I give Wlad props because, whilst he hasn't got any major scalps on his resume, he's nonetheless dominated his opposition for so long now in such impressive fashion and that I think it ultimately has to equal out any one big win. Holmes, with the exception of a faded Ali, was in a similar boat. Unfortunately, those types of fighters tend to be appreciated only after they've retired, whilst the Tysons and Bowes get immediate credit at the time of their big wins, but a lot more scrutiny later on. Bowe for example beat the great Evander twice, but he also struggled a lot against fighters he really shouldn't have and was basically beaten the snot out of twice by Andrew Golota whilst still in his twenties and retired soon after. Not that I'm disputing his quality during his brief title reign. But it's certainly an interesting question: who do you rate higher, a fighter with one or two great names on his resume but who struggled with lesser tier fighters and burned out early, or someone who took on decent but not great competition over a long period of time, never ducked anyone, and nearly always won flawlessly?
Dogshit. I could take that fat cunt on.
Just a quick question:
How do you rate James Toney? i mean if you feel like you could take on peter who beat Toney twice that must meen you could really dish it out to James??
lol,,youre so underrating chageav its not even funny. he's not a great fighter but he's damn solid and a handful for any fighter not named klitschko
True, Chags is a lot better than people give him credit for. Highly decorated amateur and very soild pro. And I don't think he won a single round against Wlad.
Please tell me this is atroll post like your pervious one about the amateurs.
Chagaev is a complete bum. Imagine what a prime Lennox, Tyson, Evander, Ali, Holmes, Foreman, Dempsey etc etc would have done to him. We're talking serious wheelchair material here.
Hell, even Hopkins and Toney could take that cunt on in prime.
lol,,youre so underrating chageav its not even funny. he's not a great fighter but he's damn solid and a handful for any fighter not named klitschko
Meaningful fights that both brothers combined have had:
1) Vitali Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis
Meaningful victories that bother brothers have had combined:
0
Not really their fault though as no-one of an elite calibre has been around.
im getting sick of that excuse... the klitschko-haters always say... "there dominating a poor division" blah blah blah
is the division poor, are they just that better then everyone else, and make them poor.....
stop trying to discredit the klitschkos.. its pathetic
The division does suck. Despite being a "glamour" division, the HW division isn't historically as talented as others IMO. Lots of champs reigned in "weak" HW eras.
But the Klitschkos would hold titles or be contenders in pretty much any era of HW boxing. It's not them, it's the rest of the division I think lowly of in terms of talent and ability.
im getting sick of that excuse... the klitschko-haters always say... "there dominating a poor division" blah blah blah
is the division poor, are they just that better then everyone else, and make them poor.....
stop trying to discredit the klitschkos.. its pathetic
I think, based on their longevity, the Klitschko's have proven themselves to elite fighters. Wladimir is a borderline Hall of Famer. It's a shame that there really isn't anyone to test him but if he keeps going like this, I think people will have no choice but to acknowledge his accomplishments.
im getting sick of that excuse... the klitschko-haters always say... "there dominating a poor division" blah blah blah
is the division poor, are they just that better then everyone else, and make them poor.....
stop trying to discredit the klitschkos.. its pathetic
Im going to ask you a serious question and be completely honest...
Can you imagine Eddie Chambers and Kevin Johnson being a top Heavyweight in any other era? Be honest with yourself.
Eddie Chambers is smaller than some 1940's heavyweights and didnt have near the power they had. The division sucks ass and the fact that the brothers are relying on a cruiserweight to make their legacy tells you all you need to know.
They are rulers of a garbage kingdom.
soir compared to wlad , haye is complete filth.....he is scared like a little girl after someone talked back to him....what hapenned to his big mouth and " I will knock out both klitschkos in 2010. keep smoking his pole and he will fight bums to reward you
They do not have 1 single hall of famer on either of their resume's.
Vitali quit against bum named Byrd, and Wladimir was waxed by a 37 year old golfer and Journeyman with a bunch of losses. If these were anomolies then Wlad shouldve avenged his losses like Lennox did, but Wlad is a bitch and its no wonder how all of his losses occured in the SUPERIOR heavyweight era.
The current era is garbage, and his resume' is garbage.
Does it hurt you much watching the Klitschkos keep dominating? Poor idiot :lol1:
in a piss poor division...this is the weakest hw era of all time when you have had champs like shannon briggs, samuel peter and oleg maskaev 2-3 years ago
to answer the question of this thread wlad's best win is chris byrd who is one of the smallest hw's of all time
naps your arguement has no validity becuase both klitschkos go the extra mile to fight the best there is in the HW division...you can say that there just arent any good heavyweights but you cant bash klits....THEY TAKE ON ANYONE AND EVERYONE. If you dont agree tell me who they havent given a chance to?
You might be right, but it's very easy to engineer someone to refuse a fight.
If I personally challenged a Klit to a fight, they would refuse as I couldn't give them a fair deal. Does that mean the Klits ducked me?
And all this talk about Haye not fighting them is tabloid speculation. The fight will happen, everyone knows it.
naps your arguement has no validity becuase both klitschkos go the extra mile to fight the best there is in the HW division...you can say that there just arent any good heavyweights but you cant bash klits....THEY TAKE ON ANYONE AND EVERYONE. If you dont agree tell me who they havent given a chance to?
Audley Harrison, clearly.
naps your arguement has no validity becuase both klitschkos go the extra mile to fight the best there is in the HW division...you can say that there just arent any good heavyweights but you cant bash klits....THEY TAKE ON ANYONE AND EVERYONE. If you dont agree tell me who they havent given a chance to?