ADP02's analogy:
Expecting 4 million but getting 1.4 million is a success?
Example: If GM car company was expecting (forecasting) sales of 4 million but they only sold 1.4 million cars their stocks would go down NOT up!
We all know they went all out in promotion costs. Evident with the Gladiator commercials bill boards and marketing hype. there was the superbowl promo.. man he was exposed to 100 million people at least and no doubt, besides that there's boxing journalist who find it newsworthy to print him. They really went all out in the marketing of the fight. Transaltion they spend so much and expected more from the fight that even if they don't reach 4million they where expecting at least way over the 1.5million mark.
Meaning anything less than 1.5mil will either be break even or a loss to there investment.
It's like this, If your projecting a sales of 4million car buys and you only sold 1.3 million cars, with the work force to maintain and a factory to run do you think the company would earn. His stocks will plunge if you know something about biz.
posted by Peyk Peyk:
The promoter’s expectations fell short from their projected profit. What they did was spend more than the required budget to promote the fight but their expectation came up at least 65% short.
If they know beforehand that the fight will flop (based on their expected revenue) then they won't spend that kind of money just to promote the fight. If I'm not mistaken the 24/7 HBO shows was amplified from 5 part series instead of the standard 4 series show. -------
Of course Mayweather and Mosely still got paid big, but I'm sure the promoters are getting the short end of the stick. For all the trouble and the huge cost of hyping this fight they fell really short of there presumed expectations.
4m is not really realistic, but I'm sure they where targeting 2million up, therefore it is a flop for the promoters who also want to earn for all the effort and cost promoting it. Knowing Floyd, GBP just got chump change for there effort in promoting this fight.
Another analogy:
If your a salesman normally your boss will give you a quota to deliver. It's like your boss is saying you haveto sell this much or I'm kicking you out.
It's like your boss is saying you have to sell 4million or else if you go lower than 1.5 million your under performing or losing profit for the company. And 1.4 million is way way of the mark compared to the projected 4million.
If it was in the office place the sales person would either be thrown out of work, demoted or will get a salary deduction for not achieving expectations. In other words the salesman was a big disappointment.
And plz don't say that boxing ain't a business coz boxing is all about money.
So in your opinion in terms of promoters making money, do you guys still think Floyd's fight with Mosely a success?
Which point? That Mayweather outsold Pacquiao yet again?
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Geez, your a exactly a good example of what a dumbass is like lol.. 4 million is what your favorite promoter is preaching. Not 2million mark but 4 million.
Was there ever a fight who broke 3 million?
No, so 4 million is really far fetched if you want to hype it, if your a promoter you would say it will probably reach 3million and there's a big possibility it will break the 2.4million ppv record.
4 million is just plain and simple ridiculous. Geez hard to talk to flomos, but I know he won't still get it lol
Dumbass pricks hehe!
Geez your a exactly a good example of what a dumbass is like lol.. 4 million is what your favorite promoter is preaching. Not 2million mark but 4 million.
Was there ever a fight who broke 3 million?
No so 4 million is really far fetched if you want to hype it, if your a promoter you say it will even reach 3million and there's a big possibility it will break the 2.4million ppv record.
4 million is just plain and simple ridiculous. Geez hard to talk to flomos, but I know he won't still get it lol
Dumbass pricks hehe!
all these pactarded people who think GBP didnt make tons of money off the 2nd highest grossing non HW fight is plain stupid...
Naah, there not pactards just boxing people who have common sense, unlike flomos who flip flaps lol
You just have to have logic to get it, but it seems some don't have it.. It's sad really lol :fing02:
I actually thought they could reach the 3million mark because floyd and mosley are one of the most high profile fights, most recognize and 2 of the most well known boxers of this era...... But i was very wrong. And for the GBP spending alot of $$$$$$$$$ promoting this fight i do think they are just even with the revenue they get is just enough to pay the amount of money they spend in the promotional of this fight.
if 1.4 mil is a failure them is 700k;nobody in there right mind thought they would do 4 mil hell Floyd vs Manny won't do 4 mil. It did the amount of PPv buys most expect from 1.4 to 2 mil. People want to downplay because he shitted on the Horrbile EVENT.
Only Schaefer from GBP whos dumb enough to project 4m lol
end of discussion :fing02:
if 1.4 mil is a failure them is 700k;nobody in there right mind thought they would do 4 mil hell Floyd vs Manny won't do 4 mil. It did the amount of PPv buys most expect from 1.4 to 2 mil. People want to downplay because he shitted on the Horrbile EVENT.
Ya'll think they really expected 4million? That's almost twice the highest PPV ever. I didn't know the invented time machines for prime Tyson and prime Ali to come out and fight each other.
4m is not really realistic, but I'm sure they where targeting 2million up, therefore it is a flop for the promoters who also want to earn for all the effort and cost promoting it. Knowing Floyd, GBP just got chump change for there effort in promoting this fight.
The promoter’s expectations fell short from their projected profit. What they did was spend more than the required budget to promote the fight but their expectation came up at least 65% short.
If they know beforehand that the fight will flop (based on their expected revenue) then they won't spend that kind of money just to promote the fight. If I'm not mistaken the 24/7 HBO shows was amplified from 5 part series instead of the standard 4 series show. -------
Of course Mayweather and Mosely still got paid big, but I'm sure the promoters are getting the short end of the stick. For all the trouble and the huge cost of hyping this fight they fell really short of there presumed expectations.
If there target is 2million up then it is mute and academic that 1.4 is a disappiontment for the promoters :fing02:
Ya'll think they really expected 4million? That's almost twice the highest PPV ever. I didn't know the invented time machines for prime Tyson and prime Ali to come out and fight each other.
I hope the TS is getting some of that money. Arguing like he was getting a cut of that dinero.
I wish hehe! I'm just bringing this out so that boxing fans can know that when your dealing or promoting with Floyd even the promoter gets short changed :fing02:
I'm sure it was said somewhere in these 15 pages. The 4 million was a number thrown out there by GBP to generate hype. Nobody knows if GBP expected 2 million buys. We don't have any real way to gauge how much money was spent on promotion or how much money was really made. The fight was in no way a flop. A flop would be a situation where they either made very little money or were in the negative. If they truly expected 2 million, maybe you can label the fight a slight disappointment.
Yup still 2million and 1.4million are big figures bro.. If there targeting a minimum of 2mill and max of 4mill. I would say that's a very big disappointment.:fing02:
There's no hate hear. Just cold hard facts. If your a salesman normally your boss will give you a quota to deliver. It's like your boss is saying you have sell this much or I'm kicking you out.
It's like your boss is saying you have to sell 4million or else if you go lower than that your under performing or losing profit for the company. And 1.4 million is way way of the mark compared to the projected 4million.
If it was in the office place the sales person would either be thrown out of work, demoted or will get a salary deduction for not achieving expectations.
Yes, so they probably expected 2 million, so how is 1.4 a flop? it's better then damn near any fight in the last few years not involving DLH. Stop hating, anything over a million ppv buys is a success & i'm sure all those involved in promoting it were happy with the results. only one complaining is you, blockhead.
If your a salesman normally your boss will give you a quota to deliver. It's like your boss is saying you have sell this much or I'm kicking you out.
It's like your boss is saying you have to sell 4million or else if you go lower than that your under performing or losing profit for the company. And 1.4 million is way way of the mark compared to the projected 4million.
If it was in the office place the sales person would either be thrown out of work, demoted or will get a salary deduction for not achieving expectations.
cut the BS you and I know that is the truth, only people bitching about a PPV doing 1.4 million are Mayweather haters and Pacman fans, the second highest grossing PPV for a non-heavyweight match up in boxing history and you consider that a "Flop" are you SERIOUS?
had this been any other fighter doing the same numbers, people would be bragging about how successful it was, it is no way in hell this fight was going to do better then Mayweather vs Oscar, only fight that will do better then that is of course Mayweather vs Pacman
If your a salesman normally your boss will give you a quota to deliver. It's like your boss is saying you have sell this much or I'm kicking you out.
It's like your boss is saying you have to sell 4million or else if you go lower than that your under performing or losing profit for the company. And 1.4 million is way way of the mark compared to the projected 4million.
If it was in the office place the sales person would either be thrown out of work, demoted or will get a salary deduction for not achieving expectations.
Golden Boy's expectations were a flop, but the PPV overall was not.
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It is a flop when a promoter didn't earn much. But yes 1.4 ppv is still a lot of viewers, but in terms of making money it is a flop.:fing02: