In reality, theres no better fighter than Cotto at 154

lawl stop with that bigger and smaller talk PLEASE! Sergio is a very small MW if we have to go into that pathetic talk. If you make the weight, you make the weight. You fight on even terms.

Cotto is the best fighter at HW i guess by TS logic even if he would lose some fights due to size are you intentionally making yourself look like an idiot? question, did cotto ever fought at hw?? or do you even think that 1 day he will fight at hw? :lol1:

You forget the fact that PWill is only good because of his size so for the sake of the thread, he is not better. never did i say that pwill is only good cause of his size, pwill is good and im a pwill fan but he aint better than cotto

yep, hes better than martinez and way better than paul williams. people may argue that martinez is the more skilled fighter, granting but not accepting, cotto is still better overall and cotto's resume shits on martinez with that said, i dont think miguel should continue his campaign at 154. he may lose his fights in that division only because of the size advantage his opponents will have over him Congratulations Miguel! HUH????????????? :dunno: I think you may be a little confused, did you have a bad fall and bump your head on something? :thinking:

you probably dont know who Paul Williams is You forget the fact that PWill is only good because of his size so for the sake of the thread, he is not better.

Cotto's my boy but sergio is the main dude at 154

and you are saying that based on him fighting a feather fisted paper champ in his FIRST fight? haha...wow. show me a post stating that i gathered my thoughts on how better he is than the other fighters at 154 because he fought foreman :Flush: dont assume shit, learn to read :lol1:

Cotto isn't the best fighter at 154. it will be better if youll explain why

Cotto isn't the best fighter at 154.

The stats are way in Martinez' favor. Height: 5′ 10″ / 178cm Reach: 76″ / 193cm Cotto Height: 5′ 7″ / 170cm Reach: 67″ / 170cm Martinez has a 9 inch reach advantage and fights at a distance anyways, Cotto would be at the end of straights all night. Cotto is too small and too slow to beat Martinez IMO. It would be a great fight while it lasted though, exciting but I think Martinez wins it. its very possible that sergio may beat cotto. and yes, it will be fun while it lasts ifever the fight happens

So you're saying he's the best fighter thats at 154 even though if he was to face Martinez and Williams he would lose He still the best ??? i didnt say cotto would lose. i said, he MAY lose. theres a big difference right? let me ask you this question, if floyd mayweather moves up to 154 and lost against martinez, does it mean that martinez is a better fighter than him? or maybe floyd moving up to 160 and losing to pavlik, does it automatically make pavlik a better fighter than him?

This is Cotto's first fight at the weight and it was against Foreman. Foreman is a solid technician but is not one of the top SWW. I know Cotto is a warrior and will fight anybody but most think and I agree that the division has physically naturally bigger fighters in their primes. Unless Cotto can develop into a Montel Griffin and is able to be an effective counterpuncher fighter he will have a hard time win the top of the division. Not saying that he can't win but it would be very competitive matches

So you're saying he's the best fighter thats at 154 even though if he was to face Martinez and Williams he would lose He still the best ???

its very possible that sergio will beat cotto at 154. not because hes better, but because his bigger The stats are way in Martinez' favor. Height: 5′ 10″ / 178cm Reach: 76″ / 193cm Cotto Height: 5′ 7″ / 170cm Reach: 67″ / 170cm Martinez has a 9 inch reach advantage and fights at a distance anyways, Cotto would be at the end of straights all night. Cotto is too small and too slow to beat Martinez IMO. It would be a great fight while it lasted though, exciting but I think Martinez wins it.

for those people whos failing to comprehend, lets put it this way if floyd mayweather moves up to 154 and lost against martinez, does it mean that martinez is a better fighter than him? or maybe floyd moving up to 160 and losing to pavlik, does it automatically make pavlik a better fighter than him?

IMHO .. Cotto is the most skilled fighter in the division and hs the best resume out of anyone there.. He's a very well rouded fighter.. he can brawl and he can box.. He has a GREAT jab.. He doesnt do so good with people who can play his game which is to stalk the opponent.. if he has someone pressuring it isnt good for him.. But at the same time he always starts off good.. just gets tired in the later rounds.. He was boxing beautifully in the 1st half of the fight.. untill he gassed from the pressure.. same with Pac.. I think that if he actually boxed in the 154 division instead of trying to brawl with everyone and stays behind his jab and works more on his stamina he could be the best fighter in the division.. I hate hearing about someone being to small.. Pac was too small and look what he's done.. May is small and look at what he's done.. Now some people will tell me not to compare Cotto with May or Pac but in all seriousness Cotto is up there with the elite fighters wether people want to admit it or not.. The only person i think he would have the most trouble with is Martinez but its still a winnable fight.. Pwill got his ears boxed out by Quintana.. If Cotto puts on a "boxing" fight then i really do think he could beat Pwill.. The fight I want to see right now is Cotto vs...... well honestly anyone in the division.. I really dont think there would be a bad fight no matter who he fights there.. It wouldnt be bad for him to go down to 147 and fight Berto either or May.. good post chachi. its not that im writing off cotto at 154, its just so happen that he looked slow and small to me at 154

Did you watch the Pac fight? Watch it again if you did and see Cotto's flaws, then come back here and say he's the best at 154. There are more than 2 or 3 guys there that are better more well rounded fighters than Cotto. Martinez would beat Cotto at 154 and so would Williams. That being said Cotto was awesome in his prime, which he has past now.

IMHO .. Cotto is the most skilled fighter in the division and hs the best resume out of anyone there.. He's a very well rouded fighter.. he can brawl and he can box.. He has a GREAT jab.. He doesnt do so good with people who can play his game which is to stalk the opponent.. if he has someone pressuring it isnt good for him.. But at the same time he always starts off good.. just gets tired in the later rounds.. He was boxing beautifully in the 1st half of the fight.. untill he gassed from the pressure.. same with Pac.. I think that if he actually boxed in the 154 division instead of trying to brawl with everyone and stays behind his jab and works more on his stamina he could be the best fighter in the division.. I hate hearing about someone being to small.. Pac was too small and look what he's done.. May is small and look at what he's done.. Now some people will tell me not to compare Cotto with May or Pac but in all seriousness Cotto is up there with the elite fighters wether people want to admit it or not.. The only person i think he would have the most trouble with is Martinez but its still a winnable fight.. Pwill got his ears boxed out by Quintana.. If Cotto puts on a "boxing" fight then i really do think he could beat Pwill.. The fight I want to see right now is Cotto vs...... well honestly anyone in the division.. I really dont think there would be a bad fight no matter who he fights there.. It wouldnt be bad for him to go down to 147 and fight Berto either or May..

Cotto better than Martinez? Huh? Martinez would dance circles around Cotto, I wouldn't be surprised if Maravilla beats him late TKO.. Cotto might also lose to Paul Williams since Cotto can fold under pressure as well.. As for Dzinziruk, he has a chance but he will be eating lots of stiff right jabs.. If he gets through the jab ans closes the distance, he can pound Dzinziruk's body.. I'd say it's a 50/50 fight..

There might not be a better fighter at 154 but there are fighters capable of beating him at the weight.