Who beat the better version of SSM?

Excellent Post!!!! I was gonna say it until I saw your post. You are right on the money wether or not some people want to recognize this, it's the truth. Oscar was a shadow of his old self, and Shane lets face it is also aproaching the end of a long career. Shane is a great fighter but was made to look like a tougher match with the way he beat Margarito. Although it was a good win, it was 1 1/2 prior and against a tailor made fighter that wasn't gonna move ansd stand right in front of Shane the whole fight. Once again good post!!!! Thanks Jai Mari!

While I know it wasn't directed at me, i don't mind answering that one. Yes, Floyd might have had something to do with it but you need to remember that both Mosley and Oscar were past their prime. Mosley almost 39 and had big time ring rust. That's a no no at any age but at 39, it's not good! Oscar (vs Floyd) was busier being Golden Boy Productions than DelaHoya. Since his loss to Hopkins in 2004, he only had a 6 round fight with Mayorga. Floyd fought him in 2007. Freddy Roach used the fight against Floyd as the reason why Manny may have the chance to win. "Oscar couldn't pull the trigger anymore". Both have been hit by heavier punchers than Floyd yet they both were able to dish it back against their opponents. That is, relatively speaking, they put a better showing for a full 12 rounds. Even if they would miss, they still went at it for a full 12 rounds. Go back to Mosley vs Cotto. Cotto hit him with vicious shots. That didn't stop Mosley from trying to hit back after 2 rounds. Mosley was not the Mosley we know even against Cotto but he was closer than he was against Floyd. Excellent Post!!!! I was gonna say it until I saw your post. You are right on the money wether or not some people want to recognize this, it's the truth. Oscar was a shadow of his old self, and Shane lets face it is also aproaching the end of a long career. Shane is a great fighter but was made to look like a tougher match with the way he beat Margarito. Although it was a good win, it was 1 1/2 prior and against a tailor made fighter that wasn't gonna move ansd stand right in front of Shane the whole fight. Once again good post!!!!

Cotto backed off.......he timed shane with the jab...that is how he beat him, but he backed off a bit and let Shane get back in after he got a second wind......Floyd timed him with the jab and is alot faster than Cotto and can also follow the jab with a right hand......once Floyd knew which angles Shanes punches were coming from it was all over.......i haven't seen Shane that confused and discouraged since his first fight with Forrest......he had no idea what was coming..........Shane is a very vert good 2 trick pony...he has superior speed and power to almost all of his opponents.....when it's not working he becomes more agressive and just tries harder.....like he did against Cotto.....he wasn't discouraged against Cotto because he was able to land and mount offense.......againt Floyd everytie he tried to mount any meaningful offense after rd 2 he was shut down......... People forget Mosley destroyed Margarito one fight earlier.......Floyd beating Shane in the manner he did had very little to do with a "big" decline in Shane......he dominated Shane for 10 rds......... i so not dispute ODLH was not in his prime against Mayweather, but floyd beat him easily as a welterweight with Roach in his corner = no credit......yet somehow people want us to believe a severly weight drained and emaciated ODLH against Pac at 147 is an impressive victory..........it's not!!! it was. One one person this world saw it coming. It was not you.

Cotto. Mosley was younger, and he had a huge layoff before the Mayweather fight.

Cotto backed off.......he timed shane with the jab...that is how he beat him, but he backed off a bit and let Shane get back in after he got a second wind......Floyd timed him with the jab and is alot faster than Cotto and can also follow the jab with a right hand......once Floyd knew which angles Shanes punches were coming from it was all over.......i haven't seen Shane that confused and discouraged since his first fight with Forrest......he had no idea what was coming..........Shane is a very vert good 2 trick pony...he has superior speed and power to almost all of his opponents.....when it's not working he becomes more agressive and just tries harder.....like he did against Cotto.....he wasn't discouraged against Cotto because he was able to land and mount offense.......againt Floyd everytie he tried to mount any meaningful offense after rd 2 he was shut down......... People forget Mosley destroyed Margarito one fight earlier.......Floyd beating Shane in the manner he did had very little to do with a "big" decline in Shane......he dominated Shane for 10 rds......... i so not dispute ODLH was not in his prime against Mayweather, but floyd beat him easily as a welterweight with Roach in his corner = no credit......yet somehow people want us to believe a severly weight drained and emaciated ODLH against Pac at 147 is an impressive victory..........it's not!!! Cotto fights like he did the last few rounds only when he feels like he is in some kind of trouble. Had you ever seen him fight like that before the Mosley fight? The only time that I really saw it done more often was against Margo and Manny. See the pattern? Mosley could have done it but he was gassed. His father pleaded with him but Msoley couldn't step it up to the notch required to do it. Against Floyd, he never went into any kind of intense level after the second round since he gassed himself out soon thereafter. Even though he did nothing after the 2nd round compared to his previous fights. Mosley stated he was so close to winning in that second round. So he shouldn't have been that discouraged. For a prime Mosley that would have been enough to try up to the 12th round. In the 7th round, check what Mosley and his corner say. He was finished by then. That is not the same Mosley that used to finish his fights strong. I agree that Mosley destroyed Margarito but Margo was better suited for him especially at Mosley's age. Then he waited 1.5 years before Mosley fought again .... against Floyd. Even a young Floyd picked an easier fight after his time off, as his fans agreed was smart to do by their comments. Also, at Mosley's age, every year that goes by is like dog years. Between Margo and Floyd, 1.5 dog years went by .......You can decline and look your age in your next fight.

Based on the poll, it was Miguel, of course. But not by too much. Anyways, Vernon beat the very best version of Shane.

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Cotto faced a better Mosley. Mosley was old against PBF but Floyd still gets my credit Agreed....................

Cotto faced a better Mosley. Mosley was old against PBF but Floyd still gets my credit

While I know it wasn't directed at me, i don't mind answering that one. Yes, Floyd might have had something to do with it but you need to remember that both Mosley and Oscar were past their prime. Mosley almost 39 and had big time ring rust. That's a no no at any age but at 39, it's not good! Oscar (vs Floyd) was busier being Golden Boy Productions than DelaHoya. Since his loss to Hopkins in 2004, he only had a 6 round fight with Mayorga. Floyd fought him in 2007. Freddy Roach used the fight against Floyd as the reason why Manny may have the chance to win. "Oscar couldn't pull the trigger anymore". Both have been hit by heavier punchers than Floyd yet they both were able to dish it back against their opponents. That is, relatively speaking, they put a better showing for a full 12 rounds. Even if they would miss, they still went at it for a full 12 rounds. Go back to Mosley vs Cotto. Cotto hit him with vicious shots. That didn't stop Mosley from trying to hit back after 2 rounds. Mosley was not the Mosley we know even against Cotto but he was closer than he was against Floyd. Cotto backed off.......he timed shane with the jab...that is how he beat him, but he backed off a bit and let Shane get back in after he got a second wind......Floyd timed him with the jab and is alot faster than Cotto and can also follow the jab with a right hand......once Floyd knew which angles Shanes punches were coming from it was all over.......i haven't seen Shane that confused and discouraged since his first fight with Forrest......he had no idea what was coming..........Shane is a very vert good 2 trick pony...he has superior speed and power to almost all of his opponents.....when it's not working he becomes more agressive and just tries harder.....like he did against Cotto.....he wasn't discouraged against Cotto because he was able to land and mount offense.......againt Floyd everytie he tried to mount any meaningful offense after rd 2 he was shut down......... People forget Mosley destroyed Margarito one fight earlier.......Floyd beating Shane in the manner he did had very little to do with a "big" decline in Shane......he dominated Shane for 10 rds......... i so not dispute ODLH was not in his prime against Mayweather, but floyd beat him easily as a welterweight with Roach in his corner = no credit......yet somehow people want us to believe a severly weight drained and emaciated ODLH against Pac at 147 is an impressive victory..........it's not!!!

Cotto fan, but can't really vote here. I think both Cotto and May fought very good versions of Mosley. Styles makes fights. Mosley doesn't know what to do when he is outsmarted.

I voted cotto cause floyd will never fight cotto in MSG way back the when it really counts.

It's funny how all of these fighters just magically stop punching against FMJ isn't it???? First ODLH just "FORGOT" to throw the jab and now Shane just "stopped" punching........:tool: use your brain a little bit more-----> you may come to the right conclusion!!! While I know it wasn't directed at me, i don't mind answering that one. Yes, Floyd might have had something to do with it but you need to remember that both Mosley and Oscar were past their prime. Mosley almost 39 and had big time ring rust. That's a no no at any age but at 39, it's not good! Oscar (vs Floyd) was busier being Golden Boy Productions than DelaHoya. Since his loss to Hopkins in 2004, he only had a 6 round fight with Mayorga. Floyd fought him in 2007. Freddy Roach used the fight against Floyd as the reason why Manny may have the chance to win. "Oscar couldn't pull the trigger anymore". Both have been hit by heavier punchers than Floyd yet they both were able to dish it back against their opponents. That is, relatively speaking, they put a better showing for a full 12 rounds. Even if they would miss, they still went at it for a full 12 rounds. Go back to Mosley vs Cotto. Cotto hit him with vicious shots. That didn't stop Mosley from trying to hit back after 2 rounds. Mosley was not the Mosley we know even against Cotto but he was closer than he was against Floyd.

Cotto fought a two years younger SSM but then again Cotto didn't really beat Mosley he barley won

I like how floyd beat him but i gotta say pac totally dismantled shane....Pac never fought Shane...but PAc did beat Shane.

Who cares, both beat him. If anything, neither are topping what Vernon Forrest did to him lol...

Who beat the better version of SSM? Floyd or Paquiao? :D I like how floyd beat him but i gotta say pac totally dismantled shane....

and Mosley was still prime when cotto beat him..... Cotto...........but he wasn't better by much. i would vote for winky or vernon......... :haha:

Voted floyd because I was at that fight and shane won that one!

Cotto without a doubt. Mosley didnt stop punching after two rounds It's funny how all of these fighters just magically stop punching against FMJ isn't it???? First ODLH just "FORGOT" to throw the jab and now Shane just "stopped" punching........:tool: use your brain a little bit more-----> you may come to the right conclusion!!!