What are your thoughts on Jose Napoles? I know he was Cuban, but he fought almost his whole career out of Mexico and was accepted as one of their own. I would respect whether you chose to put him on the list or not. But if you did, where would he rank for you?
I see Napoles as a Cuban, but if he was to be put on the list Ill put him #7 right behind Olivarez.
well for one he didn't get knocked the fuk out by pac! Yes I know Morales beat Pac but when you get blown out in the next two bouts and add in losses to David Diaz and Zahir Raheem that Win loses a lot of it's importance. JMM consistently fought Pac on even terms Plus he won the lineal Light weight title and did it at an age well past his prime. Morales is what 31 or 32 years old and he so far past his prime that he might as well be 51 years old.
Plus Morales is a fuking crybaby who always has some crybaby shit to say about Marquez even after he retired. Guy needs to show a little class in my opinion.
Im sorry to break down to you, but Moralez is the second greates super bamtamWeight, he has a better resume than JMM and JMM is a bigger cry baby than Erick wich means shit when making a atg list.
Second JMM was not out of his prime when he beat Diaz.
Third it doesnt matter at what age a fighters prime is over.
Fourth, you just think JMM beat Pac and thats your whole argument
Rafa is top 20 at best.
Thank You!
History will decide. A lot of these old ****ers are way overrated, just like all the old timers are.
We'll see where the dust settles in about 20 years.
Explain how Sanchez, Olivares, who should be third on that list, and Azteca are overrated?
And, to be honest Finito Lopez had more skills then the Marquez brothers. As great as JMM is. Lopez was one or two levels above in terms of skills. The man was awesome however JMM has the better resume.
I also think Canto maybe top 5. But, that is also matter of opinion. Maybe where Ch@mp has him is the right place.
However, ch@mp how is Carlos Zarate not in your top 10?
And, really Olivares #3 all time out of Mexico. Kid Azteca is also top 5.
O, do you care to explain, Why??
well for one he didn't get knocked the fuk out by pac! Yes I know Morales beat Pac but when you get blown out in the next two bouts and add in losses to David Diaz and Zahir Raheem that Win loses a lot of it's importance. JMM consistently fought Pac on even terms Plus he won the lineal Light weight title and did it at an age well past his prime. Morales is what 31 or 32 years old and he so far past his prime that he might as well be 51 years old.
Plus Morales is a fuking crybaby who always has some crybaby shit to say about Marquez even after he retired. Guy needs to show a little class in my opinion.
C@cique@PR;8638752]1.Julio Cesar Chavez - 107-6-2(86KOs)
2.Salvador Sanchez - 44-1-1(32KOs)
3.Kid Azteca - 158-42-8(88KOs)
4.Erick Moralez - 49-6-0(34KOs)
5.Ricardo Lopez - 51-0-1(38KOs)
6.Ruben Olivares - 88-13-3(77KOs)
7.Marco Antonio Barera - 65-7-0(43KOs)
8.Juan Manuel Marquez - 50-5-1(37KOs)
9.Miguel Canto - 61-9-4(15KOs)
10.Juan Zurita - 131-24-1(43KOs)
What are your thoughts on Jose Napoles? I know he was Cuban, but he fought almost his whole career out of Mexico and was accepted as one of their own. I would respect whether you chose to put him on the list or not. But if you did, where would he rank for you?
Just cuz' you memorize names and troll Wiki and boxrec for old fight results doesn't mean you can "talk boxing" authoritatively.
Nuthugger.
Your list is shit.
hey jacky prove hes wrong and do a list of your own.
its his list and nobody can take it away from him.
i dont agree with his fighters he chose but unfort. ATG lists has always been disputed.
Just cuz' you memorize names and troll Wiki and boxrec for old fight results doesn't mean you can "talk boxing" authoritatively.
Nuthugger.
Your list is shit.
again I talk boxing, you start trolling your pathethic!!!!!! :crying::bottle:
I don't expect you to take Cotto's cock out of your mouth and Juanma's cock out of your ass either.
I guess, its hard for you, when you get exposed as te fool that you are.
Great comeback, I talk boxing, he starts trolling, lol
Marquez is far better than both Morales and Barrera. And you left out Rafa.
Both Marquez bro's should be top five. Sanchez died at 23 years old and you can't put him there ahead of guys who actually achieved just because he had potential.
No they're not, as a Marquez fan lets not be silly.
Marquez is far better than both Morales and Barrera. And you left out Rafa.
Both Marquez bro's should be top five. Sanchez died at 23 years old and you can't put him there ahead of guys who actually achieved just because he had potential.
Sanchez KTFO the greates SBW of all time, he owned the great azumah Nelson, Laporter, Nicke Perez, Ruben Castillo,Danny Lopez,ect,ect.
I dont expect you to know that though.
Rafa Marquez should be on that list. Over who is the question.
Yeah because Wins over Mabuzza and Izzy, plus getting KOd by Garcia Top what the other guys did.
Damn fools, Rafa is not even top 15!!
well for starters you don't have the 41-0 undefeated Chavez jr. up in there, so you failed. Miserably.
Your making me laugh out loud today!
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Its a good list but I'd have Sanchez #1 and Chavez #2.
Sanchez couldve been a top 10 ATG he was better than Morales, Marquez, and Barrera.
Men, Chavez was not as skilled as him, but Chavez trumps him in accomplishments. Chavez at 1 point was 86-0 or someshit like that.
If Chava wouldnt have died, he would had been indeed Top 10 atg