As of now, the leader board for the Super Six Tournie looks a bit like this:
1. Andre Ward with 4 points
2. Arthur Abraham with 3 points
3. Mikkel Kessler with 2 points
4. Carl Froch with 2 points
5. Andre Dirrell with 2 points
6. Allan Green with 0 points
Ward is to face Dirrell next
followed by a matchup between Froch against Abraham & Kessler against Green.
but let's just say Froch, Dirrell, and Green lose their upcoming bouts (i'm not saying they will)
Green would obviously then be out of the tournament, but then who goes on to the semi finals between Dirrell and Froch who both carry 2 points each?
do they fight one other for the spot?
Oh, that makes sense, I thought it would be a battle to see who is the second top seed.
Alright gentleman, since nobody seems to be too well informed about the tiebreaker system, the Hitman is here to spread some knowledge.
If there is no head to head tiebreaker because 2 men did not fight they then go to the scorecards from all 3 fights and add up the cumulative total of all rounds won from all 3 cards.
Whichever fighter has won more total rounds over the course of 3 fights will either A) Advance to the next round in lieu of another fighter with the same point total or B) Earn a higher seed than another fighter with the same point total... which is important because the higher seeded fighters should have the advantage in location and venue.
So for instance.
Say that Arthur Abraham win a decision over Froch and Ward draws with Dirrell... both men would finish with 5 pts and be tied for 1st.... so they would determine who would be seeded higher by doing this.
Abraham: Rounds won vs. Taylor (9, 7, 8 for total of 24) Rounds won vs Dirrell (1, 2, 2 for a total of 5) and Froch (hypothetically 6,7,8 for a total of 21) that makes a cumulative total of 50 rounds won for AA from 3 fights.
Ward: Rounds won vs Kessler (9,9,8 for a total of 26) Rounds won vs Green (12,12,12 for a total of 36) and Dirrell (hypothetically 6,6,6 for a total of 18)
that makes a cumulative total of 70 rounds won for Ward.
Therefore Ward would advance as the #1 seed and Abraham would be the #2 seed.
All these are exactly right for both scenarios....
Now my question is... What happens if there is a draw in the semi-finals?
make me fight 3 more rounds! now that would be entertaining, they would know it was all to play for!
All 4 would Advance and theyd be ranked as such:
1. Abraham
2. Direll
3. Ward
4. Kessler
Oh, that makes sense, I thought it would be a battle to see who is the second top seed.
So lets say that in semi finals match there is a winner. And, then in the other one there is a draw. That means the winner would have to sit out and wait to the tie-breaker rematch happens? And, then to set up the finals fight. It might be a year of a inactivity for that winner. That doesn't seem right.
And, I am pretty sure he wouldn't want to take a stay busy while the tie breaker rematch is going on cuz what about if he losses the stay busy fight. What then?
I think thats the risk the guys know going in if something liek that was too happen.
There is the risk of injury and actually losing to a scrub. They could sit and get rusty or fight a tune up.
Thing is though. The people who have to rematch would have to go through hell again so at the end of the day more would be taken out of the guys in the rematch then the guy waiting for a scrap.
Interesting. My guess would be a a tie breaker rematch.
huh. did not know they had a bracket thing on the website.
but they do not allow a draw on the semi-finals...
definitely a rematch then
So lets say that in semi finals match there is a winner. And, then in the other one there is a draw. That means the winner would have to sit out and wait to the tie-breaker rematch happens? And, then to set up the finals fight. It might be a year of a inactivity for that winner. That doesn't seem right.
And, I am pretty sure he wouldn't want to take a stay busy while the tie breaker rematch is going on cuz what about if he losses the stay busy fight. What then?
All these are exactly right for both scenarios....
Now my question is... What happens if there is a draw in the semi-finals?
huh. did not know they had a bracket thing on the website.
but they do not allow a draw on the semi-finals...
definitely a rematch then
no do-overs. i agree i'd like to see a rematch, but that's not how it works. Dirrell doesn't have anyone to blame but himself. he even said before the fight that he's not going to win decision the UK. so i dont know why he stopped fighting towards the end
Yea thats true, he should have easily schooled him but looked scared
IMO it should have been a big point difference but the real Dirrell didnt show up
is this really how it works?
if so, that's f*cked up.
Dirrell lost a controversial split decision to Froch.
why not let them face each other one more time?
no do-overs. i agree i'd like to see a rematch, but that's not how it works. Dirrell doesn't have anyone to blame but himself. he even said before the fight that he's not going to win decision the UK. so i dont know why he stopped fighting towards the end
All these are exactly right for both scenarios....
Now my question is... What happens if there is a draw in the semi-finals?
Interesting. My guess would be a a tie breaker rematch.
Nope Froch would go through because he beat Dirrell.
Froch goes on..............
All 4 would Advance and theyd be ranked as such:
1. Abraham
2. Direll
3. Ward
4. Kessler
All these are exactly right for both scenarios....
Now my question is... What happens if there is a draw in the semi-finals?
A quick side question.
1. Andre Ward with 4 points
2. Arthur Abraham with 3 points
3. Mikkel Kessler with 2 points
4. Carl Froch with 2 points
5. Andre Dirrell with 2 points
6. Allan Green with 0 points
If Dirrell wins he will have 4 points, if Kessler wins we will have 4 points and Green will be out, and if Abraham wins he will have 5 points and Froch will be out.
So it would then be:
Abraham - 5
Ward - 4
Kessler - 4
Dirrell - 4
So who would advance on then between the people who have 4's?
All 4 would Advance and theyd be ranked as such:
1. Abraham
2. Direll
3. Ward
4. Kessler
A quick side question.
1. Andre Ward with 4 points
2. Arthur Abraham with 3 points
3. Mikkel Kessler with 2 points
4. Carl Froch with 2 points
5. Andre Dirrell with 2 points
6. Allan Green with 0 points
If Dirrell wins he will have 4 points, if Kessler wins we will have 4 points and Green will be out, and if Abraham wins he will have 5 points and Froch will be out.
So it would then be:
Abraham - 5
Ward - 4
Kessler - 4
Dirrell - 4
So who would advance on then between the people who have 4's?
well since both Green and Froch is out, they all then go to the semi finals.
A quick side question.
1. Andre Ward with 4 points
2. Arthur Abraham with 3 points
3. Mikkel Kessler with 2 points
4. Carl Froch with 2 points
5. Andre Dirrell with 2 points
6. Allan Green with 0 points
If Dirrell wins he will have 4 points, if Kessler wins we will have 4 points and Green will be out, and if Abraham wins he will have 5 points and Froch will be out.
So it would then be:
Abraham - 5
Ward - 4
Kessler - 4
Dirrell - 4
So who would advance on then between the people who have 4's?
Nope Froch would go through because he beat Dirrell.
is this really how it works?
if so, that's f*cked up.
Dirrell lost a controversial split decision to Froch.
why not let them face each other one more time?
As of now, the leader board for the Super Six Tournie looks a bit like this:
1. Andre Ward with 4 points
2. Arthur Abraham with 3 points
3. Mikkel Kessler with 2 points
4. Carl Froch with 2 points
5. Andre Dirrell with 2 points
6. Allan Green with 0 points
Ward is to face Dirrell next
followed by a matchup between Froch against Abraham & Kessler against Green.
but let's just say Froch, Dirrell, and Green lose their upcoming bouts (i'm not saying they will)
Green would obviously then be out of the tournament, but then who goes on to the semi finals between Dirrell and Froch?
do they fight each other for the spot?
Nope Froch would go through because he beat Dirrell.