When will people realize (MAY/PAC)

When will people realize that if GBP was not involved in these negotiations there would be no dispute on purse splits. It would be 50/50 and we would move on to the fight of the decade Mayweather versus Pacquiao! When FMJ fought ODLH he obviously gave GBP options on his promotional rights and therefore a piece of the pie whenever he fights. Thus, Floyd's people(Haymon and Ellerbe) are trying to make sure that Floyd takes home as much as Pac and the only way to do that is get Floyd a bigger cut of the purse to off set whatever GBP is going to be due. If GBP did not have options on FMJ why else would anyone in their right mind let them be part of this negotiation? It is not to protect FMJ's best interest because he has Al Haymon for that. This exposes the real truth which is that Floyd Mayweather Jr. is contractually obligated to fight for Golden Boy Promotions. He is in fact not self promoted by the sham company that is Pretty Boy Promotions. He is promoted by Golden Boy. His ego does not want anyone to know this but the facts make it impossible for him to deny it. He needed Oscar to start making "mega fight" type of money and Oscar and Schaeffer knew this. That is why they made him give promotional options to GBP in order for the opportunity to fight Oscar. I see your point but the only thing I would argue is that GBP is involved because Arum will not negotiate with Al Haymon. Arum has stated his dislike of Haymon and his refusal to work with him on several occasions.

seriously man, what are the pactards talking about now? now purse split is determined by who is the more exciting fighter? haha. they never cease to amaze me when it comes to out doing their previous, idiotic justifications cant wait to see what they say after pac agrees to a lesser purse split and no cut off days. their excuses are going to be classic. I have to check myself sometimes because when it comes to Pac, normal rules do not apply. If Mayweather would have asked DLH for a 50/50 split; Mayweather would have been laughed out of the room. I don't know how anyone can determine who is a better draw if you don't use past ppv information. Tyson did it. ODLH did it but now that Mayweather is trying to do it, it's not right or you need to take into consideration fighting style and awards. Welcome to Bizarro World.

manny had negotiation problems with cotto too and cotto is under top rank

come on norrin we all know that dont bring it in here the thing is that Floyd fans see him as the bigger draw based on PPV numbers and manny fans see him as the bigger draw because he is FOTD and P4P. Fact is that like it or not Floyd is the bigger draw but not by much. I say the most Floyd should get if any is 52-48 Come on Manny and Floyd just do 50/50 no cut offs dates for the testing and lets get it on! Maybe you could enlighten me by telling me what you mean "not by much." I thought the key indicator was the ppv sales and the bottom line. I am not questioning Pac's popularity but as far as making money for the promoters Mayweather is the new "it" guy. Regardless of what you or anyone else think should happen; the reality of the situation is that Mayweather sees himself as the new ppv attraction and he is going to ask for a bigger portion of the pie. I think you are fooling yourself if you expect Mayweather to ask for less. I posted that information about Pac, to show you that he would do the same thing if he were in Mayweather's shoes.

When will people realize that if GBP was not involved in these negotiations there would be no dispute on purse splits. It would be 50/50 and we would move on to the fight of the decade Mayweather versus Pacquiao! When FMJ fought ODLH he obviously gave GBP options on his promotional rights and therefore a piece of the pie whenever he fights. Thus, Floyd's people(Haymon and Ellerbe) are trying to make sure that Floyd takes home as much as Pac and the only way to do that is get Floyd a bigger cut of the purse to off set whatever GBP is going to be due. If GBP did not have options on FMJ why else would anyone in their right mind let them be part of this negotiation? It is not to protect FMJ's best interest because he has Al Haymon for that. This exposes the real truth which is that Floyd Mayweather Jr. is contractually obligated to fight for Golden Boy Promotions. He is in fact not self promoted by the sham company that is Pretty Boy Promotions. He is promoted by Golden Boy. His ego does not want anyone to know this but the facts make it impossible for him to deny it. He needed Oscar to start making "mega fight" type of money and Oscar and Schaeffer knew this. That is why they made him give promotional options to GBP in order for the opportunity to fight Oscar. I don't think GBP has options on Floyd. But they get money from pac. that's why floyd should sign for 50/50. even at 50/50 he will get more money than pac because pac will have to pay arum and gbp. I don't know what the hold up for floyd is. maybe he is scared.

Are you serious? You would actually take an equal portion if you outsold your opponent on numerous ppv events. If that is the case then Pac should have given Clottey more than 20%. He didn't do it because it didn't make business sense. Look at this: Not only does Manny Pacquiao want the lion’s share of the purse split in the perspective bout with welterweight Miguel Cotto, requesting that he get 65% of the purse split compared to Miguel’s 35%, but he also wants Cotto to come in at a catch weight between 144 to 145 pounds, according to news at Gmannews. http://www.************.com/2009/06/pacquiao-wants-65-35-purse-split-in-cotto-bout-and-wants-miguel-to-come-in-at-144-to-145-catch-weight/ At mid-December, both boxers verbally agreed on a 50% split of the proceeds; however, Pacquiao changed his decision to a favorable 60%–40% split of the pay-per-view (PPV) revenues, while Hatton wanted an even 50% split. Pacquiao's promoter Bob Arum of Top Rank Boxing said on January 22 that the fight "was off", citing Pacquiao's decision not to sign the contract. Arum increased Pacquiao's guaranteed purse to US$12 million from $11 million and a 52%–48% split. Pacquiao's camp asked for "more demands and the deal fell apart", he said. http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3854403 De La Hoya offered Pacquiao a 30% share of the purse from the proposed Dec. 6 fight at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, but Pacquiao was seeking 40%, Arum said. "They were adamant at 70-30 and weren't going to move," Arum said. "Manny turned down the fight and asked me to get him another fight for the fall." http://articles.latimes.com/2008/aug/14/sports/sp-boxing14 come on norrin we all know that dont bring it in here the thing is that Floyd fans see him as the bigger draw based on PPV numbers and manny fans see him as the bigger draw because he is FOTD and P4P. Fact is that like it or not Floyd is the bigger draw but not by much. I say the most Floyd should get if any is 52-48 Come on Manny and Floyd just do 50/50 no cut offs dates for the testing and lets get it on!

What do you expect from a pea brain Flomos? Are you serious? You would actually take an equal portion if you outsold your opponent on numerous ppv events. If that is the case then Pac should have given Clottey more than 20%. He didn't do it because it didn't make business sense. Look at this: Not only does Manny Pacquiao want the lion’s share of the purse split in the perspective bout with welterweight Miguel Cotto, requesting that he get 65% of the purse split compared to Miguel’s 35%, but he also wants Cotto to come in at a catch weight between 144 to 145 pounds, according to news at Gmannews. http://www.************.com/2009/06/pacquiao-wants-65-35-purse-split-in-cotto-bout-and-wants-miguel-to-come-in-at-144-to-145-catch-weight/ At mid-December, both boxers verbally agreed on a 50% split of the proceeds; however, Pacquiao changed his decision to a favorable 60%–40% split of the pay-per-view (PPV) revenues, while Hatton wanted an even 50% split. Pacquiao's promoter Bob Arum of Top Rank Boxing said on January 22 that the fight "was off", citing Pacquiao's decision not to sign the contract. Arum increased Pacquiao's guaranteed purse to US$12 million from $11 million and a 52%–48% split. Pacquiao's camp asked for "more demands and the deal fell apart", he said. http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3854403 De La Hoya offered Pacquiao a 30% share of the purse from the proposed Dec. 6 fight at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, but Pacquiao was seeking 40%, Arum said. "They were adamant at 70-30 and weren't going to move," Arum said. "Manny turned down the fight and asked me to get him another fight for the fall." http://articles.latimes.com/2008/aug/14/sports/sp-boxing14

Can't read or write LOL. PAC is a congressman who will be more than you will ever be. PAC BWAA speech alone knock Mayweather out. well said my friend and you are right Pac is more than me you and anyone on this forum will ever be I guess you put me in my place

Says the pac fan the same pac that has no say in his own negotiations and the pac that cant read or write but floyd is a pea brain??? ahahhha Can't read or write LOL. PAC is a congressman who will be more than you will ever be. PAC BWAA speech alone knock Mayweather out.

hahaha good one you really beat me there then I came all over you! hahaha err.. okaay... i'm glad my post excited you that much...

Says the chuck guy the same chuck that can't differentiate reading/writing "floyd" from "flomos" but pac cant read and write??? ahahhha hahaha good one you really beat me there then I came all over you! hahaha

Says the pac fan the same pac that has no say in his own negotiations and the pac that cant read or write but floyd is a pea brain??? ahahhha Says the chuck guy the same chuck that can't differentiate reading/writing "floyd" from "flomos" but pac cant read and write??? ahahhha

It was Floyd who wanted it because he said if his next PPV outdraws Pac's next PPV at the time then he can forget about 50-50 MOST Pac fans never heard that, and if they did they ignore that fact. Plus they don't care they seem to like hurling insults more than being logical

What do you expect from a pea brain Flomos? Says the pac fan the same pac that has no say in his own negotiations and the pac that cant read or write but floyd is a pea brain??? ahahhha

If what you are saying is true (DC) then why did Floyd agree to a 50/50 split the first time around? I believe you are coming up with a complicated reason to a simple question. It isn't a question about fighting style or the best fighter but it is an economic question. Regardless of what anyone thinks of Floyd he is a market draw. HBO knows it, cable companies know it, satellite companies know it, and most importantly Floyd M. knows it. After the first failed negotiations and the selections of the Clottey and Mosely; the next negotiations were in trouble because of the ppv numbers. Simply going from a business angle; if you sell 1.4 million compared to my 700,000 crock pots or ppv shares would you be willing to give me half of the profits if we merged companies. If your company continually outsold my company, why would you be willing to give me an equal number of shares in the business. That is like ATT merging with T-Mobile or Sprint and both parties having 50% controlling interest that would never happen.

It was Floyd who wanted it because he said if his next PPV outdraws Pac's next PPV at the time then he can forget about 50-50