Just last year Floyd vs Marquez did 1 million PPV Buys in September. 2 months later Pac Man vs Cotto did 1.25 PPV Buys. In December the first thing Floyd said is he did those numbers all by himself and he didn't have a dance partner and Manny did (Floyd said Cotto was a huge draw). Floyd felt for that reason alone, he wasn't going to take a smaller cut of the money.
Now that Floyd numbers out did Pan Man numbers in thier next fight, he want a bigger cut of the money! But Floyd Failed to mention that Pan Man didnt have a dance partner and did 700,000 buys with no 24/7(i could be wrong but I dont remember Pac vs Clottey 24/7). Floyd had a dance partner in Mosley plus HBO 24/7 that help generate 1.4 million PPV buys. Not to mention, Marquez is a way bigger star than Clottey!
Floyd true colors are coming out!!!! He is either scared(witch I dont believe) or he trying to be a bully. Never the less, he is not being a fair negotiator!
you are just dumb as nails....pac outdid him by 150k ppv while floyd outdid pac this time by 700k ppv....big difference idiot and thats not to mention marquez has a much bigger fanbase than clottey who has basically none. This is a pathetic attempt to make floyd look bad but you are plain wrong. I think floyd should take 50/50 to make the fight happen but dumb pactards such as yourself always looking for ways to discredit him and try to point out something he is doing wrong
If Pac fought Shane and Floyd fought Clottey, you would be singing a different song! FIY, im a Floyd fan! I just call a spade a spade! It is what it is!
Just last year Floyd vs Marquez did 1 million PPV Buys in September. 2 months later Pac Man vs Cotto did 1.25 PPV Buys. In December the first thing Floyd said is he did those numbers all by himself and he didn't have a dance partner and Manny did (Floyd said Cotto was a huge draw). Floyd felt for that reason alone, he wasn't going to take a smaller cut of the money.
Now that Floyd numbers out did Pan Man numbers in thier next fight, he want a bigger cut of the money! But Floyd Failed to mention that Pan Man didnt have a dance partner and did 700,000 buys with no 24/7(i could be wrong but I dont remember Pac vs Clottey 24/7). Floyd had a dance partner in Mosley plus HBO 24/7 that help generate 1.4 million PPV buys. Not to mention, Marquez is a way bigger star than Clottey!
Floyd true colors are coming out!!!! He is either scared(witch I dont believe) or he trying to be a bully. Never the less, he is not being a fair negotiator!
you are just dumb as nails....pac outdid him by 150k ppv while floyd outdid pac this time by 700k ppv....big difference idiot and thats not to mention marquez has a much bigger fanbase than clottey who has basically none. This is a pathetic attempt to make floyd look bad but you are plain wrong. I think floyd should take 50/50 to make the fight happen but dumb pactards such as yourself always looking for ways to discredit him and try to point out something he is doing wrong
When Pac did better than Floyd in numbers last year he scream he(Floyd) did have a dance partner and Manny did! But, when he did better then PAC this year in number, now the rule don't apply to him!!! Floyd sound like a F'N female!!
Just last year Floyd vs Marquez did 1 million PPV Buys in September. 2 months later Pac Man vs Cotto did 1.25 PPV Buys. In December the first thing Floyd said is he did those numbers all by himself and he didn't have a dance partner and Manny did (Floyd said Cotto was a huge draw). Floyd felt for that reason alone, he wasn't going to take a smaller cut of the money.
Now that Floyd numbers out did Pan Man numbers in thier next fight, he want a bigger cut of the money! But Floyd Failed to mention that Pan Man didnt have a dance partner and did 700,000 buys with no 24/7(i could be wrong but I dont remember Pac vs Clottey 24/7). Floyd had a dance partner in Mosley plus HBO 24/7 that help generate 1.4 million PPV buys. Not to mention, Marquez is a way bigger star than Clottey!
Floyd true colors are coming out!!!! He is either scared(witch I dont believe) or he trying to be a bully. Never the less, he is not being a fair negotiator!
these are floyd's true colors:
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It should be 50-50, be honest guys.
- Both guys are arguably sharing p4p #1 status
- Both have huge fan bases
- Both generate good PPV figures
- Both could never make as much money in one fight without the other
NOW JUST MAKE THE DAMN FIGHT!!!!!
Agree 100%
you do realize that spending 8 million dollars on advertisement and receiving 60 million to go into the company bank account is not a failure. You should take some business and marketing classes if you ever want to further your education.
True plus i guess this guy doesnt understand that sponsors pretty much pay for all advertising expenses. I mean you dont think tecate tecate gets their name in the ring for free do you? I mean even the movie iron man 2 was on the ring posts. This fight made a lot of money.
if floyd could make money fighting anyone he would
after all he is in it for the $$$$
but he has needed oscar and mosley to come out of their rocking
chairs so that he could make some money .. mosley is probbaly
in his retirement home now enjoying his money.
tyson could fight anyone and people would watch
but maywaether ? the most excitmeneet for him is before the fight
once the fight starts its the same routine ....
floyd always needs a dance partner because his fights are boring
in fact in the mosley fight the only excitement was in round 2
and that was because of mosley ...
yeah he should lose more rounds to make his fights more exciting. maybe he should get knocked down more too.
if floyd could make money fighting anyone he would
after all he is in it for the $$$$
but he has needed oscar and mosley to come out of their rocking
chairs so that he could make some money .. mosley is probbaly
in his retirement home now enjoying his money.
tyson could fight anyone and people would watch
but maywaether ? the most excitmeneet for him is before the fight
once the fight starts its the same routine ....
floyd always needs a dance partner because his fights are boring
in fact in the mosley fight the only excitement was in round 2
and that was because of mosley ...
If oscar was in a rocking chair when floyd fought him at 154 what the hell was he when manny fought him at 147? A corpse?
I can agree with you that Pac didnt have a dance member in Clottey. But if you look at it like this.
Floyd v No Dance Partner = 1,000,000
Pac v No Dance Partner = 700,000
Floyd v Dance Partner = 1,400,000
Pac v Dance Partner = 1,200,000
Now you could argue that Pac v Clottey didnt have a 24/7, but what good would a 24/7 would have done when Clottey has no personalty and has no compelling back ground story. They still had a countdown show which compensated for the 24/7 and the big selling point of the whole event was the fact that it was taking place at the cowboys stadium.
That said the only comparison can truely be made by the opposition that they both faced.
Cotto is a bigger draw IMO than Mosley yet Floyd vs Mosley out did them by 150k
Floyd did better #s against the same opposition
Floyd >Hatton
Floyd > De La Hoya
Floyd >JMM
It should be 50-50, be honest guys.
- Both guys are arguably sharing p4p #1 status
- Both have huge fan bases
- Both generate good PPV figures
- Both could never make as much money in one fight without the other
NOW JUST MAKE THE DAMN FIGHT!!!!!
I can agree with you that Pac didnt have a dance member in Clottey. But if you look at it like this.
Floyd v No Dance Partner = 1,000,000
Pac v No Dance Partner = 700,000
Floyd v Dance Partner = 1,400,000
Pac v Dance Partner = 1,200,000
You do realized every Flyod fight they had to spent an arm and leg for all the promotions, ads, 24/7. Like the Mayweather vs Mosley which only did over 1M ppv buys and Schaffer was expecting over 3M buys since they spent so much money for the fight and it turn out to be a total failure!!!
You do realized all this ads are not free and the fight has to do really good to make up for money spent?
first of all.... Everyone is speaking off of hear say, no one from Floyd or Manny camp have come out and confirmed that Floyd wants more money now
Second of all.... Your argument is flawed because, though Clottey-Pac didn't have a 24/7 you can go back to the Cotto fight and Floyd still out sold that one as well
And lastely.... Floyd has always made it quite clear that he's all about the business and money and cares very little about legacy so he has the higher ppv numbers and history so of course he's gonna try to maximize his funds...
Soo if Manny is all about legacy like how some people claim then Floyd wanting more money wouldn't effect the negotiations at all and Manny would comply... But the fact is Manny cares about the money just as much as Floyd does
I just corrected the error I made in my thread!
I can agree with you that Pac didnt have a dance member in Clottey. But if you look at it like this.
Floyd v No Dance Partner = 1,000,000
Pac v No Dance Partner = 700,000
Floyd v Dance Partner = 1,400,000
Pac v Dance Partner = 1,200,000
Now you could argue that Pac v Clottey didnt have a 24/7, but what good would a 24/7 would have done when Clottey has no personalty and has no compelling back ground story. They still had a countdown show which compensated for the 24/7 and the big selling point of the whole event was the fact that it was taking place at the cowboys stadium.
This is fail..
Floyd fought 2 dance partners and Pac only fought 1.
Floyd also fought the #2 and #3 p4p fighters.. and had a extra 24/7 and still didnt do that much more then pac.. Both JMM and Mosley had PPV before.. and were bigger stars..
Cotto and Clottey never had a PPV before. and Cotto was ranked #5-7 on the P4P lists
Lets also not forget Pac does sell out the stadiums while Floyd cant even sell out on his home town..
first of all.... Everyone is speaking off of hear say, no one from Floyd or Manny camp have come out and confirmed that Floyd wants more money now
Second of all.... Your argument is flawed because, though Clottey-Pac didn't have a 24/7 you can go back to the Cotto fight and Floyd still out sold that one as well
And lastely.... Floyd has always made it quite clear that he's all about the business and money and cares very little about legacy so he has the higher ppv numbers and history so of course he's gonna try to maximize his funds...
Soo if Manny is all about legacy like how some people claim then Floyd wanting more money wouldn't effect the negotiations at all and Manny would comply... But the fact is Manny cares about the money just as much as Floyd does
if all manny cared about was money, than he wouldve ran into the ring with floyd back in march..no matter how much blood testing was involved..
and if floyd really wanted to fight manny, he wouldn't be setting up obstacle after obstacle for manny to overcome and agree to..
its clear as day that pac WANTS to fight floyd..otherwise he wouldn't have gone from no blood testing to 30 days to 24 days to 14 days to anyday BUT the day of the fight..its called compromising, and pac is the ONLY one doing any compromising and showing the world that he wants the fight more than floyd does..if floyd wanted the fight he would've gave in to pac..even just a little..and i'm pretty sure "pacROID" (according to floyd fans) would never agree to get tested that close to the fight if he was cheating..
but all the compromising that pac does will never show the floyd fans how much he wants the fight..people are just brainwashed i guess..
Just last year Floyd vs Marquez did 1 million PPV Buys in September. 2 months later Pac Man vs Cotto did 1.25 PPV Buys. In December the first thing Floyd said is he did those numbers all by himself and he didn't have a dance partner and Manny did (Floyd said Cotto was a huge draw). Floyd felt for that reason alone, he wasn't going to take a smaller cut of the money.
Now that Floyd numbers out did Pan Man numbers in thier next fight, he want a bigger cut of the money! But Floyd Failed to mention that Pan Man did have a dance partner and did 700,000 buys with no 24/7(i could be wrong but I dont remember Pac vs Clottey 24/7). Floyd had a dance partner in Mosley plus HBO 24/7 that help generate 1.4 million PPV buys. Not to mention, Marquez is a way bigger star than Clottey!
Floyd true colors are coming out!!!! He is either scared(witch I dont believe) or he trying to be a bully. Never the less, he is not being a fair negotiator!
cowboy stadium could be considered as the dance partner even on espn they said that anyone will sell out cowboy stadium even if they were just playin wit marbles
Just last year Floyd vs Marquez did 1 million PPV Buys in September. 2 months later Pac Man vs Cotto did 1.25 PPV Buys. In December the first thing Floyd said is he did those numbers all by himself and he didn't have a dance partner and Manny did (Floyd said Cotto was a huge draw). Floyd felt for that reason alone, he wasn't going to take a smaller cut of the money.
Now that Floyd numbers out did Pan Man numbers in thier next fight, he want a bigger cut of the money! But Floyd Failed to mention that Pan Man did have a dance partner and did 700,000 buys with no 24/7(i could be wrong but I dont remember Pac vs Clottey 24/7). Floyd had a dance partner in Mosley plus HBO 24/7 that help generate 1.4 million PPV buys. Not to mention, Marquez is a way bigger star than Clottey!
Floyd true colors are coming out!!!! He is either scared(witch I dont believe) or he trying to be a bully. Never the less, he is not being a fair negotiator!
first of all.... Everyone is speaking off of hear say, no one from Floyd or Manny camp have come out and confirmed that Floyd wants more money now
Second of all.... Your argument is flawed because, though Clottey-Pac didn't have a 24/7 you can go back to the Cotto fight and Floyd still out sold that one as well
And lastely.... Floyd has always made it quite clear that he's all about the business and money and cares very little about legacy so he has the higher ppv numbers and history so of course he's gonna try to maximize his funds...
Soo if Manny is all about legacy like how some people claim then Floyd wanting more money wouldn't effect the negotiations at all and Manny would comply... But the fact is Manny cares about the money just as much as Floyd does