There's an interview on ESPN home page. If you fast forward to the last ten minutes they talk boxing. He makes some good points.
Keep in mind this is the owner of UFC and he's basically saying when any guy can determine the drug testing it's a big problem. That Pac should keep his stance on principle alone.
Of course this turns into an MMA hate thread. Stop being ignorant for once ****ers.
He said Pac should do it on principle. Which makes sense. He's saying no one man should be above a commission.
I think he said something like "if I'm Pac I'm saying Floyd has to get 5 enemas a week for the fight."
Blood testing aside (I'm down with that though more than one blood test pre fight seems overkill) no fighter should be able to make his own rules like that.
Josh Barnett
Chris Leben
Royce Gracie
etc....
Owned.
MMA is a younger sport, that doesn't mean guys aren't using it.
Fernando vargas
Shane mosley
James Tony
Etc...
Owned asshole!
All your statements prove is that Mixed Martial Artists are just as likely as boxers to be taking steroids. If you hate MMA thats fine but don't think that distorting the truth somehow makes boxing better because it isn't.
Plus if you had a real beef with PED's why don't you mention the NFL. The ammount of players that have been caught using PED's is a hundred times larger than all the the UFC fighters that have been caught.
It's funny how you fuks fabricate all kinds of nonsense just because you don't like a sport. Shit I hate Baseball and Basketball and you dont see me talking shit about those sports do you?
+1 dana would lose half of the UFC fighters to better drug testing.
And what evidence has been show that some how justifies this moronic opinion.
Or are you just saying it because well you don't like MMA and all the other knownothings on this board are saying too?
so becuz it cost prohibitive means its worthless? :thinking:
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lol! U almost had me there for a sec.
When did I say it's worthless? What I am saying is that is highly unlikely it well ever get implemented as full time testing when it's so expensive, who the fuk is gonna pay for it?
It's called being realistic if it was affordable Im sure it would of already been in use by all the commissions and I would have no problem with that.
Stupid and wrong! Sylvia left the ufc on his own terms after dominating top 3 heavyweight Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira until getting choked out.
Sylvia was alot healthier against Mercer than he was against Couture.No serious back injures there.
This whole stance issue is a myth used by MMGAY fans to excuse the poor technique of their hero's striking.
Sylvia wasn't exactly popular in fact he was pretty much hated by everyone including Dana White so this whole he a hero shit is just stupid. But you are missing the point about the Mercer Kimbo fight. Kimbo was a rudementery Mixed Martial Artist who had just as much training as Mercer did in fact Mercer had more traing and was better prepared for the fight due to his long boxing career. My point is even Kimbos half assed skills were able to dominate Mercers Boxing stance. He had no chance in hell against Kimbo and that more than proves that the Boxing stance doesn't work. And you act like a win or two somehow equals a successful career in Mixed Martial arts well there are plenty of Mixed martial artists that have a couple wins in pro boxing, does that mean they are successful boxers then?
Dana White's stance makes sence with what benefits him, plus he likes to stick it to Floyd. UFC is probably better capitilaized to do OST than boxing, it is also probably easier to accomplish considering how he controls fighters but at the low end of the sport (not UFC) I could understand OST hurting that.
And is money gonna magically fall from the sky to pay for "your" way of finding out.
so becuz it cost prohibitive means its worthless? :thinking:
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lol! U almost had me there for a sec.
Dana White is a pactard deep inside when his ufc guys arnt around
No he is just negative to anything that is controversial in boxing , he should clean up his own backyard .
It just shows how ass backward these stupid fuks are and how logic never enters the picture for them.
Just making blanket accusations about everyone proves just how stupid this whole ordeal is.
I know thats why i wanna blow my brains out trying to have legitimate conversations with people here.
Most posters here don't know how to debate or have decent conversations here the only thing they know is how to talk shit.
Josh Barnett
Chris Leben
Royce Gracie
etc....
Owned.
MMA is a younger sport, that doesn't mean guys aren't using it.
The funny thing is MMA is not even young, it's been around for at least 20 years. It just didn't get popular till around 2004 or 2005.
It has already peaked since UFC 100 and will probably be unheard of in the next 5 years
There's an interview on ESPN home page. If you fast forward to the last ten minutes they talk boxing. He makes some good points.
Keep in mind this is the owner of UFC and he's basically saying when any guy can determine the drug testing it's a big problem. That Pac should keep his stance on principle alone.
I support Manny's decision 100% as well. It's his choice because it's not something required. He has done his part by going by the commission rules and if he feels that is enough or if he feels like going a little out of his way to make the fight happen, e.g. accepting OST with a cut off date, again that's his personal choice.
With that said Floyd has every right to protect himself and ask for additional testing. The simple concept that most on here can't grasp is while Floyd does have that right, people aren't required to accept....esp. since they are required by the sanctioning bodies and commission.
"Rumored" is the key word unlike the boxing world where lots of boxer have actually been "caught"!
Josh Barnett
Chris Leben
Royce Gracie
etc....
Owned.
MMA is a younger sport, that doesn't mean guys aren't using it.
Two of his biggest draws(GSP and Brock) have been rumored to be HGH user for years now. No surprise.
"Rumored" is the key word unlike the boxing world where lots of boxer have actually been "caught"!
Sylvia himself got ran out of the UFC for being so terriable in the ring that he is now forced to take fights with Strongest Man competitors, Seriously the guy is a joke and if the boxing stance works so well in the UFC then where are all the people that are using it? Where are all these boxers you say could dominate the sport with it?
Stupid and wrong! Sylvia left the ufc on his own terms after dominating top 3 heavyweight Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira until getting choked out.
Sylvia was alot healthier against Mercer than he was against Couture.No serious back injures there.
This whole stance issue is a myth used by MMGAY fans to excuse the poor technique of their hero's striking.
Pac and Floyd are both a bunch of divas. To deny us the biggest fight of our generation would be a travesty of epic proportions. **** EM BOTH.
Agree with this.
90% of them are on roids I bet. You hear about them getting "injuries" in camp so they have to pull out of a fight. What's really happening is they are pissing hot.
And again show me proof instead of a bunch of hot air.
Watch let me show you how dumb you sound.
"I bet forza takes steroids, i don't have any proof but I still think it's true".
see how stupid you sound?
I could care less about the little overrated tosspot.what does Malignaggi punching like a girl have to do with the vast majority of MMGAY fighters having glass jaws?
first round knockouts are very common in MMGAY and happen all the time,even at the top level.first round knockouts at a world class level are very rare in boxing.
Ugh kicks, knees, elbows, smaller gloves they are all allowed in MMA. Obviously you are not taking that into consideration and what I'm pointing out to you is that even a feather fisted puncher like pauli can knock a pro boxer out so what exactly can you base your observation off of. One little clip on you tube? Seriously man you can hate MMA all you want I could care less but pulling statistics out of your ass that don't exists and making stupid comments without a shred of evidence just makes you look like a fool.