we always set higher standards on floyd.just wanna remind you guys.

The way I see it, all Floyd needs to do is beat Pacquiao and Williams. That'll not only prove that he can beat top level opposition in their prime, but it'll also make up for that ridiculous retirement.

is this one of those 'poor floyd, he doesn't get his props' thread? as much as it is "that" type of thread......you can't deny he is held to a higher standard than the rest. Shouldn't the FOTD be held to the highest standard??

this thread is what happens when you get a ignorant 17 year old who barely started watching boxing. highest standard? facing a 9 loss baldomir & a 6 loss gatti was high standards? how about facing career 140 pounder in hatton & a career featherweight in marquez at welterweight? GTFO with your high standards. ever since floyd left 135 he's been ducking threatening opposition. he didnt fight the top guys at 140 in hatton, cotto, & tsyzu. same thing at 147. his fans want to think baldomir & judah where better than shane, margarito, cotto, & paul williams. it took the pac negotiations to crumble & a 7.0 earthquake & berto's family dying in order for floyd to face a 39 year old 1 year & 5 month inactive shane mosley. how old are you? yeah im 18. but look at my threads, its more objective, fair and has a lot more views than yours. be a real fan man. dont bring so much hate. im a filipino but i have respect for floyd and as so to other fighters. this It is because Floyd himself made it that way by saying he is the bottom line best of all time. If this is the case, you need to fight every guy out there, beat them senseless, and fight like 10 times a year. Sounds outrageous but SRR fought like every month, why can't Floyd? If you claim to be God's gift to boxing, then you set yourself up for higher expectations. If the end result is not what you wanted, then you should have taken a different approach to marketing yourself........every action has a reaction...causality is a b*tch is a better answer.

fans value their opinions too much, so much that they start to try and convince other people to agree with them and believe what they believe like Mayweather or not, Mayweather's legacy is already cemented, if he fights and beat Pacman then I guess that would validate what most people already knew deep down inside but refuse to give him his credit publicly because they don't like him personally but the hate won't stop, people will jump on the next fighters bandwagon and say this or that fighter can beat Mayweather Mayweather won't be appreciated until his career is over and he is retired then people will look back and appreciate him a lot more, people enjoy watching you rise to the top but they also enjoy seeing you fall after you have reached the top Realest talk of 2010.

Damn.. floyd fans in here got more courage than floyd does. :lol1:

gatti was seen as a threat? by who hbo who was producing the fight? big fukking suprise. did vegas odds think so too? i think not. Dont confuse hbo propaganda with what the majority of the boxing world thinks. Nobody thought baldomir or gatti had a chance to beat floyd. the vegas odds prove this. marquez called out floyd? so did paul williams & margarito. It seems floyd has only ears for fighters below his division. selective hearing much? It seems as if everybody declines floyd yet he is the cash cow? shane declined floyd? cotto declined floyd? wait you must be talking about that larry merchant interview after the vargas fight. Did you confuse that interview as actual fight negotiation offer from floyd mayweather jr.? show me a link of a hard offer from team mayweather that team cotto & shane denied. show me the link where team mayweather offered a fight purse, fight venue, fight date, & fight weight to cotto & shane that they refused. Just because you call somebody out in a interview after just finishing your most recent fight doesnt equal fight negotiations that other fighters declined. Pac sign the contract? Sure, only if floyd didnt ask for a test never done before in the history of professional prize fighting against a lower weight fighter who he deemed as easy work & overrated. There's a reason why floyd has a universal reputation as a scared cherry picking ducker who is afraid of losing his undefeated record. YOU NEED TO STOP MAKING SHIT UP. Dude, I could say the same for Cotto/Pac. The MINUTE that I heard about this fight, my first thought was disappointment in Pac and "mismatch". A blind man could've seen it So, siting Vegas Odds to me, doesn't mean much. Lots of people thought that Cotto had a great chance, I didnt. It just so happens that some see it and some don't. To be honest though, I didn't feel they were threats, but some did, as u can see in the article. I never thought Mosley was a threat either, even at his best. He's just far to limited against good boxers. He just came off almost a 2 yr layoff and fought the #2P4P guy. Let me ask your opinion. Do u truly believe that Margarito or Paul Williams beats FMJ? Also, he only has ears for guys below his division? He has fought exactly one fighter that was smaller than him. PERIOD. Ricky Hatton while fighting at 140, was not smaller than FMJ. Why are u acting like he fights a lot of smaller fighters, when the fact is that Pac has been the bigger fighter in MANY more of his fights than FMJ is. In fact, in almost all of his fights over 130, he has been the smalller man beating bigger guys. Selective hearing? Why aren't u calling Pac on that one as well? Mosley, after beating Margarito was seen as the much more dangerous fighter. He called out Pac and yet, Pac only heard Cotto. Oh, that's right! His trainer already answered that one for us, didn't he? Tell me how u go any futher, when each fighter(or their rep) PUBLICLY stated that they didn't want the fight? Don't you have to have 2 fighters agreeing to fight and to start negotiations, b4 u get into purse, venue and weight? That's like saying that Mosley didn't really want to fight Pac, because he didn't give a venue or fight date. Wasn't talking about Pac signing a contract. Was referring to how he AGREED to OSDT(which his trainer confirmed). Then the story changed over and over and over. It was ONE request(all be it a different one).Floyd went along with Pac's (out of the ordinary request). Why aren't you calling Pac a duck for going back on his word and then having the lies flowing freely from his camp? I know some people that think that way, but "UNIVERSALLY" is a huge stretch, don't u think?

They also say Pac's legacy wont be hurt should he lose 2 Floyd, lolwell, i'll tell you this---after floyd dominates manny, those questions people have about who can beat floyd will come to an end------manny isn't the guy to do it-----floyd is toying with manny right now----he knows the easiest thing about this whole ordeal is the fight itself, floyd's not worried about the fight----he damn sure wasn't worried about the mosley fight---he wants an even playing field-----that's all---manny fans don't---they want him to use----even if manny isn't using, his fans know that a steroid manny pac fights harder, still loses, but puts up a better fight----and i do believe manny is on something-----and him loseing to floyd is worst for him than his fans coz of all of the shit talk floyd will do to him, and then going in there to totally killing that kid---i can't wait---- oh, and shogunn-----take bigsby's balls out of your mouth----i don't care if you want to put your tongue up his ass and agree with him, but you're sucking his balls 2 much---at least play with his clit first---you know he has a dick growing out of his vagina, with 2 balls----but those balls are for makivelli, the dick is for paulf and cupocity303 to share, and the clit can be for you----clayton, you're on lucky bastard-----have fun man----

How about Floyd just TRIES for a knockout ONCE instead of taking it if it comes? Would that be so hard to do?

what a stupid son of a bitch you are. floyd was p4p #2 even before he fought jmm. you dont know shit, stop pretending :lol1: Show me Floyd on the P4P list before he fought JMM. I'll wait...

when has a p4p king retired and returned???floyds earned his spot beating jmm-p4p#2 and mosley p4p#3 back to back..now hes after manny to take his thrown back..the mans fighting all p4p fighters whats your complaint what a stupid son of a bitch you are. floyd was p4p #2 even before he fought jmm. you dont know shit, stop pretending :lol1:

this pbftxr mak flame war reminds me of jamie foxx & doug williams: i dont need to tell you who plays doug williams do i? :dance: its sad cuz the doug williams in this thread thinks he's jamie foxx

Only a straight man like me would know for sure but homos like you will always have a hard time. That’s the reason why you gays are always misunderstood. You're not even trying to make sense anymore are you? I might be a fan of boxing and a fan of Mayweather, but I don't spend time thinking about Mayweather and Ellerbe’s personal relationship, that kind of shit is gay. But don't worry, I’m sure you'll find a boyfriend soon and won’t have homoerotic fantasies about boxers and their managers.

and clearly so do you, i can't imagine a straight man being so sure of another man's sexuallity, are you a scorned lover? don't worry one day he will take you back. Only a straight man like me would know for sure but homos like you will always have a hard time. That’s the reason why you gays are always misunderstood.

it's like the never ending story M.I.C. with floyd isn't it? i'm just glad we see past the nonsenseThey also say Pac's legacy wont be hurt should he lose 2 Floyd, lol

It's not a fantasy, Floyd is gay just ask Ellerbe he knows the story. and clearly so do you, i can't imagine a straight man being so sure of another man's sexuallity, are you a scorned lover? don't worry one day he will take you back.

very intelligent post, shut us all up. I wonder why so many pactards are always calling mayweather gay, it sounds like it's a secret fantasy they long to see come true. It's not a fantasy, Floyd is gay just ask Ellerbe he knows the story.

Remember flomos, boxing historians will never put a gay boxer as an ATG. Sorry but it's the truth that you need to know. :usa2: very intelligent post, shut us all up. I wonder why so many pactards are always calling mayweather gay, it sounds like it's a secret fantasy they long to see come true.

Mayweather needs to move up and beat Wlad and Vitali by KO to be consider an all time great. Pacquiao is already in the top 3.:nonono: I want to know the truely great fighters that were pushed below Pac on some of these guys lists, and how they justify it.

And at the same time they are sayimg Floyd needs to fight this guy or that guy they say Manny's legacy is already cemented, he can retire now as an ATG! LMAO!! it's like the never ending story M.I.C. with floyd isn't it? i'm just glad we see past the nonsense--- Remember flomos, boxing historians will never put a gay boxer as an ATG. Sorry but it's the truth that you need to know. :usa2:

And at the same time they are sayimg Floyd needs to fight this guy or that guy they say Manny's legacy is already cemented, he can retire now as an ATG! LMAO!! it's like the never ending story M.I.C. with floyd isn't it? i'm just glad we see past the nonsense---