In my opinion Urine testing on its own is worthless - Conte
http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/7653/conte-volunteers-catch-cheaters/
“Most fighters open training camp about eight weeks before a fight,” Conte says. “They only way to ensure they’re really clean is to have some type of random, unannounced testing, and both blood- and urine-testing.”
If that sounds like a semi-accusatory finger being pointed at Manny Pacquiao, whose March 13 megafight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. fell apart because of Pac-Man’s incensed refusal to participate in a higher level of drug-testing than ever has been implemented in boxing, so be it.
“Is it suspicious the way (Pacquiao) has gained so much lean muscle mass while retaining and even seemingly improving his power and speed? Yes,” Conte says. “It is highly suspicious. But it’s difficult to make any type of allegations against him because he’s never tested positive for illegal drugs. The problem is that he has been subjected, as is the case with all boxers, to the standard urine testing that, in my opinion, is worthless.
Probably I will be the only one posting on this shity threads of yours but let me tell you one thing.
Mayweather is ducking Pacquiao.
bye moron.
this....................
Tygart: "We chose not to blood test closer to the fight than we did because there was no need to do so"
lol ,,,,, do you know what a blind placebo procedure is buddy ,,,,, this is the same , the power is in the not knowing when what where , have a think about this stuff before you just shoot off
you are PICKING AND CHOOSING what you want to believe in the article :
I would not want to single-out Manny Pacquiao because I have no direct evidence that he has used any performance enhancing drugs - Conte
Refutes your : Pac is highly suspicious -Conte
I don't think Manny should be singled-out until some specific information comes forward indicating that he has used performance enhancing drugs - Conte
Again and again, this refutes your : Pac is highly suspicious -Conte
Could you do what Manny Pacquiao does?' or 'Could other fighters do what Manny Pacquiao does and be clean?
I believe with hard-tech nutrition and training and these other available methods like this intermittent hypoxic training which has some of the benefits, the same benefits you would receive from using EPO, I believe it can be done. - Conte
Again, refutes your : Pac is highly suspicious -Conte
If Manny says that it weakens him to have blood drawn too close before the fight but agrees to Floyd's original 14 day cut off...isn't Manny compromising to make it a fair fight.
Refutes your : WHATS WRONG WITH A FAIR FIGHT ,
when its all said and done that is all thats being asked . - YOU
Actually, in my opinion, Conte has uttered a very contradictory statement, trying to be on both sides at the same time. Knowing about the court case, he wants to be "neutral". That's why he tied himself in knots with his mutually exclusive apologetic.
Again just my opinion, but it jumps up and hits you in the face.....
HE TOOK A BLOOD TEST FOR AIDS, NOT FOR PEDS IDIOT, IF YOU SAY HE DID GIVE US THE LINK.
AND THIS WAS NOT BY THE NSAC EITHER IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.....
I will wait.
Where is the link that the tests taken for the morales fight was for aids then?
I'll wait.
On second thought, your not worth the effort.
You guys are simple as hell, Mosley nor Mayweather knew if it would be 18 days, they expected anyday to get tested, they could have juiced, and could have been caught, they simply didnt know when they would be tested, and that my friend is the beauty of RANDOM TESTING WHICH PAC IS AFRAID OF.
Being tested anytime or anyday.
WHO WOULD RISK CHEATING?
Tygart: "We chose not to blood test closer to the fight than we did because there was no need to do so"
Right now they are struggling with who is going to pay for the blood testing idiot, so you gotta factor in whats affordable! Not all fighters make the kind of money floyd or pac makes, so who would pay for their testing?? Now if the NSAC is contemplating who will pay for better testing which according to experts is still outdated, you know damn well they wont even consider the best of the best testing.
Learn to think.....
And I stated going with the best that can be afforded, genius, I never stated it was the best, as obviously its not. But do you once again think the NSAC IS GONNA PAY SIGNIFICANTLY MORE FOR THE BEST TESTING WHEN THEY STRUGGLING TO ADOPT OLD TESTING?
YOU STATED:"Conte actually said that YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE STUPID TO BE CAUGHT by the blood tests.
The fact that in 8 years, they only caught ONE SOLITARY FIGHTER. And it wasn't even in the US!
And you call that the best?
Sheeeeeeeeesh!"
I STATED: Yes he stated you would have to be stupid to be caught by the blood test, but thats coming from him, a PED DRUG ABUSE EXPERT. According to roach he doesnt even know what a steroid is , with his high school education. (WHICH IS BULLSHIT)
So since someone has to be stupid to get caught coming from teh master of drug substances, we should not worry about it at all huh?
GIT THE FUKK OUTTA HERE!
Ows. Someone is having her period.
People conveniently forget that Manny did take a random blood test right before his first Morales fight. It wasn't even in the contract and it was a sudden request made of him.
AND HE COMPLIED WITHOUT ANY FUSS AT ALL.
It was only after that fight that he decided he couldn't take blood work near any other fight.
If he indeed was roiding, he would have been caught there and then.
HE TOOK A BLOOD TEST FOR AIDS, NOT FOR PEDS IDIOT, IF YOU SAY HE DID GIVE US THE LINK.
AND THIS WAS NOT BY THE NSAC EITHER IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.....
I will wait.
"it’s difficult to make any type of allegations against him because he’s never tested positive for illegal drugs." -Conte
YES BECAUSE HES BEEN USING THE SUPER OUTDATED PISS TEST!!!
FUKKIN GENIUS!
How can a man of his wealth be caught if he is cheating,when I know friends that have beat PISS TEST TO GET JOBS, BECAUSE THEY SMOKE MARIJUANA?? Drinking certo, or cap fulls bleach, and thats just for marijuana and a piss test.
GO SIT DOWN SOMEWHERE.
And who said that random blood tests are the best? Conte actually said that YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE STUPID TO BE CAUGHT by the blood tests.
The fact that in 8 years, they only caught ONE SOLITARY FIGHTER. And it wasn't even in the US!
And you call that the best?
Sheeeeeeeeesh!
Right now they are struggling with who is going to pay for the blood testing idiot, so you gotta factor in whats affordable! Not all fighters make the kind of money floyd or pac makes, so who would pay for their testing?? Now if the NSAC is contemplating who will pay for better testing which according to experts is still outdated, you know damn well they wont even consider the best of the best testing.
Learn to think.....
And I stated going with the best that can be afforded, genius, I never stated it was the best, as obviously its not. But do you once again think the NSAC IS GONNA PAY SIGNIFICANTLY MORE FOR THE BEST TESTING WHEN THEY STRUGGLING TO ADOPT OLD TESTING?
YOU STATED:"Conte actually said that YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE STUPID TO BE CAUGHT by the blood tests.
The fact that in 8 years, they only caught ONE SOLITARY FIGHTER. And it wasn't even in the US!
And you call that the best?
Sheeeeeeeeesh!"
I STATED: Yes he stated you would have to be stupid to be caught by the blood test, but thats coming from him, a PED DRUG ABUSE EXPERT. According to roach he doesnt even know what a steroid is , with his high school education. (WHICH IS BULLSHIT)
So since someone has to be stupid to get caught coming from teh master of drug substances, we should not worry about it at all huh?
GIT THE FUKK OUTTA HERE!
People conveniently forget that Manny did take a random blood test right before his first Morales fight. It wasn't even in the contract and it was a sudden request made of him.
AND HE COMPLIED WITHOUT ANY FUSS AT ALL.
It was only after that fight that he decided he couldn't take blood work near any other fight.
If he indeed was roiding, he would have been caught there and then.
But really, its should have a name dont you think.. Since Contes an expert at the stuff he should knowingly say, Pac is using Xenadrine (just an example), because Xenadrine can only be detected in the blood, not in the urine, and it can be flushed out immediately..
All im saying, is that these so called experts sound pretty dumb if they cant put a finger on the actual product.... They are PED experts right..
They may end up getting sued, or added to teh defamation law suit as well.
VICTOR KNOWS WHATS UP.
But you have to go with the best that can be afforded. Doing that is better than going with a piss test which people on teh street even beat for drug test for new hired jobs.
PISS TEST ARE USELESS.!!! The shit has been useles for a while now.
And who said that random blood tests are the best? Conte actually said that YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE STUPID TO BE CAUGHT by the blood tests.
The fact that in 8 years, they only caught ONE SOLITARY FIGHTER. And it wasn't even in the US!
And you call that the best?
Sheeeeeeeeesh!
And according to USADA 18 days before the fight they will know if you are clean or not. wtf
You guys are simple as hell, Mosley nor Mayweather knew if it would be 18 days, they expected anyday to get tested, they could have juiced, and could have been caught, they simply didnt know when they would be tested, and that my friend is the beauty of RANDOM TESTING WHICH PAC IS AFRAID OF.
Being tested anytime or anyday.
WHO WOULD RISK CHEATING?
And what is your explanation moron that Pac and Floyd both started boxing at 106, both at 16 years old but Floyd went up higher than Pac at 154?
ummm for that fight mayweather only weighed in at 150.
and still got a UD on oscars ass. lol!
He went up 3 pounds! from his 147
All this is moot anyway. IF Floyd jr. is ACTUALLY gonna retire, then it will prove once and for all that all this blood testing melodrama was just an excuse to avoid Manny.
That is a big IF though.
Heh. And he said that the USADA's so-called Olympic style random blood tests are ALSO worthless.
So in other words, THERE REALLY IS NO TESTING AVAILABLE which can guarantee that a fighter isn't roiding.
Sugar Ray Leonard was lucky. If he lived and fought during this time, EVERYONE would be saying he's roiding.
But you have to go with the best that can be afforded. Doing that is better than going with a piss test which people on teh street even beat for drug test for new hired jobs.
PISS TEST ARE USELESS.!!! The shit has been useles for a while now.