I love all the Flomo talk about Morales being so shot in the 2nd and third Pacquiao fights, but not the first. Meanwhile, the dude was 30, while Shane Mosley is 39 and been in just as many wars as Morales. Not only was Shane Mosley shot, he was weight-drained and over trained.
Shane Mosley was coming off a KO win over Margarito, who Pacquiao would eventually fight for some reason.
Erik Morales was ruined by Zahir Raheem. He was not the same after that fight.
Morales.
How can you be shot when you're the #3 p4p fighter at the time, super champ, and #1 ranked WW?
Mosley was coming off an impressive win while Morales was school by Rahim in 12 rounds.
Morales looked like he didn't have any legs right from the start of the 3rd fight. Shane at least looked like he had some strength vs Mayweather, but was left nervous and confused at Mayweather's speed and ability.
People are overrating Mosley "gassing out". He was out-fought and out-thought. He was clueless and left trying to think how to land something on Mayweather, as Marquez was.
Mosley came off a devastating KO win in a fight that he was a 4-1 underdog against a guy everyone believed could KO Shane, whilst Morales came off a one sided defeat before his 2nd fight with Pacquiao...come on the answer lies in those facts alone.
Everyone WANTED and DEMANDED Mayweather take the Mosley fight whereas the Pacquiao v Morales 3rd fight at least was pointless.
Its amazing that he dominates Marg. Then EVERY poster on this site except like 5 people pick Mosley to KO Berto and now Mosley mysteriously aged 10 years when Floyd whoops his ass.
+ 100 buddy
raheem was just a bad style match up for erik...shit like that happens in boxing , ..yeah, it does tell you something when pac was the only one to ever ko morales....it means he is the best morales has fought!..in the first fight, pac was badly cut in the 4rth round, that played a major role !..and , it was'nt one sided at all!
of course, the excuses are ok when its ur fav fighter. let sum1 say mayweather was injured in the 1st castillo fight and we already kno wat ppl will say...the bias on this forums is crazy. and thats from both sides. nyways, im done tlkin about this, we aint gonna convince each other and the other members of the forum have weighed in, so ill leave it at that.
huh!..this thread is about whos more shot , em or shane , aint it?......lol....dont act like floyd did'nt fight zab after getting embarrasses by fukking baldo......fukking baldomir!
ok, was zab in the twilight of his career??no1 came outta that fight sayin zab should hang them up. go watch the raheem fight. tell me morales looked like he had a lot left.
and once again i say, wtf does knockin any fighter out have to do wit nything? if anything, that makes ur argument worse, if morales hadnt previously been koed and pac does it, it tells u sumthin. he sure aint do it in their 1st fight, rite???and pac didnt get that much better in between those two fights.
pac was the only one to ever stopped morales ...29 year old em>>>>>>39 shane!
da hell does that have to do with nything. morales got embarassed by a b rate fighter in raheem. what the hell was the point of that fight?? revenge on a guy u realized had lost a step??if pac would have fought raheem would he have been accused of ducking morales??
now if floyd hadnt fought mosely, he would have been called scared a duck, etc. fluckin lose lose situation. its sad really.
reality check for all pactards and pac fans.....pacquiao ducked the version of mosley floyd fought at 147 and he was considered the most dangerous fighter in the welterweight division and to floyd by most experts......I saw what all the pactards were posting before floyd signed the fight how he was ducking mosley who was a legit WW and hard puncher.
wait...did u see the zahir raheem fight????it didnt even make sense for pac to fight morales after that. i dnt get how da hell ppl criticize floyd for fighting zab but no1 says anything about the morales fight. thats bullshit. call it like it is...too many fanboys on this site.
EK.
Erik was already shot in their first fight when he schooled Pac. Erik lost to Zahir Raheem and was weight drained against Pac in their rematch and 3rd fight.
Mosley can still beat WWs and some guys at 154.
I love all the Flomo talk about Morales being so shot in the 2nd and third Pacquiao fights, but not the first. Meanwhile, the dude was 30, while Shane Mosley is 39 and been in just as many wars as Morales. Not only was Shane Mosley shot, he was weight-drained and over trained.
proven wrong by your own poll.:nonono:
mosley - 39 yrs. old
morales - 29-30 yrs. old
mosley - 52 fights
morales - 51-52 fights
mosley - 13 yrs. pro
morales - 13 yrs. pro
pretty close i say.
Don't even need to go by that, just look at the fighter, if he looks slower, or worse or just plain helpless compared to his prime he is shot. Not really a particular formula, just look at the fighter is he as good as he had consistently been, answer? No.