they only sayin 14 now cause they know it's no longer available nor is 50/50 and that is why they will take it. people can say what they want but personally i hope Floyd sticks to what he said fight or no fight.
ha, so let me get this right. when floyd tried to make the fight and offered 14 days, which pac turned down, pac was trying to make the fight.
those who agree floyd should get the lions gate share and no cutoff dates,dont want the fight to happen?
haha, sure guy.
floyds calling the shots and pac has no choice but to accept. floyd is a chess player and owning arum/team pac(the checker players)
Learn to read, it makes discussion online much, much easier.
This is what my post was in response to. Re-read it, then re-read what I wrote, and then take a minute for the reading comprehension to kick in. If nothing happens after a minute or two then guess what: you're retarded. Have fun with that.
seems you dont know why RANDOM blood and no cut off dates is important
Actually I probably no more than you!
Cyclists are asked to get tested as well. With stricter rules than what are suggested by Floyd, many cyclists have gotten away. It's a cat and mouse game. The cheaters try to find ways to hide the truth and agencies find better ways of testing.
I'm sure that Manny, if he did take PEDS, could find a way to do it, especially during the non testing period. It's still a risk though ...
If you read my posts, I don't care about this testing one way or another but I step in when I hear stupidities as to why 14 days not good before and its good now...... that's crazy talk! It's called negotiations that went bad! So what!
What if Manny stated, no "CAINE" drugs to be aloud for Floyd because he doesn't wish Floyd to get any advantage either. It's illegal in some states.
Is that fair request too? Would you hate Floyd for not accepting if he doesn't?
Some guys need to see both sides to this story. It's part of negotiations....... Floyd wants his terms or the highway, if you were a Manny fan or Manny himself, you probably would question all that, right? It's like, how would you react if Manny wanted to set all of the terms. Would you just say, oh, its fair? I doubt it. So you need to understand the other side's point of view!
they only sayin 14 now cause they know it's no longer available nor is 50/50 and that is why they will take it. people can say what they want but personally i hope Floyd sticks to what he said fight or no fight.
You fools are more fans of negotiation than you are boxing. Dumb ****s cheering negotiation tactics as if they were punches. Do you idiots masturbate to pictures of cash, pictures of Floyd, or pictures of Floyd holding cash?
When did it become more about who makes more $ than it is about the actual sport of boxing? And more importantly, WHY did it become so important to Floyd fans? Unless you are getting a cut of that cash it shouldn't make a bit of difference. I could see why Floyd and his accountant would care, but Floyd's fans? What the ****?
Retards actually hoping the fight won't come off unless your masturbatory fantasy makes more money than his opponent is some psycho, stalker type shit.
Would you turn down 30+ million over a teaspoon of blood even if you could lose? He would probably lose regardless anyway.
If I lived in the Phils and already had a ton of money and can still find big fights and didn't like that someone attached PEDS to his name, I would at least say that initially!!! That is what Pac did and now said, let's go for it!
Personally, I'm not rich, I wouldn't care what you called me and I would take a fight for a lot less but I'm not Pac and I'm not Floyd.
You need to remember that Floyd didn't accept Manny's terms either so why didn't he go for less days of testing and take that 30 million? I would think it would have been a much bigger loss for Floyd to lose that money than Manny ..... remember that Floyd said he cares more about the money.
What's done is done .....
Remember that they can still test with urine up to the fight and after the fight they can still draw blood.
But Floyd's camp said those were rumors that he never shot that in his hands so I think you can throw that analogy out the window. Manny wasnt weak against Morales, he was bouncing up and down as usual, just was outboxed. Its not like we havent seen him outboxed before. But again why did he not agree to the 14 day cutoff at first then, leaving 30+ million on the table. Doesnt make much sense to me.
It's no rumors my friend. I also put out links before that stated he did use Caine drugs on his hands.....even on fight night which is a no no!!!
As for not agreeing that he "looked" weak. It can be real or something psychological. It's like a phobic person who is scared to go in the back of a small car because he feels suffocated. People would say, what??? but it's possible and psychological.
I can understand you saying it's bull but if it was your fighter, you may understand this possibility.
If you read my other posts, I gave some possibilities why .........
1. Negotiations - Why should Floyd set the terms....plus I'm not a PED user
2. Didn't like the fact Floyd called him a PED user ..... now Manny got over that initial shock and said let's go for it.
3. Psychological - but Manny's people now convinced him that 14 days is fine.
Personally, I don't care what they do as I just want to see the fight ..... if not, next!
If you guys don't get it, you never will. How is this guy now fine with 14 days?
you don't get it and you never will... so now, how is floyd planning on retirement now pac's agreeing on the test?
But we wanted no cutoffs originally and thats still what we want.
for argument's sake, let's pretend that this was indeed the case.
floyd later softened to a 14 day cutoff because he knew that would be sufficient time to ensure a clean fight.
otherwise, him agreeing to 14 days if he still thinks that pac could effectively cheat wouldn't make sense, don't you agree?
it's so obvious that this 0 day cutoff is 1 of 2 things...
1 - just pure posturing
2 - he's just scared shitless.
i choose to believe option 1.
But Floyd's camp said those were rumors that he never shot that in his hands so I think you can throw that analogy out the window. Manny wasnt weak against Morales, he was bouncing up and down as usual, just was outboxed. Its not like we havent seen him outboxed before. But again why did he not agree to the 14 day cutoff at first then, leaving 30+ million on the table. Doesnt make much sense to me.
Why didn't you say "We"....:thinking:
Ive never felt weaken even after giving way more blood than a teaspoon, if you believe his story, I have some oceanfront property in Kansas Id like to sell you, great view.
http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/g/george-strait/album-ocean-front-property.jpg
First of all, it can be psychological. Would you want your fighter going into the ring feeling that way?
Example, let's say Floyd feels that he can fight better with than without the "Caine" numbing drugs before the fight and Manny wants that part of the deal. That is, no Caine drugs aloud. Do you think Floyd would give in? Probably not and Floyd would say that is legal in Nevada anyways.
As for not affecting you doesn't mean it doesn't affect others. A friend of mine who weighed about 190 fainted while giving blood. Sure it's more than Manny would draw but remember that you or my friend are not fighting and that they can draw as many times as they wish .... not just once.
Plus these are called negotiations ....
Ive never felt weaken even after giving way more blood than a teaspoon, if you believe his story, I have some oceanfront property in Kansas Id like to sell you, great view.
http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/g/george-strait/album-ocean-front-property.jpg
i just answered the TS question and no doubt i did! he agreed to 14 days now so whats the point of saying he will be weakened by it?
Thats the whole point, we all know he wont agree to a 0 cutoff date. Look, Pac turned down 30+ million over a cutoff, if that doesnt scream not wanting to be found out about what he's doing I dont know what does.
you guys felt the same way about the 14 day cutoff.
boy... cry... wolf.
How do I know? Because thats what he says? All I know is if you dont give blood close to the fight you can be cheating, thats what I do know. Youre telling me he cant give a teaspoon of blood because it will weaken him, but he can take punch after punch for 12 rounds and still bounce up and down for those 12 rounds like we see him do in every fight, yea ok, Im buying that.
Well with that logic, Floyd can also be cheating. No one really ever wins in these topics...
If you guys don't get it, you never will. How is this guy now fine with 14 days?
yeah it wEakens him BUT HE IS STILL WILLING TO TAKE THE RISK AND FIGHT FLOYD!! THATS SOME BALLS RIGHT THERE.. BUT WILL FLOYD ACCEPT IT NOW?? HMM I DOUBT!!
How do I know? Because thats what he says? All I know is if you dont give blood close to the fight you can be cheating, thats what I do know. Youre telling me he cant give a teaspoon of blood because it will weaken him, but he can take punch after punch for 12 rounds and still bounce up and down for those 12 rounds like we see him do in every fight, yea ok, Im buying that.
this issue has already been discussed to death.
the question now is, 14 days used to be fine. now it's not?
what's next if pac agrees to 0 days cutoff?
he needs to shrink his head first before floyd agrees to a fight?
just make up your fckin minds already.