Watching the Hbo ppv, Emanuel steward noticed Mosely had to use the Gloves mayweather chose for him before the start of the fight.
Plus the fact that Mosely wasn't even been able to break in his new Grant gloves(pillow Gloves, the one with more padding in the knuckles were boxers like floyd use coz of his brittle hands) during training is a bad thing going to a fight.
A fighter should be using his choice of gloves as a tennis player or a golfer should be using their choice of racket or golf set, but agian mayweather who is so good at getting all the advantage for him made Mosely wear Grant gloves. Which we know damn well isn't his gloves of choice.
Imagine if it was the punchers gloves Cleto Reyes ( punchers gloves/fighters gloves ) that caught mayweather head with that big right Mosely threw.
Yup, it could have been lights out mayweather.
But we all know mayweather won't fight if the advantages is stacked against him right?
He always seems to get the advantage to all fighters.
In this fight, he made mosely use his choice of gloves, allowed him to fight him @ almost 39 years of age, made him draw blood even if he has taken the same blood test but damn his younger right and he is still no prune like Mosely who is almost 39 years old, surely he gets more affected losing blood than him..
So imagine that, everything was stalked up against shane and shane almost knocked him out on the 2nd.
It's not hard to believe a prime shane would have finished the job for sure when he threw that big right on the 2nd round with a Cleto Reyes gloves with less padding in the knuckle area. It should have been a different story.
It could have been lights out for floyd. for sure!
Floyd has the habit of not fighting fair to anyone.
Just how Mayweather is really.
Take out his advantages Mosely would have finished him off. :fing02:
Bottom line, Mayweather made Mosely choose his brand of gloves.
When we know to well cleto reyes gloves is Mosely's Gloves, the fighters gloves which he should have worn that night.
Do you see a tennis player let there opponents choose their racket?
Do you see a race car driver let there opponent choose there car?
Do you see a billiard player let his opponent choose his cue stick?
But of course mayweather won't allow that to happen. He wants all the advantage for himself going into a fight even if he is already fighting an almost 39 year old prune.
If you believe in youself let your opponent use his own gear. And fight fair.
IF your are the man and your confident with your abilities man-up and fight fair.
If your great meet the challenge fair and square, if you win you get respect and you will be highly regarded.
And we know to well Grant ain't Mosely's choice of gloves. Its Cletto Reyes :fing02:
Its all about Fair game and sportmanship :boxing:
I'll ask you this question? If it doesn't matter what gloves you wear in a fight, why then did mayweather not allow Mosely to use CLeto Reyes his favorite brand?
Binggo! coz it really makes a difference.
Its pretty obvious that mosley has used the reyes gloves extensively in the past and posters are telling us that he had a choice of grants or everlasts for this fight but that doesnt touch on the core issue of the thread and so nothing is debunked as people are continually saying?? Unbelieveable
Until we find out for sure if the reyes gloves were on or off the table nothing is debunked as far as i can see
I cant for the life of me see what the harm is in asking the question, surely its relevant, different gloves have different characteristics and if a certain glove is off the table for the fight, its news imo, especially if its the glove that has obviously been used regularly by the fighter in the past
Especially as floyd himself has complained many times about the gloves de la hoya made him wear, did he do something similiar? I dont know but im sure we will find out one way or the other
they were on the table
he chose not to use them at all. His team's words not mine
and also
if this was really about Floyd forcing him not to wear a certain style of glove why do Judah Baldomir Marquez and Hatton all wear different gloves than Floyd in their fights?
in fact, didn't Marquez wear the dreaded Reyes glove?
it's grasp at straws that the TS didn't think anyone would call him on.
In this fight, he made mosely use his choice of gloves, allowed him to fight him @ almost 39 years of age, made him draw blood even if he has taken the same blood test but damn his younger right and he is still no prune like Mosely who is almost 39 years old, surely he gets more affected losing blood than him..
Bottom line, Mayweather made Mosely choose his brand of gloves.
I'll ask you this question? If it doesn't matter what gloves you wear in a fight, why then did mayweather not allow Mosely to use CLeto Reyes his favorite brand?
actually it wasn't a white flag...
it's more about you more or less wanting nothing more than to shit on Floyd rather than listen to logic even when someone who represents one of the gloves Shane was thinking about using told you he specfically chose Grants to wear for his fight
and by the way THIS was your original stance. Funny how it changes over this thread the moment you get debunked.
that's your game you won't listen to anyone else telling you with facts that indeed he chose Grants, largely based on the comfort he felt and Naazim telling him these were the best gloves for Shane
and here is another thing
1. you said he was forced to wear Grants- been disproved so then you moved to.....
2. you said he didn't have an option of wearing a puncher's glove- again disproved so now it has to specific....
3. you said he could not wear Reyes gloves- yet to be proven by you that's indeed what happened. No link no video of him saying he could not wear reyes etc etc
you continue to harp on him not having the option to wear a puncher's glove
he had the choice, he chose not to.
it's a shame that you are pegged for nothing more than a Floyd hater I mean it's kind of weak to come on a board about boxing and focus solely on one aspect of a great sport.
so show us where Shane tells everyone he could not wear Cleto Reyes
please so that way I can call his team on it.
Its pretty obvious that mosley has used the reyes gloves extensively in the past and posters are telling us that he had a choice of grants or everlasts for this fight but that doesnt touch on the core issue of the thread and so nothing is debunked as people are continually saying?? Unbelieveable
Until we find out for sure if the reyes gloves were on or off the table nothing is debunked as far as i can see
I cant for the life of me see what the harm is in asking the question, surely its relevant, different gloves have different characteristics and if a certain glove is off the table for the fight, its news imo, especially if its the glove that has obviously been used regularly by the fighter in the past
Especially as floyd himself has complained many times about the gloves de la hoya made him wear, did he do something similiar? I dont know but im sure we will find out one way or the other
you are full of shit....when you have some proof then you can post.....you will do anything to make floyd look worse. sorry that you hate him so much but he has never lost and has been completely dominant since he came back. suck it dumbass! you spam the boards with your useless posts with opinions disguised as facts.
Correction, logical post is more like it =)
And your such a whiner and a flomo who keeps on going back to this thread to protect your flomo fighter.:439:
watch mosely's previous fights, or check the posted pictures of mosely's fights here you can truly see he loves Cleto Reyes.
Ask you this question why was he given a choice between Grant and Everlast? where is the Cleto Reyes there?
As both Golden Boy fighter do you think Richard Schaefer will allow Floyd to look like a pussy?
I'll ask you this question? If it doesn't matter what gloves you wear in a fight, why then did mayweather not allow Mosely to use CLeto Reyes?
Tell you man Floyd to Man-up and fight fair next time.
Boxing is a sport. It's calls sportsmanship and fair game.
Floyd chose the gloves for him. end of story.:thumbsdow
you are full of shit....when you have some proof then you can post.....you will do anything to make floyd look worse. sorry that you hate him so much but he has never lost and has been completely dominant since he came back. suck it dumbass! you spam the boards with your useless posts with opinions disguised as facts.
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1. Floyd is not GBP fighter he uses there license sinceVegas doesn't recognize Mayweather promotions yet.
2.Shane chose his own gloves and he's partner at GBP
3. as for sportmanship news flash nobody believes you
Whichever way you want to spin it, Gbp is promoting his fights coz for some reasons his promotional company aren't approved yet in nevada.
So whichever you want to spin it, GBP should protect fighters they promote.:439:
Ain't no bull shit there :439:
watch mosely's previous fights, or check the posted pictures of mosely's fights here you can truly see he loves Cleto Reyes.
Ask you this question why was he given a choice between Grant and Everlast? where is the Cleto Reyes there?
As both Golden Boy fighter do you think Richard Schaefer will allow Floyd to look like a pussy?
I'll ask you this question? If it doesn't matter what gloves you wear in a fight, why then did mayweather not allow Mosely to use CLeto Reyes?
Tell you man Floyd to Man-up and fight fair next time.
Boxing is a sport. It's calls sportsmanship and fair game.
Floyd chose the gloves for him:439:
You guys must be so ****n stupid to think schaefer or Dlh will roast there own kind.
There enough evidence to back up my claims :439:
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1. Floyd is not GBP fighter he uses there license sinceVegas doesn't recognize Mayweather promotions yet.
2.Shane chose his own gloves and he's partner at GBP
3. as for sportmanship news flash nobody believes you
He used Grant because they are regarded as the best gloves in boxing
Yup Grant is regarded as the perfect gloves to support fighters who have fragile hands like the once Floyd xylocain floyd gayweather has lol
still waiting on the link bitch....where it says floyd didnt let shane use the gloves he wanted....cleto reyes or whatever shit u saying
watch mosely's previous fights, or check the posted pictures of mosely's fights here you can truly see he loves Cleto Reyes.
Ask you this question why was he given a choice between Grant and Everlast? where is the Cleto Reyes there?
As both Golden Boy fighter do you think Richard Schaefer will allow Floyd to look like a pussy?
I'll ask you this question? If it doesn't matter what gloves you wear in a fight, why then did mayweather not allow Mosely to use CLeto Reyes?
Tell your man Floyd to Man-up and fight fair next time.
Boxing is a sport. It's calls sportsmanship and fair game.
Floyd chose the gloves for him:439:
You guys must be so ****n stupid to think schaefer or Dlh will roast there own kind.
There enough evidence to back up my claims :439:
eamon already disputed everything you said dude....just drop it you look dumber with every post....mosley chose gloves on his own. IF NOT SHOW ME A LINK WHERE IT SAYS FLOYD CHOSE FOR HIM
His post:
the company I work for, Everlast, you know that um kind of big glove company was asked by Shane to design gloves for his fight May 1
we did several mock ups of what he wanted and sent him several styles for him to choose from
he initially was going to use our Mexican glove, the MX, because it had a great feel to it and reminded him of Reyes
he was not going to use Reyes for this fight his thoughts were if he was going to use a punchers glove he would rather go for our MX, with the added fact that he would be on our 100 year anniversary cover, then a company that was not going to promote him
Naazim had different ideas and had him start using Grant gloves to see if he liked them. Now Shane was told that they were going to make a special Grant glove just for him but we knew they weren't because essentially this still only have one model while we have 4.
in the end he just felt the Grants were the more comfortable glove (our MX is a pure punchers glove so it can be hard on the hands) and he felt he could still have power with them.
IMO that was a wrong assessment but in the end his choice
now I was privy to all conversations between Shane and my company, had to send plenty of gloves and equipment to Shanes camp in Big Bear etc etc
you simply have a theory and nothing more
My reply:
Haven't you realized that the real reason why he visited your company is in pursuit to find a punchers gloves similar to Cleto Reyes coz before going to your company he had an agreement with Floyd not to use Cleto Reyes. Chaching!
So the only way to solve that is to find an alternative brand that works similar to how cleto is, hence your MX.
But for some reason the everlast Mx didn't feel right for Shane and he had to go to the 2nd option which is Grant.
As you mentioned there wasn't any choosing of Cleto Reyes, He was left to decide between everlast and Grant.
Coz, that is what has been agreed upon with Floyd and Shane during negotiations, that he made mosely agree to his terms not to use his favorite Gloves "Cleto Reyes."
Want to discredit my thread ask Mosely about it and find proof. Coz your story just says he is there looking for your gloves.
Your story only strengthens my case that he had 2 options
Everlast and Grant. They can't go to the tried and tested Cleto Reyes. Which we all no is his favorite punchers gloves.
He just strengthened my case lol :439:
Your thread has been owned.... just stop already.
Not check back, Your boy just brought out his white flag :439:
His post:
the company I work for, Everlast, you know that um kind of big glove company was asked by Shane to design gloves for his fight May 1
we did several mock ups of what he wanted and sent him several styles for him to choose from
he initially was going to use our Mexican glove, the MX, because it had a great feel to it and reminded him of Reyes
he was not going to use Reyes for this fight his thoughts were if he was going to use a punchers glove he would rather go for our MX, with the added fact that he would be on our 100 year anniversary cover, then a company that was not going to promote him
Naazim had different ideas and had him start using Grant gloves to see if he liked them. Now Shane was told that they were going to make a special Grant glove just for him but we knew they weren't because essentially this still only have one model while we have 4.
in the end he just felt the Grants were the more comfortable glove (our MX is a pure punchers glove so it can be hard on the hands) and he felt he could still have power with them.
IMO that was a wrong assessment but in the end his choice
now I was privy to all conversations between Shane and my company, had to send plenty of gloves and equipment to Shanes camp in Big Bear etc etc
you simply have a theory and nothing more
My reply:
Haven't you realized that the real reason why he visited your company is in pursuit to find a punchers gloves similar to Cleto Reyes coz before going to your company he had an agreement with Floyd not to use Cleto Reyes. Chaching!
So the only way to solve that is to find an alternative brand that works similar to how cleto is, hence your MX.
But for some reason the everlast Mx didn't feel right for Shane and he had to go to the 2nd option which is Grant.
As you mentioned there wasn't any choosing of Cleto Reyes, He was left to decide between everlast and Grant.
Coz, that is what has been agreed upon with Floyd and Shane during negotiations, that he made mosely agree to his terms not to use his favorite Gloves "Cleto Reyes."
Want to discredit my thread ask Mosely about it and find proof. Coz your story just says he is there looking for your gloves.
Your story only strengthens my case that he had 2 options
Everlast and Grant. They can't go to the tried and tested Cleto Reyes. Which we all no is his favorite punchers gloves.
This is what owned him.:439: Couldn't reply back afterwards lol
spoon a guy already explained that everything you are saying is wrong....you are obsessed with discrediting floyd and you are doing a terrible job....try harder
By your guy:
the company I work for, Everlast, you know that um kind of big glove company was asked by Shane to design gloves for his fight May 1
we did several mock ups of what he wanted and sent him several styles for him to choose from
he initially was going to use our Mexican glove, the MX, because it had a great feel to it and reminded him of Reyes
he was not going to use Reyes for this fight his thoughts were if he was going to use a punchers glove he would rather go for our MX, with the added fact that he would be on our 100 year anniversary cover, then a company that was not going to promote him
Naazim had different ideas and had him start using Grant gloves to see if he liked them. Now Shane was told that they were going to make a special Grant glove just for him but we knew they weren't because essentially this still only have one model while we have 4.
in the end he just felt the Grants were the more comfortable glove (our MX is a pure punchers glove so it can be hard on the hands) and he felt he could still have power with them.
IMO that was a wrong assessment but in the end his choice
now I was privy to all conversations between Shane and my company, had to send plenty of gloves and equipment to Shanes camp in Big Bear etc etc
you simply have a theory and nothing more
By me:
Haven't you realized that the real reason why he visited your company is in pursuit to find a punchers gloves similar to Cleto Reyes coz before going to your company he had an agreement with Floyd not to use Cleto Reyes. Chaching!
So the only way to solve that is to find an alternative brand that works similar to how cleto is, hence your MX.
But for some reason the everlast Mx didn't feel right for Shane and he had to go to the 2nd option which is Grant.
As you mentioned there wasn't any choosing of Cleto Reyes, He was left to decide between everlast and Grant.
Coz, that is what has been agreed upon with Floyd and Shane during negotiations, that he made mosely agree to his terms not to use his favorite Gloves "Cleto Reyes."
Want to discredit my thread ask Mosely about it and find proof. Coz your story just says he is there looking for your gloves.
Your story only strengthens my case that he had 2 options
Everlast and Grant. They can't go to the tried and tested Cleto Reyes. Which we all no is his favorite punchers gloves.
Afterwards he couldn't get back at me. OWNED! That's what it is lol
Checkhook lol:439:
eamon already disputed everything you said dude....just drop it you look dumber with every post....mosley chose gloves on his own. IF NOT SHOW ME A LINK WHERE IT SAYS FLOYD CHOSE FOR HIM
Some people just won't accept that Mayweather is as good as he seems and the kind of gloves Mosely was wearing probably wouldn't have saved him from the ass kicking he received. The fact is Mayweather has a pretty decent chin and he won the fight, end of story. We can engage in hypothetical after hypothetical but what we're left with are simple facts. Maybe if Mosely were an inch taller, or had a longer reach, or got more sleep during his training he might have won. Maybe, maybe, maybe...
Also I don't think his fight with Mosely should be remembered for two punches he survived but rather for the dozens of clean shots he was able to land the rest of the fight. In a thirty-six minute fight Mosely was able to land two clean shots but got pummeled the rest of the way. In my way of thinking that suggests he needed a lot more going for him than a different set of gloves.
When looking back at a fight it's best to stick to reality because fantasy can take you in any bewildering direction on a whim.
Yup that's the word 'probably'. and it is safe to safe Mayweather would have 'probably' gone down on the second if Mosely was wearing his cleto reyes.
But you cannot say it won't. You can always say probably, meaning there is a chance he did or did not.
The thing is there is a chance if it was 'probably' Cleto Reyes. But he wasn't allowed by Floyd.
So Floyd won. He keeps winning. Is Floyd fair for doing that no. But he won by hook or by crook.
What he cares about is the win, even if you have to cheat your way into winning same as what he did to the extra 2 pounds he weighed with marquez.
He just wants to play dirty and fight at his own comfort and advantage.
He won't fight anyone if it was equal footing.
spoon a guy already explained that everything you are saying is wrong....you are obsessed with discrediting floyd and you are doing a terrible job....try harder
Your thread has been owned.... just stop already.
Nope, I just checked back in a few hours ago needed to sleep that's why couldn't reply, you champion is the one who got owned lol
look back he lost brah. :haha:
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