Undetected PED's ????

we've got another expet here....lol...you better than these doctors, sir?... Voy, former Chief Medical Office of the USOC, said current blood testing as to HGH is "ureliable and impractical." That was theme Dr. Watson chimed in on, saying, "I believe that urine is the best substance to test. I agree with Dr. Voy that urine (random testing) is what we should require and that blood is not necessary. You have no idea what blood doping is, do you?

It's call A-Side from the philippine and the only way to test it is to shoot them with a 45. :haha: Yes, thats right.. The Philippines has the best steroids out there today thats why their are Filipinos dominating sports, winning gold in the Olympics, and just out performing other countries.. The Philippines is known for creating non detectable drugs and that only the Philippines knows of..

This sucks we have to rely on the fighters honesty. :no::fing02: Pretty much, they are fighting a losing battle right now. "Recognizing that research is one of the cornerstones of an effective anti-doping program, USADA has historically allocated $2 million a year toward the study of prohibited substances, the development of tests, and other issues pertinent to the science of doping control." "The 2009 budget for USADA is $13.3 million" http://www.usantidoping.org/files/pdfs/press-kit.pdf Their budget for an entire year, is 1/3 of what Mayweather made in one night. That's one athlete, in on night. Ridiculous. As for WADA: "2009: $25,5 million funded equally by governments of the world and the IOC." "Research: Since 2001, WADA has committed approximately $50 million to scientific research"

As far as I know, there is still no test for SARMs for example. They are working on it, but it's not available right now. I'm sure there is designer steroids, peptides etc out there that isn't tested for either. What WADA doesn't now about, they don't test for. That's what happened with Clear/THG/BALCO. Someone sent them an empty syringe with the substance, and they then developed a test for it. If you look at the budgets of WADA/USADA etc, and then think about how much money that is involved in sports today... You'll probably understand that the cheaters will always be a step ahead. This sucks we have to rely on the fighters honesty. :no::fing02:

As far as I know, there is still no test for SARMs for example. They are working on it, but it's not available right now. I'm sure there is designer steroids, peptides etc out there that isn't tested for either. What WADA doesn't now about, they don't test for. That's what happened with Clear/THG/BALCO. Someone sent them an empty syringe with the substance, and they then developed a test for it. If you look at the budgets of WADA/USADA etc, and then think about how much money that is involved in sports today... You'll probably understand that the cheaters will always be a step ahead.

There's probably always going to be chemists that are ahead of the curve and making stuff for athletes that are undetectable.

ts is asking these questions as if he can get credible experts comments on these boards.........lol Do you go to a boxing gym or MMA??? Are you or you know any professional boxer?? Mosley got caught Pac among a lot of people are suspect (as no proof) of this. Are you a boxing fan? Do you care about the sport?? Do you want boxing more corrupt than before???? Some say PAc, some say Floyd had done it before and so on (only mentioning the famous ones). I really like what Floyd is doing. These TESTS need to be standard for all fights or at least the high profile ones!!! Test all fighters no matter who they are.

I just found out a guy I know from the gym can get undetectable PEDs.. he said they are very expensive and he can't afford them. He probably just gets them from the same guy he gets roids and hgh from.. They may be more common than we think. this is a very credible post...

It's call A-Side from the philippine and the only way to test it is to shoot them with a 45. If you used Talon cartridges then they will be undetectable still.

most fighters (those guys that are in shape year round esspecially) use PED's before the training camp, atleast i know i would maybe that's why floyd is always taking these long time frames between fights when no one knows where he is or what he's doin, suppossedly he's on "vacation" or "retired" but when he comes back reports come in that he was apperently working out the whole time

I just found out a guy I know from the gym can get undetectable PEDs.. he said they are very expensive and he can't afford them. He probably just gets them from the same guy he gets roids and hgh from.. They may be more common than we think. Bull shit...

It's call A-Side from the philippine and the only way to test it is to shoot them with a 45.

I'm sure there are, but at the same time blood work can detect changes. Urine is much easier to mask than blood, so in a sport where only urine is used you're more able to go undetected. That's why boxing has been the perfect sport for cheats, a piss before and after the fight is nothing. Id admit that even random urine would be a big step for boxing, but still its not going to detect certain things. But boxing is like an old man, stuck in his old ways. I doubt they want to improve the testing cause it mite affect the quality of the fights. If you know when ul be tested, you're more likley to not/hesitate cheat. Urine is more easily masked than blood. Multi urine and blood sample can be examined for changes, making it twice as hard and less likley to cheat than just using urine

Mosley was doing the Balco thing along with others sports athletes all while claiming he did not knew he was taking it. The Balco drug was undetectable and people had a hard time trying to proved it was on athletes bodies. Could there be new Drugs out there that are also undetectable?? WHo provide these drugs?? In what countries they are developed?? How they know who to contact to approach any athletes???? hhmm????? Of course there is undetectable PED's, you can't test for something you don't know exists can you?