The Circus that is camp Pacquiao

I basically told Arum the same thing but he stuck to his no comment stance.

floyd was able to prove every allegation about him, scarredto fight big ww, ducker, etc. false with his big win. did floyd fight cotto or clottey? See what I mean about reading? Not Manny, BOB! Bob had the media "on his side" then floyd fought a natural ww who Bob said he ducked and kicked his a$$. Now Bob needs a new plan. Plus don't you think it's a little ridiculous that Manny who naturally is a lightweight, who moved all the way up to the welterweight is afraid of fighting bigger fighters? Every fighter he fights is a lot bigger than him so how exactly is he afraid? I'm overexagerrating but is Floyd gonna say Mannys afraid of Lucian Bute next because he's "too big" for Manny? I never has said he is afraid of any fighter. Bob said floyd was but that is out the window after he beat Mosley. hence, Bob needs a new way to undermine floyd. I mean seriously you can't hold manny to the same expectations of a natural welterweight no matter how good he might be. Just because Manny never fights Paul Williams or any of these other freakishly big Welters doesn't mean he's afraid of them or is ducking them. I didn't say he ducked anyone. He is fighting the fights that make the most business sense. But, once he is at the weight he has to fight the fighters. Thats the standard for floyd then its the standard for manny. And you owe Big Dun an apology for the slander! Ok so what your saying is because Floyd did something that every champion boxer is supposed to be doing that gives him negotiating leverage?

Scared to fight a big welter weight? Clottey is a big welterweight! Cotto is a big welterweight! Just because they arn't freakishly big like Paul Williams doesn't mean they arn't big. I really don't see any of these so called alligations being proven in anyway. Plus don't you think it's a little ridiculous that Manny who naturally is a lightweight, who moved all the way up to the welterweight is afraid of fighting bigger fighters? Every fighter he fights is a lot bigger than him so how exactly is he afraid? I'm overexagerrating but is Floyd gonna say Mannys afraid of Lucian Bute next because he's "too big" for Manny? I mean seriously you can't hold manny to the same expectations of a natural welterweight no matter how good he might be. Just because Manny never fights Paul Williams or any of these other freakishly big Welters doesn't mean he's afraid of them or is ducking them. floyd was able to prove every allegation about him, scarredto fight big ww, ducker, etc. false with his big win. did floyd fight cotto or clottey? See what I mean about reading? Not Manny, BOB! Bob had the media "on his side" then floyd fought a natural ww who Bob said he ducked and kicked his a$$. Now Bob needs a new plan. Plus don't you think it's a little ridiculous that Manny who naturally is a lightweight, who moved all the way up to the welterweight is afraid of fighting bigger fighters? Every fighter he fights is a lot bigger than him so how exactly is he afraid? I'm overexagerrating but is Floyd gonna say Mannys afraid of Lucian Bute next because he's "too big" for Manny? I never has said he is afraid of any fighter. Bob said floyd was but that is out the window after he beat Mosley. hence, Bob needs a new way to undermine floyd. I mean seriously you can't hold manny to the same expectations of a natural welterweight no matter how good he might be. Just because Manny never fights Paul Williams or any of these other freakishly big Welters doesn't mean he's afraid of them or is ducking them. I didn't say he ducked anyone. He is fighting the fights that make the most business sense. But, once he is at the weight he has to fight the fighters. Thats the standard for floyd then its the standard for manny. And you owe Big Dun an apology for the slander!

Quote: Originally Posted by pistol whip Are you seriously comparing Clotty vs Pac to Shane vs Floyd? Respectfully, after the BS you pulled yesterday trying to take my serious question about top ranks matchmaking and try and paint me as a racist I'm tempted to not respond to this post. That said again check the context of the posts. I thought after both fights were finished floyd gained the negotiating leverage and his credibility was increased in the media. I thought Bob played his cards wrong because floyd was able to prove every allegation about him, scarredto fight big ww, ducker, etc. false with his big win. And his initial purse $22.5 mil was significantly bigger than Manny's $13.5 mil. I think it just changed perceptions of each fighter to a degeree. Scared to fight a big welter weight? Clottey is a big welterweight! Cotto is a big welterweight! Just because they arn't freakishly big like Paul Williams doesn't mean they arn't big. I really don't see any of these so called alligations being proven in anyway. Plus don't you think it's a little ridiculous that Manny who naturally is a lightweight, who moved all the way up to the welterweight is afraid of fighting bigger fighters? Every fighter he fights is a lot bigger than him so how exactly is he afraid? I'm overexagerrating but is Floyd gonna say Mannys afraid of Lucian Bute next because he's "too big" for Manny? I mean seriously you can't hold manny to the same expectations of a natural welterweight no matter how good he might be. Just because Manny never fights Paul Williams or any of these other freakishly big Welters doesn't mean he's afraid of them or is ducking them.

Yeah I agree. Team Pacquiao is a circus. Very inconsistent! I mean why don't they be like Floyd! When he's peppered with questions about Pacquiao, he shuts them all up with a brilliant reply: "....Like i said I'm taking a coupla years off" That's the way to handle stinging reporters! I'm telling you.. get people on this board some of that EXCLUSIVE A-side meth (only found in the Philippines, and ONLY available to manny Pacquiao). This board will be a happier place.

Hey man I tell it like it is! I'm not a perfect poster but I'm not gonna stand for nonsense and stupidity from knownothings. Tell'em... :boxing:

Hey you are the one who started it I was perfectly happy talking to you on a human level but the second you start calling me stupid and acting like an uptight bith expect me to call you on it. Or are you gonna say "When I called you stupid thats not what I meant". "you are taking things out of context blah blah blah". Quote: Originally Posted by pistol whip Are you seriously comparing Clotty vs Pac to Shane vs Floyd? Respectfully, after the BS you pulled yesterday trying to take my serious question about top ranks matchmaking and try and paint me as a racist I'm tempted to not respond to this post. That said again check the context of the posts. I thought after both fights were finished floyd gained the negotiating leverage and his credibility was increased in the media. I thought Bob played his cards wrong because floyd was able to prove every allegation about him, scarredto fight big ww, ducker, etc. false with his big win. And his initial purse $22.5 mil was significantly bigger than Manny's $13.5 mil. I think it just changed perceptions of each fighter to a degeree.

There are many boxing camps that are circuses in boxing, but there are a few RED NOSED clowns that are ringleaders.. :drive:

Hey you are the one who started it I was perfectly happy talking to you on a human level but the second you start calling me stupid and acting like an uptight bith expect me to call you on it. Or are you gonna say "When I called you stupid thats not what I meant". "you are taking things out of context blah blah blah". Calling me a racist is on a human level? I only tried to clear it up with you because we have gone back and forth before. We have disgreed but there was no name calling. evryone on this site knows I dont do the gay flomo pactard nuthugger name calling sh!t. Exactly when did I say you were stupid?

Damn Pistol you up here ruffling all kinds of feathers hahah Hey man I tell it like it is! I'm not a perfect poster but I'm not gonna stand for nonsense and stupidity from knownothings.

So fvck me and I'm a fvcking b!tch. Cool. I would hope you will not comment on any future posts I make If you feel that strongly. Hey you are the one who started it I was perfectly happy talking to you on a human level but the second you start calling me stupid and acting like an uptight bith expect me to call you on it. Or are you gonna say "When I called you stupid thats not what I meant". "you are taking things out of context blah blah blah".

Oh fuk you dude don't fault me for your backpeddling everytime something gets pointed out in your statements. "I didnt mean that I didn't mean that" fuking bitch thats all you ever say. So fvck me and I'm a fvcking b!tch. Cool. I would hope you will not comment on any future posts I make If you feel that strongly.

Oh fuk you dude don't fault me for your backpeddling everytime something gets pointed out in your statements. "I didnt mean that I didn't mean that" fuking bitch thats all you ever say. Damn Pistol you up here ruffling all kinds of feathers hahah

Of course Manny's "camp" is discussing other opponents it's called leverage. If you really thought that negotiating this fight was gonna be done in an upstanding way I think you are being a bit naive. Exactly, Bob is trying to get the upper hand back. In March, clottey was seen as a tough alternative to fighting floyd. As in "manny didn''t fight the best but he fought a tough guy floyd wouldn't fight.": That was a strong argument in their favor. Its gone now. IMO, bob is trying to find the argument to turn it in his favor. Last week he brought up high rolling asian gamblers that manny brings in. I just think Bob underestimated how much floyd dominating Mosley changed the landscape. Look if floyd lost bob would've had him by the balls.

Yeah my bad. I got caught trying to explain myself when I knew from the beginning I should've just ignored the post. Oh fuk you dude don't fault me for your backpeddling everytime something gets pointed out in your statements. "I didnt mean that I didn't mean that" fuking bitch thats all you ever say.

Totally right man! And for the last time, what Floyd always did right was he's his own boss, and all those other shite, and if he's inconsistent with what he says then that's his probs! That's why I gave him props for that. He's just not thinking sense mosta the time that's what, saying stupid things which are hard to fathom and creating a circus all his own. For attention or hype, IDGAS. No one can force Floyd what to do! That's what's clear all throughout. Floyd shows a knack for knowing how to play the media. All he wants is people to buy his fights. he found a system that works for him and hes running with it.

The thread starter isn't even a fan of Manny NOR Mayweather. Why call him a "flomo". I promise that is ALL some of you guys can say. I already acknowledged that!

I am stupid enough to try and get you to understand the point I'm making. I write what I mean and any other poster who has exchanged with me will tell you. If i'm wrong I say so. Manny may well get the 50/50 split. But what will he have to give up to get it? And yes Mayweather is keeping his mouth shut while Manny is discussing Cotto and Marg, opponents where he gets the bigger purse. Of course Manny's "camp" is discussing other opponents it's called leverage. If you really thought that negotiating this fight was gonna be done in an upstanding way I think you are being a bit naive.

No worries mate carry on. We can post our rebuttals if we want, when asked a question, ain't that right (if you catch my drift)? In the final analysis the problem is likely Bob deals with the US media why Pac deals with the filipino media. Mayweathers only deal with US media. Its much harder for PAc's camp to control things, especially since he was elected congressman and will have more interaction with the media than floyd. God his entourage will be even lerger now!

Almost every poster in this thread went astray instead of sticking to the topic. Now we're on the line of PPVs and purse split. Just don't be like me I desperately hate Floyd lol! SMH! Yeah my bad. I got caught trying to explain myself when I knew from the beginning I should've just ignored the post.