What a fight. Hard to find another fight in which a fighter literally puts every bit of energy into it, especially when he's winning the way Taylor was. I think the ref made the right call to stop the fight, but damn, what a heart breaker for Taylor. I think if he would have lightened off the gas pedal just a bit after round 9, it would not have been such a difficult fight down the stretch. Your thoughts on the fight and the decision?
Taylor had a combination of things going towards the end of the fight is the reason he lost, none of it benefited him. From his trainer from his corner telling him to win the round to getting distracted by Duva. Chavez did hit him with a monster right hand in the end after all that punishment and offensive activity. Taylor was a great fighter but he burned himself out early to top fighters
what you on about one was getting screwed, chavez had 12 rnds to take out taylor and he landed a good solid flush shot which dropped taylor but he never had taylor out on his lges, taylor got back up at the count of 6 so he should of completed the fight.... did chavez f**k taylor up of course he did but taylor got up and steele and his corrupt ass stopped him
taylor won that fight he won at least 8 to 4 rounds with the knock down 7 to 5!!! 115 - 113
taylor was the one who got screwed not chavez!
i mean screwed not judges scorecards wise but what if the ref decided nah he's out of it on his feet, but there is only 2 seconds left, so im gonna let him finish the fight. Then Chavez would've been denied a legit victory.
Like u said, Chavez had 12 rounds to leave him unfit to continue, and he used every second of those 12 rounds to do it, but he did leave him unfit to carry on in the ref's eyes, know what i mean?
Like i said, whatever the ref decides to do (assuming he thinks Taylor cant fight on) is harsh on one of them.
i'd watched the 12th round before a few times, and went on a HBO legendary nights spree the last few days and enjoyed that episode so i dl'd the fight 2 days ago.
Great fight, only the 3rd Chavez fight i'd seen in full. Loved the way he fought, and Taylor was VERY impressive too.
Im in 2 minds about the stopage, on one hand its very harsh on Talyor losing like that after fighting so brilliantly, and on the other hand, if the ref says he cant continue it shouldnt matter how long is left, so if he was allowed to finish the fight then Chavez would've been hard done by.
No matter what the ref decided, one fighter was geting screwed.
btw Taylor's corner man needs shot for telling him he needed to win the last round and then distracting him when the ref was asking him if he was ok.
what you on about one was getting screwed, chavez had 12 rnds to take out taylor and he landed a good solid flush shot which dropped taylor but he never had taylor out on his lges, taylor got back up at the count of 6 so he should of completed the fight.... did chavez f**k taylor up of course he did but taylor got up and steele and his corrupt ass stopped him
taylor won that fight he won at least 8 to 4 rounds with the knock down 7 to 5!!! 115 - 113
taylor was the one who got screwed not chavez!
btw Taylor's corner man needs shot for telling him he needed to win the last round and then distracting him when the ref was asking him if he was ok.
i agree. completely forgot he told him that. what a tool.
i'd watched the 12th round before a few times, and went on a HBO legendary nights spree the last few days and enjoyed that episode so i dl'd the fight 2 days ago.
Great fight, only the 3rd Chavez fight i'd seen in full. Loved the way he fought, and Taylor was VERY impressive too.
Im in 2 minds about the stopage, on one hand its very harsh on Talyor losing like that after fighting so brilliantly, and on the other hand, if the ref says he cant continue it shouldnt matter how long is left, so if he was allowed to finish the fight then Chavez would've been hard done by.
No matter what the ref decided, one fighter was geting screwed.
btw Taylor's corner man needs shot for telling him he needed to win the last round and then distracting him when the ref was asking him if he was ok.
Meldrick was a special fighter....he really had the potential to be a true great at 140-147.
One of the fastest fighters I've ever seen..maybe the fastest along with Jones Jr.
I still blame Lou Duva as I feel that Taylor was distracted by him being on the ring steps when Steele was asking him vital questions.
I also assume that Duva was involved in the decisions of Taylor's opposition and blame him for putting him in there with Terry Norris. Taylor moved up to WW and won the WBA title from undefeated Aaron Davis a year after losing to Chavez, but after that, struggled in a title defense against Glenwood Brown. Taylor was dropped twice and rocked several times. Then his management puts him in there with Norris.
i agree Duva distracted his ass. i think he could of said something to Steele but he was clearly distracted.
Steele didn't know the time left after the knock down, when Steele asked Meldrick if he was orite he didn't respond. So for that reason Richard had the right to stop the fight.
well he should with that red blinking light right behind Taylor's head lets the ref know there was 10 seconds left. still think it shouldnt of been stopped since like some said Chavez didnt have time to do anything else and since the dudes career went to a tragic end sometime after that fight. i agree with that guy on the Legendary Nights doc that Taylor should of at least been able to go on and have that win. sad what happened to Meldrick. he threw some awesome combos and loved watching his fights. yes Meldrick should of and i think he could of repsponed if he wasnt distracted but also the ref should of been aware of the time left in the fight.
To the TS, Taylor didnt respond to the ref because Taylor's cornerman jumped up on the ring and was giving him instructions. Thats why he turned his head to the side right when Steele asked him if he was alright. He was looking at what his trainer was telling him.
Yep, Duva definitely deserves his share of blame. For this fight and for the terrible decision later in Taylor's career to fight Norris at 149.
Being a fan of Taylor growing up, those two things never sat well with me.
Furthermore, Chavez-Taylor 2, which was overdue, was a competitive bout. Taylor fought fairly well for 5 rounds, but you could see the effects of each Chavez punch everytime he hit him with a hard shot. After the brutal action of the 6th round, Taylor's legs were done, and two rounds later Chavez got him out of there. Taylor still did better than expected, but in the battle of two declined fighters, Taylor had deteroriated that much more. Mills Lane was kind of harsh on Taylor IMO, I remember on one of the low blow deductions that Taylor's head was being pulled down, so it's not his fault that the punch strayed low.
To the TS, Taylor didnt respond to the ref because Taylor's cornerman jumped up on the ring and was giving him instructions. Thats why he turned his head to the side right when Steele asked him if he was alright. He was looking at what his trainer was telling him.
Yep, Duva definitely deserves his share of blame. For this fight and for the terrible decision later in Taylor's career to fight Norris at 149.
Being a fan of Taylor growing up, those two things never sat well with me.
Furthermore, Chavez-Taylor 2, which was overdue, was a competitive bout. Taylor fought fairly well for 5 rounds, but you could see the effects of each Chavez punch everytime he hit him with a hard shot. After the brutal action of the 6th round, Taylor's legs were done, and two rounds later Chavez got him out of there. Taylor still did better than expected, but in the battle of two declined fighters, Taylor had deteroriated that much more. Mills Lane was kind of harsh on Taylor IMO, I remember on one of the low blow deductions that Taylor's head was being pulled down, so it's not his fault that the punch strayed low.
To the TS, Taylor didnt respond to the ref because Taylor's cornerman jumped up on the ring and was giving him instructions. Thats why he turned his head to the side right when Steele asked him if he was alright. He was looking at what his trainer was telling him.
Yep, Duva definitely deserves his share of blame. For this fight and for the terrible decision later in Taylor's career to fight Norris at 149.
Being a fan of Taylor growing up, those two things never sat well with me.
If you can't go on.. you can't go on. no matter how much time is on the clock. You are fighting for 12 full rounds, no exception. It is heart breaking but it was the right call. If Steele would've stalled for time it would've robbed Chavez of a deserved KO because Taylor wasn't even responding and was completely out on his feet.
no exagg ped... taylor wasn,t the same... he left something in the ring 4sho... the rematch wasn,t even competitive due to the brutal part 1 of chavez vs taylor... now he may of had some wins after but, he was finished as a fighter...next...
I'm not saying he fully recovered, I agree he wasn't ever quite the same, I'm just saying he was still a good fighter for a little while afterwards. Aaron Davis was a pretty good fighter, undefeated champ, and the naturally smaller Taylor moved up and beat him.
Furthermore, Chavez-Taylor 2, which was overdue, was a competitive bout. Taylor fought fairly well for 5 rounds, but you could see the effects of each Chavez punch everytime he hit him with a hard shot. After the brutal action of the 6th round, Taylor's legs were done, and two rounds later Chavez got him out of there. Taylor still did better than expected, but in the battle of two declined fighters, Taylor had deteroriated that much more. Mills Lane was kind of harsh on Taylor IMO, I remember on one of the low blow deductions that Taylor's head was being pulled down, so it's not his fault that the punch strayed low.
You can leave something of yourself in the ring, but still be a good fighter afterwards.
no exagg ped... taylor wasn,t the same... he left something in the ring 4sho... the rematch wasn,t even competitive due to the brutal part 1 of chavez vs taylor... now he may of had some wins after but, he was finished as a fighter...next...
Steele didn't know the time left after the knock down, when Steele asked Meldrick if he was orite he didn't respond. So for that reason Richard had the right to stop the fight.
taylor left his whole career in that fight... i heard he was bleeding on the inside and pissing blood... yea, if steele hadn,t stopped it taylor would,ve won but, that fight was the end of his career period... in the rematch chavez would stop him within 4 like he did if i,m not mistaken... whenever you as a fan witness a fight that brutal then you can just believe that one fighter or both will never be the same...
This is an exaggeration. Just because you're not the same after one fight, it doesn't mean your career is totally over.
Taylor had the second best win of his career a year after Chavez. Too much punishment in fights and the gym, and a move up in weight, led to a short stay the top for Taylor. Due to his weight problems at 140, his style, and the talent level during this era at 147, he was bound to have a short stay at the top regardless.
taylor left his whole career in that fight... i heard he was bleeding on the inside and pissing blood... yea, if steele hadn,t stopped it taylor would,ve won but, that fight was the end of his career period... in the rematch chavez would stop him within 4 like he did if i,m not mistaken... whenever you as a fan witness a fight that brutal then you can just believe that one fighter or both will never be the same...
I completely disagree with the stoppage, though I know plenty support it. My problem is that I feel a ref should be aware of time, and with 2 seconds left in a fight, Taylor was in no more danger when he got up, Chavez wouldn't have gotten the opportunity to even land another punch.
Fantastic fight, really showed the mental fortitude Chavez had.