Is Floyd's best win tainted. Was Corrales really dehydrated and weak in the fight

So... Corrales kept fighting at 130 after he got out of jail. Being in jail, and not intensely training doesn't keep you at a weight class. So... I guess that means that the loss should be blamed on Corrales for not training to his full potential, like the one he showed when he beat Casamayor in the rematch. Is anyone going to crush Chambers's victory over Peter because Peter didn't bother to be in prime fighting condition? Kthanks. Morales fought Pac 3 times at that weight. It's the same situation. Both Corrales and Morales were big men and had a very hard time coming down to 130. Especially since their natural weight was so much higher. That is, these 2 were not walking around at 130-135 when they aren't training. After the Floyd fight, Corrales only other time to come down to 130 was the Casamayor fights. Here, it was a chance for his first title since coming out of jail. This doesn't include their 3rd fight where Corrales couldn't make the weight at 135. Still the point was that for the Floyd fight, even his trainer said he learnt from those mistakes they made with Corrales. They admit that Corrales didn't want to fight at 130 anymore because it was taking a toll on him. If they admit it, I think it's time you all admit it too. Corrales had problems when he entered the ring with Floyd. Actually he had many...... flu, weight, prison.

So... Corrales kept fighting at 130 after he got out of jail. Being in jail, and not intensely training doesn't keep you at a weight class. So... I guess that means that the loss should be blamed on Corrales for not training to his full potential, like the one he showed when he beat Casamayor in the rematch. Is anyone going to crush Chambers's victory over Peter because Peter didn't bother to be in prime fighting condition? Kthanks.

He already was at 135 so he had to come back down 130 which was hard and the fight was 2 weeks before he had to turn himself in!!

Dude Corralles fought at 130 years after he fought Floyd. /thread Imdazed already raped you in my thread now you come in here butt naked trying to make one last stand? Cmon man. Ceiling, you need to do some reading before you respond like that. I put the final word in your thread and if you read this one as well, carefully, you would finally realize that you are totally wrong in your assumptions. Own up man! Is it that hard?

Diego was drained/going to jail/flu.. fight was tainted.

For Corrales, it meant making the dreaded 130-pound limit one last time; one final episode of long days with only a grapefruit to eat, of jogging in rubber suits and of endless steam baths to get down to the limit. One more time, and he’d be off to the 135-pound lightweights and living fat, never having to take off those terrible final pounds again. He walked up to the scale, and the fight was, in a sense, lost right there. For all his efforts in the steam bath that morning, shedding 8 pounds, he was still 132--two pounds overweight. He went back and sucked the 2 pounds off in time for the weigh-in. A day later, his body both starved and waterlogged from his ensuing rehydration, he entered the ring--146 pounds at fight time--and the results were a disaster. http://www.newsreview.com/sacramento/content?oid=14761 Losing 10 pounds in one day will take a big toll on any fighter. Corrales was dehydrated during the fight and looks like a cancer patient that just came back from chemo during the fight.

I think you're very wrong about that. His treacle-slow reactions, and puff-ball punches, showed there was a lot wrong with him in the fight. that wasn't Corrales the killer in that fight, that was a completely drained and long starved skeleton, trying to earn money to pay lawyers. T.K.Stewart, who often writes for Boxingscene wrote an article, in which he said that at the weigh-in when he saw Corrales, bones sticking out everywhere, grey complexion, and barely able to stand, he didn't need to know that he still had a couple of lbs to take off, to be convinced, there and then, that he had NO CHANCE. This even though Corrales was fancied to win, slightly more than Mayweather. Larry Merchant tells the story that just before the fight, he passed Corrales' dressing room, and there he was, stuffing himself with a huge hamburger sandwich......... I DON'T know, why boxing fans, even though they have been told the above MANY times, still seem to remain in ignorance of the true facts of the Corrales-Mayweather fight. it was a genuine mockery of the fight game. An d, as iexamined the circumstances, what I found out, sickened me. Until then, I had disliked Corrales intensely, thinking he was nothing more than a bully. Thanks Edgarg for helping put some truth to the matter. In another thread they tried to discredit Manny vs Morales due to Morales being weight drained so Mike and I told them that using that logic then Floyd vs Corrales should also be discredited. ...... naturally they didn't believe Corrales was weight drained but we know the truth. ...... Again it was their logic but it backfired on them.

For Corrales, it meant making the dreaded 130-pound limit one last time; one final episode of long days with only a grapefruit to eat, of jogging in rubber suits and of endless steam baths to get down to the limit. One more time, and he’d be off to the 135-pound lightweights and living fat, never having to take off those terrible final pounds again. He walked up to the scale, and the fight was, in a sense, lost right there. For all his efforts in the steam bath that morning, shedding 8 pounds, he was still 132--two pounds overweight. He went back and sucked the 2 pounds off in time for the weigh-in. A day later, his body both starved and waterlogged from his ensuing rehydration, he entered the ring--146 pounds at fight time--and the results were a disaster. http://www.newsreview.com/sacramento/content?oid=14761 Hey Mike, I just got back..... I left you alone to fend from the wolves..... well, I responded in the other thread as well...... as I stated, Corrales was weight drained and showed them the proof too. Funny how they are ready to discredit Manny vs Morales but then its different story for Floyd vs Corrales. Double standards at its best!

Corrales fought Casamayor at 130 twice in 2003 and 2004. Floyd fought him in 2001. People just love to make excuses. You need to do some reading before you answer son!!! Here is more information that states Corrales was weight drained ..... "For Ariza, this is a second chance..... he received a call from ...... Diego Corrales. He, Diego, needed a strength coach....... Corrales had the flu before the Floyd fight and had trouble making weight: both factors led to an enervated Corrales getting knocked out in 10 rounds. It proved a learning experience for Ariza..... If I continued to cut weight, I'd make Corrales weaker. If I fed him, I could get him stronger then try to deal with the weight issue - and IT BACKFIRED!!!!

If you already knew this why did you make this thread? I think you're very wrong about that. His treacle-slow reactions, and puff-ball punches, showed there was a lot wrong with him in the fight. that wasn't Corrales the killer in that fight, that was a completely drained and long starved skeleton, trying to earn money to pay lawyers. T.K.Stewart, who often writes for Boxingscene wrote an article, in which he said that at the weigh-in when he saw Corrales, bones sticking out everywhere, grey complexion, and barely able to stand, he didn't need to know that he still had a couple of lbs to take off, to be convinced, there and then, that he had NO CHANCE. This even though Corrales was fancied to win, slightly more than Mayweather. Larry Merchant tells the story that just before the fight, he passed Corrales' dressing room, and there he was, stuffing himself with a huge hamburger sandwich......... I DON'T know, why boxing fans, even though they have been told the above MANY times, still seem to remain in ignorance of the true facts of the Corrales-Mayweather fight. it was a genuine mockery of the fight game. An d, as iexamined the circumstances, what I found out, sickened me. Until then, I had disliked Corrales intensely, thinking he was nothing more than a bully.

So he had problems making weight on 2001 but not in 2004. Fighters move down in weight all the time if there is a good fight waiting at the lower weights. Its not like it hasn't happened before. Doesn't mean they were not killing themselves to make the fight happen. Guys, hat actually happened was that in prison he lost much of his muscle, and fat was easier to take off. he actually got down to 128.5 for one fight, if my memory serves, but he was very badly "jobbed" in the mayweather fight. On an interview BEFORE the fight, he discussed his marital problem, and it was THEN that he said that there are two sides to the story and his wife had her own agenda. he was then asked why had he taken the fight, when he had ALREADY gone up to lightweight 6 months before. He also said that it was being very hard to make weight, but, he said, "they made me an offer I could't rerfuse. He needed the money for his legal costs, and I think he went to jail very soon after the fight, so he knew BEFORE the fight that he was going to jail. So I think the article is a little off in that respect, otherwise very accurate. At the time the v arious commentators were saying that Mayweather's "brainstrust" (as they called it) was very smart in making this important fight at just this particular time, when Corrales was ag his most vulnerable. And that's exactly what happened. He rehydrated so much, and having been just skin and bone, because he needed the money, that he suffered, in the ring from "incipient hypo- naetremia, which is caused by a big imbalance of electolytes. This killes several agthletes each year, often racing cyclists, who drop down by the roadside and slosh in too much water, too quickly. it was obvious from the way he looked and fought, that there was something seriously wrong with him. When hit, even lightly, he collapsed each time, "in sections". I still remember that video interview, he was still much overweight, but so nattily dressed, wearing a smart, checked peaked cap,with a little moustache, he almost looked handsome. He's gone now.

I will end this thread myself.. Corrales was killing himself to make weight at 130. Coralles even gave up the belt so he can move at 135.. But at fight night, there was no indication that both fighters fought weak so I give full credit to Floyd for that win. There... If you already knew this why did you make this thread?

I hate Floyd.. but his best win (Corrales) is not tainted.

I will end this thread myself.. Corrales was killing himself to make weight at 130. Coralles even gave up the belt so he can move at 135.. But at fight night, there was no indication that both fighters fought weak so I give full credit to Floyd for that win. There...

For Corrales, it meant making the dreaded 130-pound limit one last time; one final episode of long days with only a grapefruit to eat, of jogging in rubber suits and of endless steam baths to get down to the limit. One more time, and he’d be off to the 135-pound lightweights and living fat, never having to take off those terrible final pounds again. He walked up to the scale, and the fight was, in a sense, lost right there. For all his efforts in the steam bath that morning, shedding 8 pounds, he was still 132--two pounds overweight. He went back and sucked the 2 pounds off in time for the weigh-in. A day later, his body both starved and waterlogged from his ensuing rehydration, he entered the ring--146 pounds at fight time--and the results were a disaster. http://www.newsreview.com/sacramento/content?oid=14761 Great discovery,you are so intelligent.Isnt that normal in boxing though?Fighters cant make weight and they move up.Floyd himself once gave an interview after the fight saying he couldnt make weight anymore and was moving to 140 yet he whooped everyone's ass.There's no tainting on that one

Nothing would have changed. By most accounts I have read, Floyd struggled to make 130 and 135 himself. I dont think it woulda changed the outcome, no. Maybe Chico wouldnt have bounced off the deck as often as he did, but he still gets beat imo. Just sayin, it was common knowledge he had issues leading into that fight. Also I believe Floyd asked for the fight at 130

It was well documented that he struggled to make the weight. Not to mention his other issues. Nothing would have changed. By most accounts I have read, Floyd struggled to make 130 and 135 himself.

Dude Corralles fought at 130 years after he fought Floyd. /thread Imdazed already raped you in my thread now you come in here butt naked trying to make one last stand? Cmon man. IMDAZED didnt raped me.. It was not like we were trading insults when we had the discussion. I just merely stopped because it was no longer related to the topic..

It was well documented that he struggled to make the weight. Not to mention his other issues.

You were LITERALLY just owned in the other thread. Why prolong your own damn ownage? Oh well, IMDAZED you can handle this one. What ownage. I just merely did not continue the discussion with IMDAZED because the discussion was no longer related to the topic