Regarding Victor Conte's So Called "Suspicions"

Ah, sorry...wrong one....kindly give me the link on that conversation? Here is the full conversation: Me : Good point. But that case is not related to pacquaio. But Roy Jones put on 20ib Do you think he was using PED's? IMDAZED: We know he was. Just like we know Evander was. Man, a lot of people are. Your first post is a headscratcher. You're saying no one can ask Manny to take the tests? How ass backwards is that? Me: They can't ask him based on mere unsubstantiated "suspicion". How is that backwards? IMDAZED: Why can't they ask him to take a test based on a "suspicion?" The NSAC does it for no reason! That's NONSENSE, what you're saying. Me: Those are standard tests. Pacquaio has to follow them. IMDAZED: Yes and on what basis are they given? Me: to detect banned substances. IMDAZED: On what BASIS? Me: To prove that you are not taking illegal substances. IMDAZED: What suspicion do they base this on? Me: PED's....... IMDAZED: That's NOT a suspicion. See the hole you're digging? With what reasoning do they test athletes? Me: gaining an unfair advantage? IMDAZED: And what does the NSAC have to substantiate this suspicion of an unfair advantage? Me: thread ended. :D

I've read your post, but i want you to focus on the conversation between me and "IMDAZED". Continue reading through till you reach the end. He asks me questions and I answer them. Ah, sorry...wrong one....kindly give me the link on that conversation?

The truth is that Conte just want in on the A-Side stuff. Well he back stabbed many athletes.

The truth is that Conte just want in on the A-Side stuff.

Are you referring to the argument about 20 lbs difference in getting heavier ASAP? I hardly call that as an "evidence" if at all! Evidence is a semantical issue. Much like a simple cough.... • a symptom of a common cold/ches congestion or • could be a major immune system diseases such as AIDS And so what we need to understand is that every being is different. Our system cannot be "generalized", much so with the other factors such as emotions and our psyche. All of these make up a being and how he lives his life. His attributes, demeanor, training and culture. If everyone is the same, then getting a "specimen" and putting them in a lab with all the same conditions would amount to the same results right? NOPE, not with people. A race (even a stereotyped black athlete) with a great coaching/training coaches, great attitude, work ethics cannot guarantee a Championship pedigree. And so the semantical issues of what is an EVIDENCE is largely a subjective issue here. No one can really provide a "clout" or "doubt" legitimate enough to implicate or force a testing to validate Pacquiao as a clean fighter. Much like accusing the President of the United States of RAPE...would there be enough evidence to go through the preliminary hearings before ending up in a real court case AND impeachment due to it? NOPE. An accusation is just that...an accusation until proven guilty or at least have a reference point to begin with. A "suspicion" is of a lesser degree because it is purely speculative. There's not much weight in all of these and therefore not fair for Pacquiao to be put on a drug testing ordeal. (or the President to be put on a court due to some complaints). Because if Pacquiao is "clean"...then what? Also akin to the NFL in requesting a "instant replay" to overturn a field call, but if the field call is right, then the team requesting the replay loses a timeout. There should be accountability and counter charges against false accusations. I've read your post, but i want you to focus on the conversation between me and "IMDAZED". Continue reading through till you reach the end. He asks me questions and I answer them.

If you continue reading from page 10 you will see why my argument was flawed in the first place. Tell me what you think about the responses on that page. Are you referring to the argument about 20 lbs difference in getting heavier ASAP? I hardly call that as an "evidence" if at all! Evidence is a semantical issue. Much like a simple cough.... • a symptom of a common cold/ches congestion or • could be a major immune system diseases such as AIDS And so what we need to understand is that every being is different. Our system cannot be "generalized", much so with the other factors such as emotions and our psyche. All of these make up a being and how he lives his life. His attributes, demeanor, training and culture. If everyone is the same, then getting a "specimen" and putting them in a lab with all the same conditions would amount to the same results right? NOPE, not with people. A race (even a stereotyped black athlete) with a great coaching/training coaches, great attitude, work ethics cannot guarantee a Championship pedigree. And so the semantical issues of what is an EVIDENCE is largely a subjective issue here. No one can really provide a "clout" or "doubt" legitimate enough to implicate or force a testing to validate Pacquiao as a clean fighter. Much like accusing the President of the United States of RAPE...would there be enough evidence to go through the preliminary hearings before ending up in a real court case AND impeachment due to it? NOPE. An accusation is just that...an accusation until proven guilty or at least have a reference point to begin with. A "suspicion" is of a lesser degree because it is purely speculative. There's not much weight in all of these and therefore not fair for Pacquiao to be put on a drug testing ordeal. (or the President to be put on a court due to some complaints). Because if Pacquiao is "clean"...then what? Also akin to the NFL in requesting a "instant replay" to overturn a field call, but if the field call is right, then the team requesting the replay loses a timeout. There should be accountability and counter charges against false accusations.

I just repped you awhile ago and now can't rep you just yet on this thread....BRAVO in many points of your arguments. The thing is they can be as "suspicious" as they want but until they have the evidence (as you have pointed out), it remains as an ungrounded allegation. Pacquiao is not obligated to be subjected to test. That is Mayweather's issue not Pac's. And to see that the Mayweathers have dragged this supposed MEGA FIGHT into a fight outside the ring shows their intention to break him down. Just not in the ring. If you continue reading from page 10 you will see why my argument was flawed in the first place. Tell me what you think about the responses on that page.

*Thread ended* click on page 10 and continue reading for explanation. I just repped you awhile ago and now can't rep you just yet on this thread....BRAVO in many points of your arguments. The thing is they can be as "suspicious" as they want but until they have the evidence (as you have pointed out), it remains as an ungrounded allegation. Pacquiao is not obligated to be subjected to test. That is Mayweather's issue not Pac's. And to see that the Mayweathers have dragged this supposed MEGA FIGHT into a fight outside the ring shows their intention to break him down. Just not in the ring.

I have no problems but if there ever was one its you Stop stalking me on every thread I make. Sort out your obsession.

Go away you troll I don't need you to criticise me. Worry about your own problems. I have no problems but if there ever was one its you

Brilliant!!! LOL!!! Well it depends what motive he has.

If anything Pac should propse a more complex and far reaching system. The likely reason that Mayweather has proposed the current set up is because he already has figured out how to be on the juice and beat his own program. This way everything is set up the way he wants it and he is free to cheat meanwhile Pacquiao will be forced to play by the rules. Brilliant!!! LOL!!!

http://www.theboxingtruth.com/forums/index.php?/topic/57-physical-evolution-of-manny-pacquiao/page__view__findpost__p__278 thanks I'll read it later on....

http://www.theboxingtruth.com/forums/index.php?/topic/57-physical-evolution-of-manny-pacquiao/page__view__findpost__p__278 thanks I'll read it later on.

http://www.theboxingtruth.com/forums/index.php?/topic/57-physical-evolution-of-manny-pacquiao/page__view__findpost__p__278

Morons still tryna bullshit about this.. Evolution of Manny.. read this.. common sense ppl http://www.theboxingtruth.com/forums/index.php?/topic/57-physical-evolution-of-manny-pacquiao/?

actually i can just as easily megaupload it. send me a pm anyway because im not on much here. too many trolls. Ok I'll PM you.

actually i can just as easily megaupload it. send me a pm anyway because im not on much here. too many trolls.

sorry for the delay. look, they took the vid down again for infringement and the guy's channel is off my profile. if you want, send me an email addy and i'll send the video as i ripped it knowing it would get taken down again.

From that Slickfox guy. He always hangs onto me like a parasitic leech and stalks me on every thread. I don't know what it is. Maybe he's got something personal against me. My ideology perhaps?