Espn p4p ranking is the most viewed of all p4p rankins as espn.com is where 90 percent of people go for sports news. I like his list much better than the bizare ring one but have a few questions of what u guys think. Don't want to discuss mayweather or pacquio where either could be one or two. I like dawson at 4, donaire at 9 and bradley at ten. Can respect the other 5 spots but have a few questions. Is paul williams really the best fighter besides the big 2in money and pac? Is martinez really number 5 for winning one of his last 3 fights officially? Is marquez too high or low at 6 depending on how u take that embarassing mayweather loss? Does cotto deserve to be 7 for beating foreman or does he get this spot for being third biggest draw? Last even though no one has ever dominated this guy but does old hopkins deserve to be at 8 he should fight dawson?
Espn p4p ranking is the most viewed of all p4p rankins as espn.com is where 90 percent of people go for sports news. I like his list much better than the bizare ring one but have a few questions of what u guys think. Don't want to discuss mayweather or pacquio where either could be one or two. I like dawson at 4, donaire at 9 and bradley at ten. Can respect the other 5 spots but have a few questions. Is paul williams really the best fighter besides the big 2in money and pac? Is martinez really number 5 for winning one of his last 3 fights officially? Is marquez too high or low at 6 depending on how u take that embarassing mayweather loss? Does cotto deserve to be 7 for beating foreman or does he get this spot for being third biggest draw? Last even though no one has ever dominated this guy but does old hopkins deserve to be at 8 he should fight dawson?
I'll defend Martinez and Cotto
First Martinez, he first fights Cintron at 154 who is now #2 in the division and beats him twho times in one fight, he doesn't win it officially but everyone know who one, then moves up to fight Williams and again is a controversial decision and then challenges the middleweight king and beats him. His loss came to a guy who is in the pound for pound list, his draw to a guy that made the other one (Williams) look awkward and his win to the unified champion of a higher division so yes it is justifiable.
On to Cotto - He loses to arguably the number one guy in boxing, only to move up to challenge a natural 154 champion, dominates and knocks him out. He did enough to be at the bottom half of the pound for pound list.
Dan "Pacquiao Fanboy" Rafael is just a biased journalist.
He talks out of his arse way, way too much.
So the only way for him to be unbiased is to put Mayweather at the top?
He doesnt want to discuss number 1 or 2 because Rafael`s following might diminish if he is brave enough to put Floyd at the top spot.
you are right on the money!!!!
Every topic turns to mayweather or pacquio. What are people going to talk about on this website once they fight lol a rematch. I think this is what hurts boxings popularity that even the hardcore fans only talk about the same two fighters
lol im sorry. It was just what came to mind when Dan Rafael was brought up, The guy just seems to be very biased in what he says. It's all his opinion and very little of what he says is factual. As for Mayweather/Pacquiao, Yeah everyone is abit obsessed with it and have been for a while. But im sure it will be over after they fight. Hopefully anyway... :lol1:
Espn p4p ranking is the most viewed of all p4p rankins as espn.com is where 90 percent of people go for sports news. I like his list much better than the bizare ring one but have a few questions of what u guys think. Don't want to discuss mayweather or pacquio where either could be one or two. I like dawson at 4, donaire at 9 and bradley at ten. Can respect the other 5 spots but have a few questions. Is paul williams really the best fighter besides the big 2in money and pac? Is martinez really number 5 for winning one of his last 3 fights officially? Is marquez too high or low at 6 depending on how u take that embarassing mayweather loss? Does cotto deserve to be 7 for beating foreman or does he get this spot for being third biggest draw? Last even though no one has ever dominated this guy but does old hopkins deserve to be at 8 he should fight dawson?
could you list the top 10 fighters Dan has up there? i think you have to be an espn insider to see the top 10..
i know he has PAc at 1, Floyd at 2 and Paul Williams at 3..
I understand those rankings, especially Paul Williams, and If Cotto is ranked 7 then that is crazy as well
Every topic turns to mayweather or pacquio. What are people going to talk about on this website once they fight lol a rematch. I think this is what hurts boxings popularity that even the hardcore fans only talk about the same two fighters
To be fair the news on any boxing site is probably 50% for both divas. We even have big poppa defending that stance. It is really business and fans even hardcore ones talk approx 50% about their favorite boxers. I believe boxing's popularity is hurt not by the fans but by the fighters themselves. Going in for the money fights with putting in the necessary work first. Which is why I don't really blame much pac or pbf. They have already earned that status... being boxing divas. :D
Dan "Pacquiao Fanboy" Rafael is just a biased journalist.
He talks out of his arse way, way too much.
Name me one journalist who has no bias... Infact name me ANYONE who has no bias.
There's a reason why Dan Rafael is working for ESPN and getting paid while you are here posting in a forum 24/7.
Every topic turns to mayweather or pacquio. What are people going to talk about on this website once they fight lol a rematch. I think this is what hurts boxings popularity that even the hardcore fans only talk about the same two fighters
No because pac and floyd used interchangeable at 1 and 2 has had 234577 threads and its boring to keep talking about. Let's just wait to see if they fight and then see who wins. My topic is for ranking 3 to 10