Other than you just really really liking him, why is Manny beating Floyd again?

Floyds reflexes (better than mannys) Floyds power (one of the most underrated in boxing) Floyds footwork (still great) Floyds stamina (almost always finishes a fight like he just went for a short jog) I think the worst thing for manny is that floyd has a reach, arm length, and height advantage because all of that plays into floyds defense. Pacquiao's stamina and power are clearly better than Floyd's. I agree that Mayweather has underrated pop, but Pacquiao hits real hard. And stamina...please. Pacquiao throws upwards of 1000 punches a fight and Mayweather will throw around 500-550.

My take: Mannys speed (as quick or faster than Floyd) Mannys power (add the fact shot you dont see coming hurt more, plus his right is dangerous too now) Mannys footwork (they key to beating Floyd, get in quick throw a combination then move then repeat -if Floyd cant handle it) Mannys stamina (hes shown even at higher weights he can perform all 12) Mannys ontop of his game right now. Best hes ever been. His time is now. His relationship with Roach is great and they'll follow a good gameplan and lay it down. My take. Floyds reflexes (better than mannys) Floyds power (one of the most underrated in boxing) Floyds footwork (still great) Floyds stamina (almost always finishes a fight like he just went for a short jog) I think the worst thing for manny is that floyd has a reach, arm length, and height advantage because all of that plays into floyds defense.

If he doesn't throw 1000 punches, he loses. He has to smother Floyd on a level that he's never been smothered before. Otherwise, if he lowers his output, Floyd counterpunches him to death and avoids everything. ^^^this right here

My take: Mannys speed (as quick or faster than Floyd) Mannys power (add the fact shot you dont see coming hurt more, plus his right is dangerous too now) Mannys footwork (they key to beating Floyd, get in quick throw a combination then move then repeat -if Floyd cant handle it) Mannys stamina (hes shown even at higher weights he can perform all 12) Mannys ontop of his game right now. Best hes ever been. His time is now. His relationship with Roach is great and they'll follow a good gameplan and lay it down. My take.

i don't think you pac fans give floyd enough credit. do you think manny is gonna go in there with no regard for floyds skill level? i highly doubt manny will come in there the way he did against clottey. he had no respect for him. that's not gonna happen when he's in there with floyd. he's not gonna throw 1000 punches i'll tell you that. I don't think manny is half as confident about this fight as his fans are.... If he doesn't throw 1000 punches, he loses. He has to smother Floyd on a level that he's never been smothered before. Otherwise, if he lowers his output, Floyd counterpunches him to death and avoids everything.

i don't think you pac fans give floyd enough credit. do you think manny is gonna go in there with no regard for floyds skill level? i highly doubt manny will come in there the way he did against clottey. he had no respect for him. that's not gonna happen when he's in there with floyd. he's not gonna throw 1000 punches i'll tell you that. I don't think manny is half as confident about this fight as his fans are....

The fight is 50-50. Pac has the speed and workrate to trouble Floyd. His power is getting overrated like crazy though. I wouldn't expect that to be a factor at all, unless Floyd waits all night. The Floyd of the Mosley fight beats Pac. He combined his counterpunching with aggression. Either guy can win, but Floyd is a better fighter as far as making adjustments. If it don't go his way, he has a plan B tactically. Pac just fights harder. Favor Floyd, but not by wipeout. Exactly right. Maybe Manny can slip enough punches through to consistently win rounds, maybe he can't. He has an advantage in that he has a devastating right hook and straight left. Floyd probably has a faster one-punch, but I can't remember a faster combination puncher than Manny, other than Meldrick Taylor. Pacquiao is going to slip punches in at those insane angles through Mayweather's guard, and I think those angles and his unbelievable balance are the key. Watching him throw four punch combinations while he should be falling over is incredible. But I honestly don't know who to pick. Such a good match-up. I wish this forum could be civil and purely discuss the boxing aspect instead of "FLOYD'S GAY!" or "MANNY'S A CHEATER!"

How about because Roach is the best trainer in the world and hes got the best fighter? How does that sound to you? That sounds VERY good indeed. But i've always had bad luck when i bet, which is why i no longer do. So far, i've always been hoping Manny wins his fights but never bet on them and he's been winning his fights. I plan to keep this tradition hoping the same result will come out with his possible fight with Floyd. But that's me of course. Other people obviously have other ideas in mind.

Fraud tries to trade with Manny, he's done cause no fighter has been successful trading punch for punch with Manny. Fraud decides to stay defensive all night, he's done cause Manny's workrate will eat him alive Clottey style. Fraud tries to jab all night, he's done cause Manny slips and counters over the jab on all his bigger opponents, thus they begin to stop jabbing(nobody seems to notice this smh). Fraud tries to counter punch all night, he's done, it'll leave him open more often for Manny's attack and his workrate will in the end be too much for Fraud to handle. Consider this a more careful Castillo 1 attack(you know, the fight Fraud lost). Closing thought, Roach nearly got a victory over Fraud with 1 fighter he trained who he's never trained before. Give Roach his fighter this time around. I think Roach knows what to do...

How about because Roach is the best trainer in the world and hes got the best fighter? How does that sound to you?

All this is speculation really. Because of the nature of boxing, there really is no way of knowing the outcome of a fight. Unless of course you're the one fixing the fight. In this case, one could reasonably say the fight has a 50-50 chance of going either way.

Why does this keep being brought up, Mayweather wouldn't fight Pacquiao. He's too dangerous. Funny that Floyd knows this and his fans don't.

The fight is 50-50. Pac has the speed and workrate to trouble Floyd. His power is getting overrated like crazy though. I wouldn't expect that to be a factor at all, unless Floyd waits all night. The Floyd of the Mosley fight beats Pac. He combined his counterpunching with aggression. Either guy can win, but Floyd is a better fighter as far as making adjustments. If it don't go his way, he has a plan B tactically. Pac just fights harder. Favor Floyd, but not by wipeout.

In all seriousness. why? Two fighters (admittedly, according to Floyd at the post Mosley fight presser) hurt him worse than Shane did in Round 2 of their fight. Zab Judah and Chop Chop. Both southpaws, both hurt him with a right hook. Manny is worlds better than both of them, and has a better and quicker right hook coming from all kinds of angles. Chances are very good that Manny can hurt Floyd, and if he does he has a much better chance than the above 3 fighters of following up on it. *None of that is to say it will happen.* Floyd could just as easily out box Manny... but the suggestion of the original poster here (by insinuating those who think Manny may win are only doing so because they "like" him) is beyond week. Stylistically, Manny has a very good chance to win the fight.

LOl you're the clown. you reply to my post but you did not anwer my questions. Why Floyd just start demanding that random blood testing during Pac-Floyd negotiations and not on any of his past 40 fights if he really that confident that he can beat Pac so easy? And did Floyd came up with a hard evidence or an eye witness to prove that Pac really using PEDs? The truth is, those accusations just came out from his dad's mouth after Pac-Hatton fight cause he cannot accept that Pac can do better than his son did to Hatton & Dela hoya so he accused him w/out any basis. Pacquiao even agreed to bood testing 14 days before the fight & another 1 RIGHT after the fight just to shut them up even its not required by the commission. Because Floyd ain't nothing but a coward when it comes to Pacquiao.

yeah, and cheaters have been beating the test with ease for years. you dudes are str8 up clowns LOl you're the clown. you reply to my post but you did not anwer my questions. Why Floyd just start demanding that random blood testing during Pac-Floyd negotiations and not on any of his past 40 fights if he really that confident that he can beat Pac so easy? And did Floyd came up with a hard evidence or an eye witness to prove that Pac really using PEDs? The truth is, those accusations just came out from his dad's mouth after Pac-Hatton fight cause he cannot accept that Pac can do better than his son did to Hatton & Dela hoya so he accused him w/out any basis. Pacquiao even agreed to bood testing 14 days before the fight & another 1 RIGHT after the fight just to shut them up even its not required by the commission.

Well if Floyd is really confident that he can beat Pacquiao easilly, he should just follow what Nevada Athletic Commision rules says like what every boxers are doing in the past several decades. Is that mean all the boxers in the past are questionable too including him? I mean he himself achieve that 40-0 ring record before w/out that random blood testing, then why he suddenly came out w/ that thing during their negotiation even it is not required by any boxing commission in any states in USA or any part of the world? The answer is so obvious, he just afraid to get beat up by Pacquiao. He saw what Pacman did to Dela Hoya, Hatton & Cotto. He knows Pacquiao is now on his prime of his career & will give him a problem because of his speed, power & Southpaw stance thats why Floyd will do everything to avoid him like what he did to Cotto, Margarito & Mosley during their prime using his premature retirement again.

If you can't outbox Mayweather, you can't beat Mayweather. And no one in the sport of boxing can outbox Mayweather, so no one can beat Mayweather, pactards! Signed, Proud Flomo pretty much.

you create a thread and then try to end it after your 2nd post? wtf is wrong with you? you're hot. anyways, I mean, i just don't see it. I CLEARLY see Mayweather out boxing Manny. I see manny trying to put pressure on Floyd and it not working. Maywether is too smart, fast, defensive and technical. Manny knows this. You know this too. I really can't wait until he beats Pacquiao. Of course Manny has a chance..everyone has a chance. Still you know in your heart of hearts that Mayweather is just too good for Manny. You KNOW this!!!!

If you can't outbox Mayweather, you can't beat Mayweather. And no one in the sport of boxing can outbox Mayweather, so no one can beat Mayweather, pactards! Signed, Proud Flomo