I've been thinking... I think Cotto has what it takes to beat Floyd...

Cotto is a smart f'n fighter... he hits hard as shit, .. and now he's got Manny Steward in his corner. I think Miguell can present some major problems for Gayweather! Cotto gets into dog fights... Floyd does not. I'll tell you this... Miguel would not have fell apart like Shane did in the second round. Floyd woulda been in a real fight. Miguel would have pushed Floyd to levels he's never been pushed before. ... Looking at your name, sig and the fact that you were mature enough to mention 'Gayweather' brings no credibility to your post whatsoever. If you wanted to provide a sincere thought on the fight then can you not be an idiot? Floyd would neutralize Cotto's power after 2-3 rounds, and would destroy Cotto after that - better footwork, speed and ring generalship.

Fanhouse Here is the story: After the Judah fight, Mayweather paid $750K to buy himself out of the Top rank contract. It must be noted at this time that Arum had Mayweather, Cotto and margarito under contract at the same time, but made zero attempt to get any of the two of them into a ring together. Anyway, after FMJ left Arum, Bob offered Floyd $8 mil to fight Margarito. Floyd essentially laughed at it, because he had just cemented his star status and didn't want to: a) do business with Bob Arum and/or Top Rank b) be under contract or give options to any promoter. Mayweather and Ellerbe said that they had their own fanbase, and that the $8 million would be coming from their own pockets. Quote: how can someone who hasn't even fought for ONE million offer me EIGHT million? Earlier that year, margarito had fought Shotgun Gomez in a half-empty room at the Aladdin. PPV sales? 30K PPV buys. No, I am not missing a zero. Thirty thousand. So, Mayweather waited for the results of Baldomir/Gatti, but more importantly the results of Shane/Vargas (II). The huge buzz was that there was going to be a Floyd/Shane fight. Team Mayweather had an offer out to Shane for a fight in the fall. HBO had reserved the Nov 4th date for Floyd's PPV (presumably, vs. Shane). Larry Merchant asked (a victorious) Shane if he would take the mayweather offer. Shane said "um, vacation...my tooth". Floyd was shocked. Team mayweather looked around and weighed their options. Baldomir had beaten Judah and gatti back-to-back. People were saying that Baldomir would be the biggest and strongest fighter than Floyd would face. Especially with a Delahoya payday in the balance. Thus, the name "Pretty Risky". Consequently, Floyd hired Goossen as a freelance (one-off) promoter to work the Baldomir fight. Floyd agreed to a base of $8,000,001 plus a cut of PPV buys. Floyd made a total of eleven million for that fight. Most imporatantly to Team mayweather, they were controlling their own destiny.

So what exactly is wrong with that? People seem like at the time that was asked Cotto was a star. The guy had only beaten at best Corley, or at best Torres. It was certainly before he fought Paulie and that was even a little known Cotto. He had maybe 20 fights, who calls out a guy with 20 fights and is already a star? Would Mayweather call out Angulo now? That is essentially the equivalent of what was happening. It was a sad attempt to beat a future threat while he was still young, that way Floyd would be on the "I already beat Cotto" line to avoid a fight with him in the future.It was the right call by his uncle. Don't blame Floyd because it was Arum who tried to sick Cotto on Floyd. The Angulo angle didn't make sense-no offense.

The cotto that beat mosley at that time yes he would of probly won but coto needs 1 more fight big one to get use to steward emanuel is teh best trainer by far today best trainer since dundde.

Floyd didn't come to 140 looking for just the Gatti fight. Arum wanted to make Cotto-Mayweather, which is why Floyd came to 140, and Cotto's uncle said we're not ready yet... So what exactly is wrong with that? People seem like at the time that was asked Cotto was a star. The guy had only beaten at best Corley, or at best Torres. It was certainly before he fought Paulie and that was even a little known Cotto. He had maybe 20 fights, who calls out a guy with 20 fights and is already a star? Would Mayweather call out Angulo now? That is essentially the equivalent of what was happening. It was a sad attempt to beat a future threat while he was still young, that way Floyd would be on the "I already beat Cotto" line to avoid a fight with him in the future.

Hard to tell what Cotto has left just off the Foreman fight, but assuming he is fully back; Cotto has had trouble with hard punchers that apply pressure(Manny, Antonio) and Mayweather is far from that. So Cotto would do very well against Mayweather. Alot better than Hatton did and going into the later rounds Mayweather-Hatton was close on the scorecards.You are living a lie when you say Floyd-Hatton was close lol... Hatton didn't win a round in that fight imo...

There was never a time Cotto could beat a fighter like Floyd...EVER!!! As I said, Cotto lacks a right hand, and you need an arsenal of punches to beat a fighter like Floyd. Cotto is also too easy to hit.

Hard to tell what Cotto has left just off the Foreman fight, but assuming he is fully back; Cotto has had trouble with hard punchers that apply pressure(Manny, Antonio) and Mayweather is far from that. So Cotto would do very well against Mayweather. Alot better than Hatton did and going into the later rounds Mayweather-Hatton was close on the scorecards.

to be fair......floyd did avoid Cotto.........hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmFloyd didn't come to 140 looking for just the Gatti fight. Arum wanted to make Cotto-Mayweather, which is why Floyd came to 140, and Cotto's uncle said we're not ready yet...

Cotto is a smart f'n fighter... he hits hard as shit, .. and now he's got Manny Steward in his corner. I think Miguell can present some major problems for Gayweather! Cotto gets into dog fights... Floyd does not. I'll tell you this... Miguel would not have fell apart like Shane did in the second round. Floyd woulda been in a real fight. Miguel would have pushed Floyd to levels he's never been pushed before. ...Cotto would've gotten his ass beat by Floyd. Shane has never been stopped. Cotto lacks the right hand to command Floyd's respect. Cotto is not stronger than Floyd, and would be hit at will by Floyd. Cotto would try to stand toe to toe with Floyd and get stopped.

Mayweather doesn't out-muscle guys. He out-skills them and he does this in numerous way which is what makes him a great fighter. He can box from the outside, he can walk his opponents down with the jab/straight right hand/check left hook, and he can fight on the inside in the trenches. It's all based on skill moreso than muscle or strength. I see no reason why he couldn't walk Cotto down in the same fashion that he walked Mosley down. It's all about landing clean effective punches, not having one punch KO power. Cotto busts up easily, and I would definitely predict him busting up if he's in the ring with a pin point accurate puncher counter-puncher like Mayweather. You seem kind of biased. This really should be all I respond to, as your argument is completely shitty. Mayweather didn't even walk Mosley down, he simply stood his ground and didn't use his legs. That isn't "walking Mosley down" as you put it. Also, Cotto gets busted up but only against guys that throw 70 or more punches a round, Mayweather is at max a 50 punch a guy, however, he is usually around 40 or so. That isn't enough to make Cotto gas out from being overwhelmed with punches. I seem biased how exactly? Because I'm looking at how guys fight, not just sucking mayweathers nuts? If you must know I like Mayweather, but that doesn't mean the guy can't run into someone he can to lose to, and you say I'm biased... Maybe you need to watch the Mayweather-Mosley fight again, because Mayweather didn't box Mosley. He brought the fight to Mosley for nearly all 12 rounds. Mosley had Cotto on his bicycle, staying away from him in the later rounds. The reason for that Cotto is pretty easy to hit and he started to bust up. The only reason that he held on and got a razor thin decision against Mosley is because he's a better boxer than Mosley. Expecting Cotto just come in and walk through Mayweather based on what he did against inferior competition is silly man. If anything the all of the guys that you named showed how easy it is to hit Cotto. Even Foreman showed how easy it is to touch Cotto with straight hands. Mayweather did out box Mosley, if that isn't boxing I'm not sure what is. Where exactly did I see Mosley being forced backward? Mosley was setting up punches through a jab, he held is ground, feinted, used angles. Again just because Mayweather stood his ground doesn't mean he didn't box or did pressure him. Marquez/Pacman is the perfect example, Marquez didn't use his legs but he still box Manny. He kept his ground, threw punches back, countered, used his jab to keep Manny from overwhelming him all the same things Floyd did. Then you say Cotto barely hung onto a decision even though he was out boxing Mosley. Cotto may have been on the ropes, but he was still winning rounds. It seems your saying things to simply fit your argument in the hopes of sounding right, but it isn't working. Yes, Cotto may have been moving backward but he was far from losing rounds. Cotto was the one landing the harder punches, watch the fight again, even the announcers realize that while Cotto is moving backward he's still doing more damage. Yet, you forgot Cotto won middle rounds where he stood his ground and he wasn't muscling Mosley around again he was OUT BOXING him. Used his jab, kept a nice mid range and landed combinations, he also feinted a few times and got Mosley with solid counters. Again all things Mayweather did to Mosley, by out boxing not out punching, overwhelming or out muscling Mosley. And please don't get me started on how Cotto was hit by 2 strong straight right hands from Foreman. I believe Mayweather got hit by two straight rights as well and he almost kissed the canvas from them. You make a valid point about Cotto having a decent jab, but it's going to take more than having a decent jab to beat Mayweather. There's a reason that De La Hoya stopped throwing the jab in the 2nd half of his fight with Mayweather. Mayweather started to counter his jab which made caused him to stop throwing it, I don't know why Mayweather critics don't give the guy his full credit. Like Del La Hoya just stopped throwing the jab because he wasn't trying to win the fight. I agree that Mayweather did counter DLH's jab, but as I stated it takes more than a jab to beat Floyd. However, unlike Cotto DLH by his own admission says he hates guys he has to chase around the ring. Watch DLH/Paq Larry Merchant brings it up add to the fact that DLH is a great money bringer to boxing but the guy lost all his big fights. His best victory is an old JCC or maybe Ike Quartey thats about it. You say that Cotto has the tools to beat Mayweatrher, but so far your case is weak. You say that Mosley was never hurt, but his corner was threatening him with stopping the fight because he was taking a beating. Mosley was taking a beating physically, emotionally, and mentally as is the case with all of Mayweather's opponents. Like I said, your case for it not happening to Cotto is weak so far. Mosley was getting beat like that, because he's never been able to beat a boxer, ever. Thats my entire argument, the same can be said for Cotto with come forward pressure fighters. If you replace May with Williams I'd be picking Williams easy because Cotto has shown he can't handle that style. Just like Mosley has shown he can't handle a guy who boxes with him. I mean come one, Mayweather is a great fighter but he isn't going to beat Mosley if he was really fighting like Margarito does. That is playing into Mosley's hands, you really have no clue what you are talking about, not trying to be a dick but its just the truth man. Mosley gave up not because he was getting run down, he was getting out boxed. He threw a punch, miss and get hit. Then he gets caught with jabs and straight rights while mid range with May because he was too fast. For the first time in his career Mosley was the slower man in the ring, it showed not just in the fight but on his face. If a guy in his entire career is the fastest, then all of a sudden his biggest asset is taken away by the other guy he gets deflated and thats why he lost it, not because he was "run down." This is where you expose or play yourself man. Any fan that has the gall to call a pro fighter a "b*tch" based on business decisions that they don't agree with is someone who is out of touch with reality. You woulsn't call Mayweather or any of the other fighters discussed here a "b*tch" to their faces, so why come here and do it? Who are you trying to impress with that tough talk? You don't even have your facts right, which is more evidence that you're biased. Mayweather didn't take less money to fight Baldomir over Margarito. The decision to leave Arum and fight Baldomir over Margarito was probably the best financial decision that Mayweatrher has made up until this point. It led the way to Mayweather becoming the biggest draw in the sport today. Stop hating man, it's a weak emotion. Firstly, I'm not hating. Believe it or not, if you think Floyd can lose a fight its not called hating its called reality. I could care less about Floyd ducking or not ducking marg, but the comment got under your skin which was my main goal. Even if Floyd fought Marg, he would have taken him to a decision in another boring but beautiful boxing lesson type of fight. It would have been sparring practice for Floyd. I completely see where Floyd comes from with picking least risk/biggest reward type fights. However, he only opens his mouth about money and he called out Cotto when Cotto was a 20 fight contender with still more experience needed. He then DID in fact take less money to fight Baldomir something like 4 million instead of 8 million had he stuck with Top Rank. I got no problem with him doing that but if money is all you care about shouldn't you have gone with Marg? Obviously there is more to "money" with Floyd its also his legacy and need to be undefeated. That being said I'm a big Floyd fan, but I would be more worried of him facing Cotto than any power come forward fighter. Williams, Margs, Angulo (all lose to Floyd) Shane, Hatton, Baldomir, Gatti I called for Floyd to whoop their asses too. The only thing that surprised me was that Floyd only gave up 1 round to Mosley I thought for sure it would have been 3 or 4 max. It made me appreciate Mayweather even more, however, Floyd has been very careful about his career and types of fighters he's faced. There is a reason he didn't fight Cotto, a reason he doesn't want to fight Paq. They are more than just rush in punchers, they set things up they are as deceptive as Mayweather is smart. May has an easier chance of beating Cotto, and I'd still favor Mayweather in a close fight, but I can see Cotto winning. Cotto grew up fighting and sparring with guys like Ivan Calderon. A guy who is the carbon copy of a Mayweather style. Just like Shane grew up fighting guys like Marg, styles make fights and Cotto has the exact type to give Mayweather trouble.

Cotto is a six round fighter. Mayweather is a championship round fighter. That's the difference. I know Cotto may possibly have fought a better version of Mosley than Mayweather did. But how can we know that for sure when Mosley had better coaching going into the Mayweather fight who gave him better instructions in between rounds? And if you want to compare their performances, Cotto had to go life and death and with and ran out of gas against the same version of Mosley who had his mouth open and breathing hard that Floyd dominated. So don't give me that shit of how Mosley gassed out after the second round, because he got tired against Cotto early in the fight too. Agreed. I watched that Cotto-Mosley fight three times, and Mosley was tired before the 5th round. But the thing is though, he was able of hitting Cotto at will, whereas he couldn't quite figured out how to do so against Floyd after the second round.

Prime Cotto would have destroyed Pacquiao and given Mayweather the fight of his lifetime, but I think he would have narrowly lost. Following the Margarito w/ loaded gloves fight, Cotto was ruined forever, and only recovered a bit when he got Manny Steward. But he would get obliterated by Floyd.

This isn't the UFC. If Cotto was a smart fighter, he should of continued doing what he did in the first round against Manny. Of course he would give Floyd problems, but he would lose due to his lack of defense..

M@nny still rocking these threads. Your awsome man lol..............

retard. so cottos chin is now stronger than mosleys? cotto has more power than mosley? RIGHT! floyd had mosley running for the whole fight after mosley clocked floyd in the 2nd round. floyd stops cotto by tko :tool: Refresh my memory, when exactly has Cotto ever been knocked out? Both of his losses came from stoppages, and Floyd isn't about to take a risk of trying to out muscle Cotto. He couldn't even out muscle or even KO a lightweight, he's not going to pressure down Cotto. Also, Mosley has never been able to beat a boxer, ever. Vernon Forrest, Winky Wright and Cotto had already beaten him by simply out boxing him. What were you really expecting when he stepped into the ring with the best boxer of the last 20+ years? In comparison, Cotto has struggled with guys who bring the fight at him, and not guys who can simply pressure but guys that through 100+ punches in a round. Yet, when he's been put in the ring with Quintana, Judah, Malignaggi, Foreman any guy who tries to box and counter he crushes them. No just a couple but every boxer he's faced, period. Mosley also doesn't have a jab worth a damn, just flicking your hand isn't going to even Floyd worry about the jab. But that wasn't even your argument you are arguing over how solid his chin is... Mosley was never hurt in the fight, he was simply frustrated. He landed what were most likely the two hardest punches in his career and he buckled Floyd, but didn't drop him. Then every time he tried to land the right he got countered. He got the fight taken out of him, not because of a beating but because he wasn't the fastest guy in the ring for the first time in his career, and he collapsed. Cotto's used to not being the fastest guy but he keeps putting slow pressure and chips away at you with his jab. Mayweather has problems with guys who have a solid jab, its the reason he never fights people with them and the reason DLH was successful early in their fight. I'm not saying Cotto would dominate or even win, but he does have the tools to beat Floyd. Oh and if you think Floyd retired and Cotto never called him out think again. Arum did turn down a fight with Floyd at 140 against Cotto, but for some reason that makes up for Floyd never fighting him? If I remember Floyd is ALL about the money well, why did he try to get a fight with Cotto even before he fought Malignaggi? His biggest fight at the time was what... Urkal or Corley? Of course Cotto isn't ready, thats like the equivalent of Floyd calling out Angulo now, because they both had only 20 fights at the time. If anything it proves how much a bitch Floyd is, because he wanted to fight him as early as possible because in the future he may have been better and even a threat to his 0 feature. And just for the record click on my sig link and see that Cotto did call out Floyd and it was right after the Mosley fight. Coincidently Floyd retired less than a year later at which point Cotto was put into the ring with Marg, the other guy Floyd completely ducked by taking a smaller payday to fight Baldomir.

Remember guys. Floyd hits harder than Clottey does. I don't know how many times I have to stress that.

Cotto is a smart f'n fighter... he hits hard as shit, .. and now he's got Manny Steward in his corner. I think Miguell can present some major problems for Gayweather! Cotto gets into dog fights... Floyd does not. I'll tell you this... Miguel would not have fell apart like Shane did in the second round. Floyd woulda been in a real fight. Miguel would have pushed Floyd to levels he's never been pushed before. ... I totally agree. Unless you hit Cotto with something serious he's coming all night. So it's either a boring decision with Airweather running around or Cotto busting up Floydie. Cotto is like a 147 Castillo but a better jabber

I'm not even a Floyd nuthugger. In fact, I was a detractor for a long time. Still am up to an extent because I think he has intentions of fighting for himself still for the most part and possibly not sealing his legacy the way he should by fighting Pacquiao and a couple other guys. But anyone who ever thinks Cotto was any kind of threat to Mayweather simply don't know how to analyze styles. Hell, Floyd hits harder than Clottey does and it aint like Cotto fought a brave fight against Clottey regardless of whether or not after he got beat down by Margarito.

Cotto is a six round fighter. Mayweather is a championship round fighter. That's the difference. I know Cotto may possibly have fought a better version of Mosley than Mayweather did. But how can we know that for sure when Mosley had better coaching going into the Mayweather fight who gave him better instructions in between rounds? And if you want to compare their performances, Cotto had to go life and death and with and ran out of gas against the same version of Mosley who had his mouth open and breathing hard that Floyd dominated. So don't give me that shit of how Mosley gassed out after the second round, because he got tired against Cotto early in the fight too. That isn't a smart argument dude, Brother Naz can coach an 80 year old man better than Santiago can coach a 60 year old man....my money's still on 60... Cotto would get outpointed by Floyd...I still think it would be a competitive fight that I wouldn't mind seeing.