Why is team Pac agreeing to an "old" deal?

"Why is team Pac agreeing to an "old" deal?" why not?? it was offered before why not offer it again?? what changed?? if anything pac is now budging a little, and trying to compromise, floyd's camp is the one trying demand things that they KNOW pac's camp won't agree on, ie. 60-40 split pac is still #1 pound for pound and this fight will still break records and make them 40 million each, if they offered this compromise before, why not agree to it now that the other party is willing?? pac's camp is not gonna bow down to the mayweathers, they are equal in status and a compromise is needed. 60-40 is bs and saying no to 14 days when it was ur idea to begin with is bs

C'mon, why are you dissecting every little thing that comes out of these 2 camps? If this agreement gets the fight made, then so be it. We all win. Who cares what their intentions are. I just wanna see a ****ing fight, don't you? WHo gets a bigger split, drug tests, weight penalties...none of that shit has nothing to do with us, so why are ya'll stressin over it? Of course I want to see this shit happen...but there are barricades that prevent us from seeing this. When the negotiations were going on the first time,I stayed up late every night for a while hoping there would be some progression....we got Clottey/Pac and Floyd/Shane. One of those fights were a great substitute, but I still took it as it was-a substitute. To me,all of this shit could have happened already if Manny agreed to it in the first place instead of waiting several months later...now he has essentially given Floyd the leverage,and we know Floyd isn't going to be a gentleman about it! lol

I didn't realize they were negotiating when Floyd said the deal was off the table. I also didn't realize people take Floyd's "talk" serious. "I might take a year or two off..."

At the end of the day,Floyd and Manny can accept whatever they want.If the fight is made,I am happy. At the same time,I am a realist and can see through some of the bullsh1t that Arum and Manny's team spin....like I have said before-if Manny REALLY felt that OST would weaken him too much to fight (remember,Manny said he would be too weak,and it would interfere with his training)and that Floyd was "bullying" him before with his request,why is it suddenly acceptable and even desirable to Manny now? Sounds like some B.S....and that is why Arum want the current negotiations to be private-especially when all of those lies were exposed previously. C'mon, why are you dissecting every little thing that comes out of these 2 camps? If this agreement gets the fight made, then so be it. We all win. Who cares what their intentions are. I just wanna see a ****ing fight, don't you? WHo gets a bigger split, drug tests, weight penalties...none of that shit has nothing to do with us, so why are ya'll stressin over it?

Do you want the fight or not? Jesus H Christ, nothing will make you happy. You don't even know if Floyd will accept the compromise, what if he does and the fight gets made, will you still be pissed? At the end of the day,Floyd and Manny can accept whatever they want.If the fight is made,I am happy. At the same time,I am a realist and can see through some of the bullsh1t that Arum and Manny's team spin....like I have said before-if Manny REALLY felt that OST would weaken him too much to fight (remember,Manny said he would be too weak,and it would interfere with his training)and that Floyd was "bullying" him before with his request,why is it suddenly acceptable and even desirable to Manny now? Sounds like some B.S....and that is why Arum want the current negotiations to be private-especially when all of those lies were exposed previously.

stfu.old or new..floyd will duck it

The posturing is annoying. That deal is off the table. Floyds situation is much different now who is Team Pac kidding with this bullshit. Damn I though this fight was close to getting signed. Instead agreeing to some old shit Team Pac should be serious about this. I know this is Arums doing. This ISNT a Pac hate thread. Pac and Roach want it. ARUM doesnt. Do you want the fight or not? Jesus H Christ, nothing will make you happy. You don't even know if Floyd will accept the compromise, what if he does and the fight gets made, will you still be pissed?

Team Mayweather, more specifically Mayweather Sr, accused Pacman the first time round. Then when negotiations started, Jr asks for OST in a non-olympic bout!! Its questioning someone's integrity without literally saying "You're cheating, take the tests and prove otherwise". Make sense? And what I was trying to say re PPV stats is that's all PBF HAS. Pacquiao is 7 division champion, FOTD & P4P King! If PBF surpasses Pacquiao's achievements then fair enough, he can call the shots..but he HASN'T! So why should Pacquiao submit to ANY demands by PBF?? I know what you are trying to say,but it is the same ranting and parroting that exclusive fans preach. You only have to scratch beneath the surface to realize that there is quite a bit of B.S. from Mannys camp as well. At the end of the day,FOTD will not give Manny any leverage in negotiations.The P4P king is really split with a lot of people divided, some have Floyd-some have Manny. The logic I do NOT understand however,is that Manny is supposed to be "too good" to "submit" to trading off a request when Floyd granted at least 3 of his.Manny speaks of Floyd gaining an unfair advantage by these testings-what are they,and why are they no longer unfair a few months down the track??? If you look at who really wants the unfair fight,it is Manny-he wants the glove size in his favour (for power), the ring size (so Floyd cannot move or be evasive), and the history's largest penalty for a fraction of a pound over the weight (10 million per pound-wait,isn't THAT the commission's job,and when has Floyd weighed over the WW limit for a 147 fight?...in fact,why did Manny impose a million dollar weight penalty for Cotto as well??? Hmmm....it CAN be perceived as a way to discourage Floyd from fighting him-especially when Freddie Roach himself believed he was not ready to fight Floyd,and though Floyd accepted these conditions like a man,Manny couldn't oblige him for one request that would serve BOTH fighters and set a decent example for boxing....(we know that Ward/Green will be using this testing,all Sauerland fighters have been using this,and state commissions are speaking of upgrading their present standards...) Floyd brings massive PPV numbers and interest as well as talent.We know that when both have fought similar opponents,that Floyd had done more numbers-and recently he has done bigger numbers than Pac-no excuses. Hell,even his fight with Shane (who isn't a major draw) did more than Pacquiao and Cotto (both of whom are big draws). So tell me why Floyd should have no right to a request of his own,because FOTD doesn't cut it- especially when Manny has based getting more than his fair share in all prior negotiations with Clottey,Cotto,Hatton,etc based on his own PPV sales and fame....suddenly he doesn't want to "kneel" to HIS own standards when it comes to negotiating.

Isn't it ppv stats and popularity that Pac uses as a bargaining tool as well? Just look at his reasoning for demanding more money than Cotto and Hatton...it was that very claim that you discredit Floyd for,but in turn,neglect to slander Manny for. How does that make him more of a warrior than Floyd based on that theory?If they are both negotiating based on stats,then why point the finger one way exclusively? I don't understand your debate...it is double standards. You say "it is accusing someone WITHOUT accusing them" ....which one is it???? BTW-do you really think either of these boxers fight for free-of course they care about money-don't think for one minute than Manny doesn't care about money or fame as much as anyone else-it got him out of poverty and keeps him and his family out of a rough life....the same reason Floyd fights. Team Mayweather, more specifically Mayweather Sr, accused Pacman the first time round. Then when negotiations started, Jr asks for OST in a non-olympic bout!! Its questioning someone's integrity without literally saying "You're cheating, take the tests and prove otherwise". Make sense? And what I was trying to say re PPV stats is that's all PBF HAS. Pacquiao is 7 division champion, FOTD & P4P King! If PBF surpasses Pacquiao's achievements then fair enough, he can call the shots..but he HASN'T! So why should Pacquiao submit to ANY demands by PBF??

The posturing is annoying. That deal is off the table. Floyds situation is much different now who is Team Pac kidding with this bullshit. Damn I though this fight was close to getting signed. Instead agreeing to some old shit Team Pac should be serious about this. I know this is Arums doing. This ISNT a Pac hate thread. Pac and Roach want it. ARUM doesnt. The only people saying this, are the floyd lovers Who are paving a way for his next excuses so they can defend him when he doesnt fight pac

That's my point. When one fighter thinks he deserves more than the other then it's hard for the fight to get made!!!! Maybe so but he has good reason, and Pacquiao missed out on his chance to make this fight with everything he is agreeing to now in March, the only difference is that now he's not in as good a positions to negotiate as he was early this year.

As if it's only Mayweather's ego that's in the way? If Mayweather has the bigger ego, trust me it's not by much. That's my point. When one fighter thinks he deserves more than the other then it's hard for the fight to get made!!!!

Just wait for Roger Mayweathers trial to start guys. If Roger is found guilty and goes to jail I think the fight is in serious trouble.

People will often pick up for who they like more.

Why is team Pac agreeing to an "old" deal? Seriously. Do you really believe Floyd will stick with that story that it is off the table. LMAO........ He already got more haters for his comment of 1 to 2 yrs off, and now you think he is going to come out and say that the offer of 14 days is off the table now. I'm sticking with what I said earlier that it's too late. GTFO with that $HIT!!!!!! We ALL know that you can't take Floyd seriously because he BULL$HITS ALL THE TIME! Now he has his Uncle to say on Radio that he is NOT taking a 1 or 2 yrs off, and that is just stupid. If his Uncle don't believe what he says, WHY DO YOU? He already looks like the fool in this negotiation, and he will even more so look like the biggest ducker ever if he sticks to that $hit!

Well then we can all kiss this fight goodbye!!!! As if it's only Mayweather's ego that's in the way? If Mayweather has the bigger ego, trust me it's not by much.

Mayweather's in a better position for these negotiationsWell then we can all kiss this fight goodbye!!!!

Mayweather's in a better position for these negotiations, he's had the tougher fight and the bigger fight and sold more so now Pac is more then happy to agree to the original requests in hope of avoiding any more. Honestly i think it's a great move for Pacquiao and a good place to start the negotiations from. My only complaint is how much i'm hearing about the negotiations from Arum, i'd rather the fight be made & then find out about it then watch it fall apart step by step.

Both of these cunts, Floyd and Pac, are playing games.

how may fighters has he ducked? ...lol...Miguel is from PR..Marg has 4 losses..Manny is on steriods......Ill fight hatton an JMM... Blah, blah, blah. Out of BS, I see.