I was watching the local news. and Ivan calderon said that Segura should stop talking and send him a contract, that he will fight in Mexico if he have to. Calderon said he hopes Segura signs a contract but that he is afraid he will not like Solis and Sosa did. Then he added that he will most like move to 112 win a title, then he will like to fight Vic Darchinyan or arce. He says hell prefer Darchinyvn because it presents a way tougher challenge plus more money!
With that said, watching guys like Calderon and Cotto taught me that a guy who can't clinch will never beat a pressure fighter, regardless of the skill gap. If he can't clinch, or do something to slow the pressure fighter down, no amount of skill can compensate for that.
I can't believe some people actually thought that Calderon can beat Vic smh.
I was one of them...lol
FWIW I did say in another thread that Calderon was showing his age and was getting caught by a lot of bullsh1t in jesus iribe fight.
I just saw a few of Calderon fights from a few years before that and his reflex, footwork, timing and footspeed seemed impecable but again, I noticed he started to slow down. With that said, I had no idea Segura would do that to him, and I was completely wrong about that fight.
honestly...
who couldve predicted that last year...
calderon was a midly fading but still a top rated pound for pound fighter...segura looked tailor made for him but ended up being a horrible stylistic match up
That's my point. Regardless of what the "experts" say, the bottom line is you just never know. As the saying goes that's Why you play the game (fight- in this case)
Funny how everyone in this thread was completely disregarding Segura's chances completely unaware that this dude makes up for his lack of technical skill with mounds of heart and dogged determination
honestly...
who couldve predicted that last year...
calderon was a midly fading but still a top rated pound for pound fighter...segura looked tailor made for him but ended up being a horrible stylistic match up
Um are you senial or something? The thread you just made said "the new crop of AA fighters are all boring". YOU brought up race.
Gary Russel Jr was one you mentioned. Hes a 5-5 featherweight..lol. Dont backpedal now chump.
Does Calderon fight in the same style that you hate of black fighters? Yes or No.
You are real smart aren't you. So all black fighters fight the same way, is that what you claim?
Funny how everyone in this thread was completely disregarding Segura's chances completely unaware that this dude makes up for his lack of technical skill with mounds of heart and dogged determination
First Im not a Calderon die hard fan.
Second Calderon is a 5 foot midget who fights people 20+ poiunds heavier and 5 to 6 inches taller than him. The guys I mentioned in my thread are guys who are bigger, taller faster and stronger than their opponents but fight like cowards!!
The only one making this **** about race is you.
If your pu$$y hurts get some VaGISILE
Um are you senial or something? The thread you just made said "the new crop of AA fighters are all boring". YOU brought up race.
Gary Russel Jr was one you mentioned. Hes a 5-5 featherweight..lol. Dont backpedal now chump.
Does Calderon fight in the same style that you hate of black fighters? Yes or No.
Ohhhh so wait a minute. The TS is a big fan of the Puerto Rican fighter with the same style he depises of Black fighters.
:rofl:
First Im not a Calderon die hard fan.
Second Calderon is a 5 foot midget who fights people 20+ poiunds heavier and 5 to 6 inches taller than him. The guys I mentioned in my thread are guys who are bigger, taller faster and stronger than their opponents but fight like cowards!!
The only one making this **** about race is you.
If your pu$$y hurts get some VaGISILE
Theres no link numb-nuts. He just said that on the news about 45 minutes ago!
Yeah, someone was recording him in his back yard. He kept looking over his shoulder. Wonder why!?:omfg:
Can you imagine calderon with KO power? Holy shit!
Then he would be the second coming of El Finito in PR flavor lol. Though i still think Prime for Prime El Finito still had better technique, and no i'm not hating on Calderon the man is a damn good boxer and can make you look silly, only way a cunt can appreciate calderon is if they get in the ring with him and he makes you look like a you've never laced gloves before.
I only watched this past Saturday cuz' there was no boxing and I'm a junkie. I'll watch anything.
The rest of the times was just cuz' he's usually filler on undercards to bigger ppvs that I buy.
Which leads me to the question I wanna ask his defenders here. Its one thing to watch him on free tv or on an undercard where you're just killing time, but how many of you dedicated fans would actually pay to see him him as the main event.
Like physically buy a ticket, drive, pay for parking, food etc..
Be serious.
i would. i appreciate the likes of Ali and pep and he's cut from the same cloth. so yeah, i would.
then why in the **** would you watch him then? obviously you've watched him enough to form an opinion, which is fine, but when you go out your way to belittle someone who's been successful at something in a certain way, it makes you look like an idiot for watching him still.
I actually like Calderon. I know there is a lot of hate in this thread, but my only knock on him is that I feel he is older and should be going for some of the big fights at this point. 108 is loaded with guys like Segura, Solis, Tamara and Casimero. A division below its Chocolatito, Joyi and Palacios and a division above him there are the Kameda brothers and Wonjon.
Now I know he can't fight all of them and I'm not saying he resume at this point is a bad (because it isn't). I just feel the opportunity to be even better and load up his resume is there. So I'm happy he is calling out Vic, Arce and others because those are great names as well. Again, I just hope he hurries up because he is 34/35
Stop it! Wonderful fighters don't get relegated to ppv filler at 30+ years of age.
Just cuz' you and a handful of masochists have a fetish for the guy doesn't make him great. Its like when annoying teenagers only like a band cuz' only "they" know about it. Usually the reason is cuz' that band sucks.
I.e Calderon.
this is why i can't take you seriously. you're a bullshit artist.
Stop it! Wonderful fighters don't get relegated to ppv filler at 30+ years of age.
Just cuz' you and a handful of masochists have a fetish for the guy doesn't make him great. Its like when annoying teenagers only like a band cuz' only "they" know about it. Usually the reason is cuz' that band sucks.
I.e Calderon.
Whats your opinion on Ricardo Lopez?
I never understood the Calderon hate to be honest.
The dude consistently schools people, and suddenly people act like he's fought no one. Like Iribe was the best guy he ever fought.
5 feet nothing and with no power and he makes supposed killers look silly.
I can't understand why people don't like Calderon. People can't get him and he wins a ton of rounds.
If he was a runner, where would he run to? Outside of the ring?
He's right there in a small space, yet nobody can seem to beat his ass.
He's proven it time and again, even now when he's older he's still schooling the young killers.
People should like Calderon. He's wily, savvy, quick as shit, and wins every fight he is in.
All without natural brute strength. All without the natural gifts other guys have.
I mean he's a fighter for the common man. A guy who defies the odds every time he steps in the ring.
He's always at a disadvantage yet always comes out on top.
take a look at this thread. what do all his haters have in common? :lol1: