Chris Byrds on negotiating with the Klitscko brothers

Money is low for HW title fight If you won you must fight the other Brother The Klitscko would be allowed a tune up, he would not If he wins both fights he get 20% of the purse in a re-match with the original brother This is fcked up. Theyve been playing the same childish games for over a decade. It sucks that a heavyweight champion was forced to rust for months on end, and treated like deer in a cage, until Wlad was good and ready for him.

you hayenuthuggers are ****in stupid... why cant you guys just admit that haye is ducking the klitschkos, when everybody ****in knows that...... and you know he is ducking the klitschkos..................... Check me previous post dumb ass, I dont give a toss about Haye you moron, Am all for the truth though and am not afraid to say it.

Ibra made $5 mln, and who said he would have to fight Vitali? He was retired by the time of Wlad vs Ibra negotiations. Where in my post did i say anything about how much they earn? And did Wlad lose to Ibra? Am sure if he had lost to Ibra then Ibra would have had to fight Vitali instead of retiring.. There was no rematch clause vs. Ibragimov and Iggy made more money vs. Wlad than in all his previous fights combined and then retired on the money. Who cares about what Ibra earned? My point still stand! Had Ibra won he would have had to fight or rematch Vitali unless Ibra was a mandatory which he wasnt, Again learn about the sport of boxing then you would know the different between a Unification and a mandatory and the power that goes with both. :footinmou

Let's also not forget one thing: ANYONE who beats a Klitschko SHOULD face the other Klitschko. Every fan would love and would demand a Wlad-beater to face Vitali. Every fan would love and would demand a Vitali-beater to face Wlad. Thus this is not only the most fan-friendly action, but also prevents a Klitschko beater to sit on his belts (that might have come due to a lucky punch) for years without facing a Klitschko again. No!!! A wlad beater should face Wlad again in a rematch not Vitali.

these are the honest reasons why i think david haye is pushing negotiations back so he can get a decent deal I agree, if any stalkers check my past posts you'll see that I think that Klitchkos are trying to treat Haye like an opponent and not a champion. Haye was unifed Cruiser champ and now WBA HW champ and should get 50/50 with them and no re-match clause. Haye is the bigger draw in the states and England and the Kilts are the draw in main land europe. If he beats Wlad then negotiate a fight with Vitali afterwards and vice versa, then that old cunt can take 40% haha and if Haye loses then tough titty, he's ****ed. But this 3 fight deal thing is bullshit.

Bullshit, it was specifically negotiated by Haye that he is getting all british generated revenue in the Klitschko fight (the one that was supposed to happen in 09) Same deal he got for the Valuev fight. Go lie somewhere else. "Once the sides agreed to look elsewhere, there were two other major issues standing in the way of the fight being made -- an agreement on how much of a cut of Haye's Setanta money Klitschko would receive and option language on Haye's future fights in the event he wins. "All of those points are solved now," Boente said. He wouldn't go into the details on how the Setanta money would be split but said, "It's a great deal for David Haye. I think it's a very fair arrangement now." http://www.boxnews.com.ua/en/news/5116/2009-04-02/W-Klitschko-Haye-agree-on-fight

Sounds like what Haye got offered as well, why would the most boring guys who can't even fight in the US on real TV or fight without having the crowd outright boo them make these kind of demands?

How come Ibragimov or Chagaev never had any problems negotiating with them? Byrd sounds very bitter. you can add Arreola to that as well he got paid very well for his fight with Vitali

Are people on here really that dim? I mean seriously. I dont care if the Klitschko's offered Haye a real slave contract, 40 acres and a mule...it doesnt matter. The all-time bitch david haye, if he thought he had any chance at beating a Klitschko would realize the contract means nothing money wise. If he beat them, which he claims he can, he would be one of the top 5 biggest names in boxing world wide. He could demand huge purses. The U.S. would embrace him becuse he looks and acts like the HW champions we know, England loves him, Germany and Eastern europe would be won over by the fact he toppled their heroes. He would be a legitimate world wide star at HW. Endorsements alone would more than pay for any 10-20% of the contract hes missing out on. Heck, can you imagine if he beat the Klits, and Adamek kept winning. How big would that be in Europe? All the decent contenders right now are a few years away, so I figure it would take Haye at this pace four years to fight 3 Klit matches and an Adamek fight. By then someone will have stepped up. Now if the Klitschko's were demanding a Joe Louis type contract where they got a percentage of future earnings...ok. But what makes Joe Louis an ATG? Because he took that contract because he wanted to be the champ. Haye's whining about 10-20% of one gate, not 20% of all of his future earnings. Look, I know Haye cant win, you know Haye cant win, Haye knows it, the Klitschko's know it, but its ridiculous to think the Klits should just hand this guy, who has done nothing but win a close decision against a circus freak and a clincher whose last meaningful fight was cheating a totally shot Andrew Golotta out of a win...and who once lost to a LHW. Why does he deserve anything? You know had he gone up and just asked for the fight, talked about being great, I think the Klits might have given him one big pay day. Instead Haye angered him, they dont want to give him millions. He hasnt proven anything at HW other than he still is easy to hit and he has even worse stamina. I dont get it. The Klitschko's are the champs. Why wont Manny Pacquiao give Paulie Malignaggi a shot and 50/50...is he scared. I mean Paulie called him a roider, come on Manny step up, pay Paulie 1/2 the purse so we can get this fight on.......Its the same damn thing. Klits are the stars, they are the attractions, and they are the champs. Haye is a cruiserweight who beat John Ruiz.......Again, the Klits are willing to fight him, there is millions more to be made if you beat the Klits than 100% of the purse. If you did beat one...and you like money and want to clear out the HW division...uhh..wouldnt the logical choice for your next fight be the other Klitschko? You know the number 1 contender, the guy with other belts, the only other giant name in the division? Oh and the fight that would pay millions and probably get a 24/7 etc... Its dumb. Haye's a coward. People whining about the contract are fools. Jackie Robinson got paid peanuts when he first broke the color barrier...but did he play anyways? hell yeah, because he knew it was important. Hayes just an all time bitch who knows he cant win so is whining about this. The Klits dont want to offer this dude tons of money though just in case Haye determines that the money is worth being punch drunk the rest of his life. Excellent post. All the Diva fans must have selective memories because wasn't it when Diva came on the scene that she screamed about fighting BOTH brothers??? There are plenty of interviews of her talking to that idiot Bunce about how she WANTS to fight both Klitschkos and that is the only way she will become the true HW champ, if she beats them both. Wasn't it Diva who signed the first contract? Wasn't it Diva who said she wasn't doing this for the money but for "the Dempseys, the Marcianos, for boxing..."? Wasn't it Diva who complained about the "slave contract" of 3 option fights and then signed a 3 option fights with Saureland? You can't tell me 3 fights with Klitschkos are worth less money than 3 fights with Valuev, Ruiz, and the Valuev again... If Diva actually beat a Klitschko, she would be in the driver's seat for the remainder of the option fights. Now the Klitschkos are not even asking for 3 options, they want one standard rematch and that's it. Oh Haye's Gayes now have a new excuse: "His wife is pregnant and he needs rest!" WTF?? Are you all serious? He can't pick up the phone? He is not going to be fighting the Klitschkos tomorrow... Besides, I guess he is not too "tired" to make negotiations with Fraudley, how does that make sense? How can he be too tired to negotiate with a fighter who is favored to beat him but all of a sudden have all the energy in the world to negotiate with the likes of Fraudley? All of Diva's fans are insane, if Diva was pissing on their face and telling them it was raining, they would believe her... Which is what she is doing basically anyway...

Byrd knows my than you and me, He was the one in the ring getting KO so stop, Go read the whole interview before you critise him..He does know what he's talking about. Yeah, he is also bitter as hell that he got whooped by Wlad so bad and lost his title to him TWICE! I just listened to the entire interview and he is bitter, he is even admitting it. In his own words about the first Wlad fight: "Yeah he beat me really bad, I was really upset about it." In his own words about the second Wlad fight: "That fight ruined me man, that fight ruined me as a fighter, I am still kicking myself about it to this day..." The FACT is that he got his biggest paydays of his entire career against the Klitschkos, also they purchased his contract away from Don King and then gave him money options on THREE of their fights!!! He made money of them even when he did not fight them!! He is still bitter that Wlad ended his title reign twice, that is the bottom line, so I wouldn't take what he says seriously. Just look at his actions instead...He fought the Klitschkos 3 times and you never heard him complain about this before. Klitschkos are smart and tough negotiators but they are not straight up thieves like Don King, their opponents wind up having the highest paydays of their careers against them. Do they stack the negotiations in their favor, sure they do, they are smart businessman but their multiple offers to Diva Haye have been more than fair. It's just that Diva is too scared to get in the ring with them and would rather milk that WBA trinket that really should belong to Wlad as long as she can.

Byrd talked about his fight against Vitali in 2000. Promoter was Universum Boxpromotion, not the Klitschko-Brothers themselves. In 2006 Byrd get 4,5 Million Dollars for the Mandatory fight against Wlad.

Its bullshit how Byrd and Sanders were forced to fight back to back tough fights, while a Klitschko can choose a tune-up in the interim. You are not rewarded for beating a Klitschko, you are contractualy put on ice until the other brother gets ready for you. These scumbags might as well be staging 2-on-1 boxing matches.... I applaud Booth and Haye for telling these bastards to buzz off. If they want tag team matches they can go to WWE.

What bitterness got to do with this? Am sure chagaev/ibra had the same contract especially the fight my brother rematch. Maybe, one thing is sure,Chagaev,Byrd and Ibra grew some balls unlike Dave.

First of all, I don't buy that "20% if he will beat both of them" crap. Second, even if this existed, that wasn't Klitschko decision but Klaus Peter Kohl's. Third, who said that was the case in Haye's contract? And fourth, he was offered TWO options contract according to Boente. Haye prefered THREE options contract to Sauerland Event and Valuev fight, and was pretty happy about it. The Klitschko's were going to to get everything even a share of the UK revenue money and Haye was left with just a share of the UK money. He will have got a much better split for fighting Valuev.

It doesnt matter what clauses were in the contract Haye signed and then pulled out, no one forced him to sign.

The Klitschkos were nobodies in 2000 (when Byrd fought Vitali). You think Kohl gave a shit about what the Klits said? The Klits went through a lengty series of lawsuits with Kohl to get out of their contract in 2003/2004. They weren't nobody. In 2000 they had already caught the eye of HBO across the pond, not an easy thing to do for European heavyweights. Are they as big as they are now? Of course not but they were not nobodies.

Again, why would Byrd bullshit about it? The Klitschkos could have told Kohl to put in in their contracts, it's not unprecedented, every fighter has different demands.The Klitschkos were nobodies in 2000 (when Byrd fought Vitali). You think Kohl gave a shit about what the Klits said? The Klits went through a lengty series of lawsuits with Kohl to get out of their contract in 2003/2004.

are any of you at the negotiating table? No,probably not so all you guys are doing is speculating....I remember speculating haye vs Harrison before prizefighter...you all thought I was crazy....no one knows unless you actually seen the contract & all else is just here say!

Byrd made $2 million in the 2nd fight.his purse was talked about on the broadcast.it was byrd biggest payday ever...even Byrd was champ he got kinda lowballed by king.his fight vs golota,Byrd was champ got $400000 while golota got like $3 million...Byrd was trying break off his contract following this fight....king told Byrd" did you think this soldout arena full of polish is here to see you chris?" king had a point! Its no surprise the klits make tough contracts but they are the cash cows now so until someone beats them....

Yeah, yeah the Klitschkos put slave contracts, yet Ibragimov, Chagaev, Sam Peter and a bunch of other guys have had no trouble negotiating with them. Byrd was the champion both times he faced Wlad and he wants us to believe he only made 20% of the purse? Yeah, I totally believe it, if you do too I have a bridge I want to sell you guys :rofl: