinct which pac has and is top notch! Marquez threw less punches then floyd and tore Manny a new ass hole. Floyd will out box Pac today, tomorrow, next week, next month, next year. Styles make fights and a body shot is whats going to floor Manny..

15y ago

Frank_Ducketts

I remember that exact same hesitancy to believe that Floyd would stop Hatton. The rationale was that if the brutal puncher Kostya Tszyu couldn't stop or deter Hatton, how would Floyd do that?Yeah, that type of rationale never works lol... Now it's "Pac took Cotto's best, so he can take Floyd's' as if Cotto hits harder than Floyd lol...

15y ago

Frank_Ducketts

15y ago

champ_kw

The point is we wont know until they get in the ring. I think Manny has the power to knock out just about anyone at 147, and Floyd was wobbled in the Mosley fight. I just think if it goes past 5 without Mayweather significantly hurt, he'll adjust to Manny and beat him down.[/QUOTE It's funny to keep hearing people harp on him being wobbled by Shane. This guys career spans over a decade and one punch is being used as the standard bearer that there's a chance he may get knocked out. Shane has one of the better ko % in his wins in boxing and he couldn't drop Floyd. I'm not saying Floyd has granite for a chin, but the notion that a guy that hasn't been legitimatly dropped his entire career is subseptible to being ko'd within 5 is laughable.

15y ago

johnm_is

Very rue!! Rut roh, Raggy!

15y ago

Scratch2win28

imo pac has more 'fan friendly' offense, not better. Very true!

15y ago

Scratch2win28

imo pac has more 'fan friendly' offense, not better.Very rue!!

15y ago

JBell11

I can say this. If PAc throws a lot of punches at Floyd...Floyd ain't going to react like Clottey and cover up. To beat a man who throws a lot of shots, you match him punch for punch, and you pressure him backwards. Eric Morales did this to Pac and won... I agree, Floyd will probably pick Pac apart. Cotto and Clottey with decent placement of punches damaged Pac. Although Floyd is economical with his punches they are effective. I do believe Pac has "improved" over time however one noticeable constant is his defense. Pac still gets hit (frequently)

15y ago

Frank_Ducketts

15y ago

Frank_Ducketts

What up Frank, I understand your perspective, but it's all relative. So, Pac couldn't land a high percentage of shots. He still clearly won because of sheer volume. Clottey simlpy didn't throw enough punches either. The game plan was to swarm Clottey and beat him to the punch, which he succeeded. % connect can be usefule in determing how effective your offense can be. Volume would be another driver of effective offense. I missspoke when I said that a good offense is ONLY determined by % landed, but it is important to understand that if I hit you with three punches and landed all three...it's still impressive (Mayweather, Clottey) Consider this, statiscally Clottey % connect was generally greater than Pac!!! Analysis This fight could potentially been different. Notice the amount of damage Pac took after the fight as opose to Clottey. LaterI see your point. Clottey threw 5 punches and chipped PAc up a bit lol...

15y ago

Webber676

Nice post bro. But let me ask you? are you American? I think predictions here will go all the way to which fighter we like the most. Filipinos will say Pac, American will say Floyd. The fact is that this is a very close fight. I'm not either American or Filipino (I'm Dominican) but I'm going with Pac in this one. As good as Floyd is, I don't see him overcoming, Pacquiao work rate, stamina, Punching Power, angles and killing instinct. If you still doubt Pacquiao power ask Miguel Cotto, the guy is a mule, go back and review his slug fest with Colombian hard hitting Ricardo Torres and you will see why. In that fight Torres hit Cotto with so many clean power punches and never dropped him (except for a push) but when he fought Pacman he when to the canvas twice with punches that were not the hardest from Pacquiao. Expect Floyd to be hit like never before and his skin at 33 wont hold. Pac will be busted many times but he is just used to that and Floyd only dispatch one or to punches at a time and this is not going to get the job dont against Pacquiao. Ultimately the southpaw stance of Pacquiao with be only extra trouble. Im going with Pac by late KO or TKO.

15y ago

maguirre

Real objective post for this ts. Except that Floyd disagrees. Otherwise, this fight would have been made smoothly. OST is unnecessary and 50/50 purse split. _________ This fight could go either way. That's what makes it huge. But I lean more on Mayweather throwing Pac off balance. Pac have been nearly dropped in many of his fights. May could possibly finish Pac. If Pac can't do it in the early rounds to finish Floyd, he's in trouble. That's what many people say. But the opposite might happen. Floyd's punches are accurate. It remains to be seen how Pac could handle them. That will be the basis for this fight, for me, at least.

15y ago

The_Big_Dunn

What up Frank, I understand your perspective, but it's all relative. So, Pac couldn't land a high percentage of shots. He still clearly won because of sheer volume. Clottey simlpy didn't throw enough punches either. The game plan was to swarm Clottey and beat him to the punch, which he succeeded. % connect can be usefule in determing how effective your offense can be. Volume would be another driver of effective offense. I missspoke when I said that a good offense is ONLY determined by % landed, but it is important to understand that if I hit you with three punches and landed all three...it's still impressive (Mayweather, Clottey) Consider this, statiscally Clottey % connect was generally greater than Pac!!! Analysis This fight could potentially been different. Notice the amount of damage Pac took after the fight as opose to Clottey. Later Exactly. Harold letterman always says "effective aggression". Its hard to tell if manny's aggression caused clottey to cover up or he just went in for a payday and didn't throw.

15y ago

JBell11

All fighters go in against Clottey knowing they aren't going to land 30 out of 40 shots. All you can do is try to find openings, land on the arms, elbows...wherever you can land, and get that fight out of the way, and go to the next fight. PAc did that with a low connect percentage. It wasn't like Pac was missing. Pac was landing, he just wasn't landing visibly on the head or jaw with multiple shots-but Pac was landing some of those shots and some good body shots. What up Frank, I understand your perspective, but it's all relative. So, Pac couldn't land a high percentage of shots. He still clearly won because of sheer volume. Clottey simlpy didn't throw enough punches either. The game plan was to swarm Clottey and beat him to the punch, which he succeeded. % connect can be usefule in determing how effective your offense can be. Volume would be another driver of effective offense. I missspoke when I said that a good offense is ONLY determined by % landed, but it is important to understand that if I hit you with three punches and landed all three...it's still impressive (Mayweather, Clottey) Consider this, statiscally Clottey % connect was generally greater than Pac!!! Analysis This fight could potentially been different. Notice the amount of damage Pac took after the fight as opose to Clottey. Later

15y ago

Frank_Ducketts

Objectivity: Floyd is scared to lose his 0, so he fights fighter 2 division south of his division and old past prime senior citizen.On being called scared, a bum, or coward by fans : MARCUS RHODE: It doesn’t bother me because the simple fact is half these guys have never put the leather on, they have never been hit, never been nothing. It doesn’t bother me because all they can do is run their mouth because if they could get in the ring they would have gotten in there...

15y ago

Vegan101

Objectivity: Floyd is scared to lose his 0, so he fights fighter 2 division south of his division and old past prime senior citizen.

15y ago

Frank_Ducketts

i disagree..i love seeing pac throw a bunch of punches and all that but i think the way mayweather mixes his offence and defence is genius.so yeah pac offence is more fan friendly but am going with floyd on this one. hope the fight is made regardless. peaceThat PActard doesn't care what you think lol... Good post.

15y ago