A little reminder for the Pac-LOVERS...

they never address these facts directly they just make an excuse as to why these actions are ok for manny but not for floyd pactard logic never fails to ammuse me. point blank if in spite of these facts pac did not duck shane then mayweather did not duck cotto and margarito the logic is the same for both cases either admit your guy ducked and so did the other guy or confess that neither ducked or just admit that your two faced and biased when it comes to your fighter. I have always stated that Mayweather made the right choice in choosing Baldomir over Margarito. Carlos was the lineal champ, brought more money and had just knocked off Floyd's next opponent in Zab Judah.

Yes Pacman is ducking Yuri and Shane.. Thats why he was nominated FOTY 3x and FOTD... Your right.. These boxing sports writers dont know sh$#.. They just put every boxers name in a hat and Pac was the lucky draw.. "Let a hater do their job and hate"...

Remember when floyd ran into retirement during the peak of Cotto,Margarito,Paul Williams Remember .... just when the WW division was heating up :)

Yet, Pac still feared them... I heard Pacquaio beat the living sh1t outta foreman in sparring. Judging by the Cotto fight, I could defiantly see that happening and I took the "too tall" excuses as Manny being nice and just not wanting to say Yuri sucks (or isn't good enough to land a fight with him).

against forrest he was almost knocked out. the ref was steve smoger and any other ref probably would have stopped it. pac would have forced a stoppage against the shot mosley that mayweather fought more than likely. It took Forrest some solid shots to drop Mosley, but to say he was almost knocked out is just dumb. Mosley has swallowed some of the hard shots from some of the strongest punchers around without a problem.

Imagine, Roach is trying to find someone to fight Manny at WW for only the second time at that weight. Roach is probably still not even sure if Manny is made for WW at this point even though he won against DelaHoya. So Roach thought that Cotto was the better match than Mosley for a couple of reasons which you don't seem to comprehend. By the way, this is a Cotto that beat Mosley. Yet you have a problem with that? So you must be OK then that Floyd said no to guys like Margo to fight the very impressive guy called hmmmm, what's his name? Oh, yea, Baldomir!!!! If you thought fighting Cotto instead of Mosley was a duck, then you must be fuming mad at Floyd for ducking guys like Margo to fight Baldomir, right? Answer please, are you fuming mad at Floyd? This is the real double talk!!!! These forums get more funny every time. Thanks for the laughs what are you talking about? Mosley was the 147 Champion at the time who gives a sh*t if he lost to Cotto, Mosley destroyed the guy that destroyed Cotto...so what is your point? Mosley offered to go down to 142 in weight just to fight Manny and they turned it down, once again if Mayweather would have done this it would have been a problem as for Mayweather not fighting Margarito, you like most people probably seen the video on youtube, but what you don't mention is how Mayweather told him to just keep winning and they will eventually fight, what you like most people fail to mention is how Margarito turned around and lost to relatively unknown Paul Williams at the time after approaching Mayweather about fighting him not only that but the fight with Margarito was turned down by Mayweather to get out of his deal with Top Rank to eventually set up an even bigger payday with Oscar, he not only turned down a good amount of money to fight Margarito but he also paid $700k+ to get out of his deal with Top Rank and Arum, only reason why Mayweather did that was because Arum told Mayweather that he was not going to do business with Oscar again but Mayweather knew that a fight with Oscar would not only make him BIG MONEY but it would also make him an even bigger Draw...and IT DID again it shows the double standard from WANNABE boxing fans, some people have a selective memory, they only remember what they want to remember and they never tell the entire story especially when it comes to their favorite fighter of course Roach picked Cotto over Mosley because Cotto is much Slower then Mosley, Flat Footed and they knew he had problems making weight and to make things worse they made him cut an extra 2 lbs, so how is that not considered "Ducking" or "Cherry Picking"? but if Mayweather does it then it is "Ducking and "Cherry Picking"

Mosley came to ask Roach, Margarito straight said it to Floyd face on video. It really doesn't matter how it's done. Presently, Manny's camp is having negotiations with several fighters. Floyd and Cotto for sure and maybe even Margo. Berto was right behind Floyd and Mosley because he wanted a fight yet Floyd is thinking Manny is better match. Is Floyd ducking Berto? I'm using your logic but I think I know the answer. So Manny fought Cotto instead of Mosley. Either one Manny fights for only the second time at WW is NOT a duck.

Mosley came to ask Roach, Margarito straight said it to Floyd face on video.

had Roger Mayweather done this for Floyd Mayweather people would be bashing him for it but for some reason Roach and Manny gets a PASS and people just want to avoid this topic like it never happened talk about a DOUBLE STANDARD! Mayweather said Mosley wasn't a draw but he still went ahead and fought him, then after he beat him the same people who picked Mosley are the first ones to start calling him "Old" Imagine, Roach is trying to find someone to fight Manny at WW for only the second time at that weight. Roach is probably still not even sure if Manny is made for WW at this point even though he won against DelaHoya. So Roach thought that Cotto was the better match than Mosley for a couple of reasons which you don't seem to comprehend. By the way, this is a Cotto that beat Mosley. Yet you have a problem with that? So you must be OK then that Floyd said no to guys like Margo to fight the very impressive guy called hmmmm, what's his name? Oh, yea, Baldomir!!!! If you thought fighting Cotto instead of Mosley was a duck, then you must be fuming mad at Floyd for ducking guys like Margo to fight Baldomir, right? Answer please, are you fuming mad at Floyd? This is the real double talk!!!! These forums get more funny every time. Thanks for the laughs

had Roger Mayweather done this for Floyd Mayweather people would be bashing him for it but for some reason Roach and Manny gets a PASS and people just want to avoid this topic like it never happened talk about a DOUBLE STANDARD! Mayweather said Mosley wasn't a draw but he still went ahead and fought him, then after he beat him the same people who picked Mosley are the first ones to start calling him "Old"

Could it possibly be, for whatever reason, that Roach's second excuse (too good) is a wash for the first excuse (not a draw)? You don't get to insult a man like Mosley in person and gets to live another day... I read that quote over and over and all I get out of it is Roach trying to put Mosley down as easy as possible, the second excuse is merely trying to flatter Mosley. Who ever said that Cotto was more money and is the better choice is the most likely scenario. Yes, stick to that one. Roach was just being nice. Mosley made himself a nobody by not holding too tight on his belts. Mayweather himself lose interest in Mosley. I can't blame him. Mosley's shot with Floyd was undeserved. He should have beaten Berto first. Mosley begged and begged for big fights when no one is interested. People in the business normally ignore beggars.

naw..pac fears no man imo...roach didnt fight mosley cause cotto brought more money and plus cotto beat shane..he didnt fight yuri cause....im not sure cause it wouldve been an easy win and an 8th divisional title I agree :boxing:

Could it possibly be, for whatever reason, that Roach's second excuse (too good) is a wash for the first excuse (not a draw)? You don't get to insult a man like Mosley in person and gets to live another day... I read that quote over and over and all I get out of it is Roach trying to put Mosley down as easy as possible, the second excuse is merely trying to flatter Mosley. Who ever said that Cotto was more money and is the better choice is the most likely scenario.

Mosley has never in his career, been anywhere near being knocked out or stopped. Sometimes i think some of these guys haven't been watching boxing for very long, Mosley was getting clearly outboxed but i doubt that even at this stage of his career that anyone at 147 would knock him out. against forrest he was almost knocked out. the ref was steve smoger and any other ref probably would have stopped it. pac would have forced a stoppage against the shot mosley that mayweather fought more than likely.

"Shane came to the gym twice to ask me to let him fight Manny," Roach says. "I told him no both times, and both times for the same two reasons: First, there isn't enough money there, and second, you're too good a fighter." Manny Pacquiao didn’t want to fight Yuri because he was too big and tall for him, remember Oscar De La Hoya is just as tall as Yuri, but some how Yuri was more of a threat. Marley spoke with Foreman's manager, Murray Wilson, who blasted the Pacquiao camp: "I am disgusted," Wilson told Examiner.com and ******************. "Manny fought Oscar de la Hoya, beat him so badly he put him into retirement, and Oscar’s a half inch shorter than my guy Yuri is. "I told them to go f**k themselves. Here was a chance for Pacman to try for a record eighth weight divison world title and they don’t want it now. All of a sudden, Yuri is too tall. Let them go to Ringling Brothers, Barnum & Bailey Circus and find a midget for him to fight then." "I am still willing to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. I never said the fight was off or I do not want to fight him. I will fight anyone at anytime and my record and past fights prove that. I have never and will never dodge anyone. These are my specifications for this fight regarding blood testing. I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the (press conference). I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room . I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime, anywhere, every day leading up to the fight." "The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight. That does not make sense to me why anyone would do that. These accusations of me using any performance enhancing supplements are totally unwarranted and unjustified." PAC LOVES TO DUCK SLICK BOXERS... http://repairstemcell.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/donald-duck-pic.jpg This shit is tired....Boooooooooooooo!

If the same Mosley that stepped in with Mayweather would've stepped in with Pac...and at a catchweight.... sorry folks, but Pacquiao would've won by ref stoppage early in the fight. Mosley had 2 rounds....no more. Even the haters know Manny would've turned Mosley's face into a pulp. Brother Naazim would've thrown in the towel before the 6th. Mosley has never in his career, been anywhere near being knocked out or stopped. Sometimes i think some of these guys haven't been watching boxing for very long, Mosley was getting clearly outboxed but i doubt that even at this stage of his career that anyone at 147 would knock him out.

If the same Mosley that stepped in with Mayweather would've stepped in with Pac...and at a catchweight.... sorry folks, but Pacquiao would've won by ref stoppage early in the fight. Mosley had 2 rounds....no more. Even the haters know Manny would've turned Mosley's face into a pulp. Brother Naazim would've thrown in the towel before the 6th.

"Shane came to the gym twice to ask me to let him fight Manny," Roach says. "I told him no both times, and both times for the same two reasons: First, there isn't enough money there, and second, you're too good a fighter." Manny Pacquiao didn’t want to fight Yuri because he was too big and tall for him, remember Oscar De La Hoya is just as tall as Yuri, but some how Yuri was more of a threat. Marley spoke with Foreman's manager, Murray Wilson, who blasted the Pacquiao camp: "I am disgusted," Wilson told Examiner.com and ******************. "Manny fought Oscar de la Hoya, beat him so badly he put him into retirement, and Oscar’s a half inch shorter than my guy Yuri is. "I told them to go f**k themselves. Here was a chance for Pacman to try for a record eighth weight divison world title and they don’t want it now. All of a sudden, Yuri is too tall. Let them go to Ringling Brothers, Barnum & Bailey Circus and find a midget for him to fight then." "I am still willing to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. I never said the fight was off or I do not want to fight him. I will fight anyone at anytime and my record and past fights prove that. I have never and will never dodge anyone. These are my specifications for this fight regarding blood testing. I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the (press conference). I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room . I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime, anywhere, every day leading up to the fight." "The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight. That does not make sense to me why anyone would do that. These accusations of me using any performance enhancing supplements are totally unwarranted and unjustified." PAC LOVES TO DUCK SLICK BOXERS... http://repairstemcell.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/donald-duck-pic.jpg you're just a flomo, i bet you can't come up with video on this.:lol1:

Stop being jealous that Manny Pacquiao is the Fighter Of The Decade...gosh get over it already, it's a new decade dummy LOL. Yup, I can't wait to see this Mayweather episode for Pac end. These are two different fighters with totally different styles. I'd rather see these idiot flomos compare floyd with others. Personally, I'd rather see Pac talked about without mentioning floyd jr. His fights are boring as hell. So to me these comparisons are effing useless. But that's just me. LOL

Stop being jealous that Manny Pacquiao is the Fighter Of The Decade...gosh get over it, it's a new decade already.