Chavez Jr, under Roach, should make a really good career.

havent seen anything impressive about this kid. I'm sure he's had the best training and coaching in the world because of his dad, but being an elite boxer comes from within. You need to be blessed with talent. I believe he's blessed with talent, but the training and coaching? It's the exact opposite. He's had the worst, untill now, with Roach. He was training like his father did, spar everyday and then drink beer and bullshit. Now that he's with Roach, I believe he's gonna start getting serious. All that time was'nt waisted, but undeveloped.

"Not expecting much" "Got a lot to learn" "Eventually....." Well that fact of the matter is that the kid, solely because of his name, is now rated #1 by the WBC. How long exactly will he be able to hold that ranking without fighting someone with a pulse? You can't have it both ways. He doesn't have 5 more fights or 3 more years to find out if he is ready for someone who actually knows how to box. The first time he gets in the ring with a real top-5 fighter at any weight he is going to get bludgeoned. I did'nt say I agreed with him being rated #1 WBC. That's some Don Jose bullshit. Those ratings are all corrupted, especially the WBC. Kids got a lot of potential but should'nt be fighting for a championship, he's only got 40 fights in his whole life, a normal fighter has about 200, amateur and pros. When jr went pro he was still hitting puberty, he's only 23. You sound like you're following all the hype Arum is putting out there. You guys gotta look past all the promoter bullshit. Although I don't believe he should be hosting his own PPV's, but then again that's Bob Arum's doing.

havent seen anything impressive about this kid. I'm sure he's had the best training and coaching in the world because of his dad, but being an elite boxer comes from within. You need to be blessed with talent.

That's exactly what I've said in past post's and threads, those fights were kinda like an amateur career with a grossly outdated trainer (his uncle). I'm looking to see what he's gonna do in the future. This is the first fight under Roach, so like I said I'm not expecting much, he's still got a lot to learn. But people should stop listening to Bob Arum, he's a crook. The kid wants to fight the best, and eventually IMO, Roach can get him there. "Not expecting much" "Got a lot to learn" "Eventually....." Well that fact of the matter is that the kid, solely because of his name, is now rated #1 by the WBC. How long exactly will he be able to hold that ranking without fighting someone with a pulse? You can't have it both ways. He doesn't have 5 more fights or 3 more years to find out if he is ready for someone who actually knows how to box. The first time he gets in the ring with a real top-5 fighter at any weight he is going to get bludgeoned.

Let's call his 40 first fights his "amateur" fights because seriously he's only fought bums. Vanda was the only guy with a desent record, and he loast the first fight eventhough they drew. Now Duddy is no pushover, so if he gets by duddy in a legit way meaning via KO TKO UD then I will pay attention. But as of now I'm not sold on him or his brother for that matter. That's exactly what I've said in past post's and threads, those fights were kinda like an amateur career with a grossly outdated trainer (his uncle). I'm looking to see what he's gonna do in the future. This is the first fight under Roach, so like I said I'm not expecting much, he's still got a lot to learn. But people should stop listening to Bob Arum, he's a crook. The kid wants to fight the best, and eventually IMO, Roach can get him there.

Let's call his 40 first fights his "amateur" fights because seriously he's only fought bums. Vanda was the only guy with a desent record, and he loast the first fight eventhough they drew. Now Duddy is no pushover, so if he gets by duddy in a legit way meaning via KO TKO UD then I will pay attention. But as of now I'm not sold on him or his brother for that matter.

this kid is not going to acomplish much, he is riding his fathers jock strap that's why he is even under arum. Duddy sucks but I beat he kills this kid. Duddy has been in the ring against good fighters. Jr hasn't Riding his fathers jock? Naw that's Bob Arum doing that for money, you're mixing the two up. Julio has never said he was this great fighter and has been humble, Bob Arum has done the hyping. He's under Arum, his father was under Don King. Duddy had an amateur career, Jr did'nt.

this kid is not going to acomplish much, he is riding his fathers jock strap that's why he is even under arum. Duddy sucks but I beat he kills this kid. Duddy has been in the ring against good fighters. Jr hasn't

he really doesnt look impressive at all in training Hes slow on his feet, really slow with his hands but his power is decent/good power Yea, but that's always been his style, kinda like his father, picks his punches, it's not a carbon copy but close. This is his first fight under Roach so I'm not expecting too much. But Ithink he'll get alot better with more training. I remember what Roach did for Johnny Tapia, took him to another level.

I dont care the way he looks, he is completely dead on his feet. Might work against mexican cab drivers, but not even against the top 20 of welter-sww. That's why he's got a new trainer in Roach. Dead on his feet, you ever watch any of his fights? Hahahahaha, at the cab driver comment, I remember when Greg Haugen said that to Sr, and Sr knocked his ass out. Besides, the majority of his fights have been against Americans.

he really doesnt look impressive at all in training Hes slow on his feet, really slow with his hands but his power is decent/good power

John Duddy will whoop his ass, so he will.

I'll beleive his hype when he takes training serious and comes in more cut the natural way How do you mean? He took the training serious with Roach, and I've never seen him look as good as he does now, and that's just the start.

I'll beleive his hype when he takes training serious and comes in more cut the natural way