Double Standards Reguarding The Destruction Of GERALD McCLELLAN?

*Troll and retardation posts about GERALD McCLELLAN's personal life will NOT be tollerated in this thread. I will humiliate you single handed (until you quit this forum) if you even imply anything related, in your posts. You have been warned.* First of all for those posters who don't know anything about the background here it is: The music makes me shed a little tear. :tragedy: "AT THE 3:00 MARK IS WHERE BENN LANDS HIS FOREARM AND I TRULY BELIEVE THAT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE END... " "It could happen to Roy in any fight and he knows that" -------------------------------------------------------------- Now lets proceed on to the main topic: Judging by this sad depressing video it seems like Gerald was too brave for his own good. Imagine the kind of names people would be calling him if Gerald threw in the towel at 3:00? If I was there In the stadium on that night I would have shut him down for being a quitter. So would you. If this NSB existed at the time posters would have been making threads like: "Gerald quiter McCLELLAN" These are the double standards were are all guilty of employing over and over again. Are we going to say the same thing about Victor Ortiz now? Are we going to say this about thrilla in manilla now? Are we going to say this about insert fighter that quit now? Ok lets take Ortiz-Maidana for example: No one on plannet earth knows what would have happened in the next 10 seconds, had victor ortiz continued. It sends chills down my spine even thinking about it. you see? It's a dark area. It's a shame Max kellerman didn't have the mental capacity to think objectively after the fight. What an (edited) idiot. In the above scenario, can you really be absolutely positively 100% sure that NONE of the fighters would have sustained permanent damage? The way those cats were knocking each other down left and right, one can only imagine what Maidana would have done to ortiz brain in the sixth round. Dwelling on matters like this gives goosebumps. A classic example of this is Chavez-Meldrik Taylor. What happens in the last two seconds, had Steel alowed it to continue? We shouldn't be ridiculing people for quiting in a fight. :no::no: Reguarding Evidence And Casual links: But you have to admit that this is circumstantial evidence right? It's nothing like the casual correlations we have built for CHD or similar things. Do you know of any scientists that have tracked things like this in boxing? -------------------------------------------------------------------- My Rant About The State Of Boxing Today: It's a shame we don't get to see these kind of fights anymore. They just DON'T have that twinkle and magic in the air combined with the legendary atmosphere In the staduim. Nowadays it's all about ducking, dodging, padded records, canned fights and propaganda stunts. This above post is completely unrelated to the damage he sustained, but I am just talking about similar fights in general. Whatever happened to ceasers palace? What happened to the legendary white and yellow lighting? What happened to boxing? It quite sad; both the damge he sustained and the state of boxing today. No one has made any attempt at ressurecting the duran/leonard/hearns era. Sugar ray leonard and Thomas hearns never ducked each other. Now compare this with the B****ing that is going on in the 140 division. You would be foolish not to notice a big difference in size of balls between the fighters of that era and this current one. "We need another braveheart like Sugar Ray Leonard. It's a shame it won't happen in the 21st century." Help me out here, do I have nostalgic syndrome? or is what I am saying making sense? EDIT: maybe I should change my example for SRL, is it a good example of a brave heart or not? Wow I just read this now...it touched my heart. I PMed you... I was in a hiatus in watching boxing until Pacquiao came up in the early 2000s. It really touched me about this person, McClellan. The real person behind the fighter.....and still a fighter now. Wow. A heart-teaching story that is for real. I wish that somebody can help him now.

The tone of my statements?:dance: If I cant see whats wrong with me and you don't know whats wrong with me, then whats the ****in' problem. Insulting..., why I never.....................Rockin' :op: LOL and You prove it with your very next statement much appreciation.

Furthermore, I just read what I had written to you. Where did I insult you? What assuming you were non union? Since you are so touchy about it that would again lead me to believe that you were non union. What states were you working in? If its because I didnt blanket you in pitty for getting ****ed up in that fight then your off man, you felt nothing for Gerald and the CHOICE that he made. I dont know where your anger stems my boy but I didnt attack you in anyway in my initial reply to you..........Rockin':loser: It was the tone of your statements, they show superiority. If you can't see that I don't know what is wrong with you. Your tone is insulting, you act as if your better than me and I don't appreciate any of that. Non-union, I am likely the most pro-union person you would ever meet. My Mom is a Union rep, my pop has been a union carpenter since 92. I have been a member of three different Unions. Two in grocery and one in carpenter in southern California. I hate walmart, I always buy American. I find it insulting that you would state oh your probably non-union. You act as if your above me. G-man was not a good person, he received Karma for the bad things he had done. I will never ever feel sorry for someone who has beaten a women. I will never support them. Just because your a fan in the ring doesn't mean that you have to be a fan of that human being. Things happen to people for a reason. If you are not a good person, negative things will impact your life. G-man was a straight thug, a selfish human being, someone who felt his entertainment was worth the torture of animals, in some cases out right killing them. So what happened to him? He entertained us by receiving a beating that would torture him for the remainder of his life. I am not a fan of anyone having that happen to them as I stated, that includes him. However I am not going to feel sorry for a human being like that. Again I say it is also his choice to be in that ring. I look at these men as gladiators, if I didn't than I wouldn't watch boxing. It is the primal side of us all that love to watch and bet on fights. Why was Gatti adored? For his smooth boxing style? No this sport is not about humanizing people, this sport is about watching men at their most primal. We all make personal choices. He chooses to be a fighter he knew the risk when he entered the ring, Karma unfortunately got to him while he was there.

As for you being a carpenter, I too was a carpenter. As for you walking 4" trusses (I'm assuming you were not tied off) thats your choice to risk your health and life working for non-union companies that do not give a **** about your health. Did they even give you insurance? Yeah, I was Union, so don't act better than me. I am very pro union, I hate when people just assume their better and know more. You are not that bright man, you insult me repeatedly and I have dusted everything off. That said there is a saying in carpentry. From 10 feet you bounce, from twenty feet you bounce, but from 30 feet you splat. Didn't work too long as a carpenter did you? I was 30 feet up so what do you do? SPLAT! LOL Insurance, that doesn't help when your dead on impact.

Again, stop restating what I've already said. No need. yeah alright

yeah ok sure Again, stop restating what I've already said. No need.

Yes that's true, I did know. You don't have to restate what I've already said. yeah ok sure

Sure you did... Yes that's true, I did know. You don't have to restate what I've already said.

I already knew a long time ago. I was just making sure you got the details correct. Sure you did...

Learnt something today didnt you lol No problem I already knew a long time ago. I was just making sure you got the details correct.

thank you for answering. :fing02: Learnt something today didnt you lol No problem

What is what? Do you think gman was the flash sort? No The gumshield was just visible, every boxer and trainer knows when a fighter gumshield is visible when boxing hes tired, in gmans case he had a problem thank you for answering. :fing02:

what is it then? answer the question. What is what? Do you think gman was the flash sort? No The gumshield was just visible, every boxer and trainer knows when a fighter gumshield is visible when boxing hes tired, in gmans case he had a problem

Isnt it quite clear.. obviously to entertain the crowd and be flash like he usually was:pat: what is it then? answer the question.

I'm asking you. Isnt it quite clear.. obviously to entertain the crowd and be flash like he usually was:pat:

What do you think I mean? I'm asking you.

Do you mean "showing it off" for the crowd/entertainment or do you just mean the gum shield was visible form his mouth/ "showing off"? What do you think I mean?

When I said "you should never show off your gumshield" I didnt mean just showing it, you misunderstood my post Theres nothing to debate about here between me and you Gman had a problem, something went wrong.. i dont know I like the gman, hes in my top 10 favourite just been misunderstood thats all Do you mean "showing it off" for the crowd/entertainment or do you just mean the gum shield was visible form his mouth/ "showing off"?

Exactly you've said it yourself. He wasn't "showing it off". It was sticking out of his mouth because of the damage he sustained during the fight. Please don't misunderstand my posts. When I said "you should never show off your gumshield" I didnt mean just showing it, you misunderstood my post Theres nothing to debate about here between me and you Gman had a problem, something went wrong.. i dont know I like the gman, hes in my top 10 favourite just been misunderstood thats all

You dont understand what I mean, from here its clear that you've never boxed before. When a fighters gumshield is visible for his opponent to see, hes either really tired or theres something wrong This is not just from personal experience but well known in boxing You may know your boxing history, by in ring things is something else Like roger mayweather says: "Most people know shit all about boxing" Exactly you've said it yourself. He wasn't "showing it off". It was sticking out of his mouth because of the damage he sustained during the fight. Please don't misunderstand my posts.