Rumblings in the boxing world suggest that some feel Timothy Bradley is avoiding a fight with Devon Alexander at this point in time. Do you believe Bradley is actually ducking Alexander or do you tend to agree with Bradley's reasoning that they're trying to build up the fight in order to maximize the revenue?
Tim Bradley moved out of his division to fight an unknown fighter at a new weight, he has been given several opportunity's to fight Alexander and he outright refuses under any circumstances to do so, usually when someone will stop at nothing to avoid something it's refereed to as flat out ducking.
I dont like boxers who move out of there division when they have a lot to prove still at the division and it has nothing to do with making the weight. I mean he knows fighting the dude Abregu aint going to lead him to fight anyone serious like Pac and Floyd, who will go into retirement soon so that division will be a lot safer for him. Bradley will go down as pussy in boxing history if he continues his B.S.
I doubt it could lead immediately to a Pac or Floyd fight, but it's not impossible he could challenge Berto for the WBC title relatively quickly. If he can beat Berto it'll make a Pac or Floyd fight much more plausible.
Do you even know who abregu is? this guy is a joke period! Yes his a solid fighter at 147 because he has fought there at his career but he doesnt have that much power (Disregard his padded KO record), and he recently got KD by
Richard Gutierrez....The fight is only risky in the sense that in bradley loses he would love a lot financially because we know he has great future fights coming up.
of course i know who abregu, im actually surprised he still taking this fight..so which is it? he's solid but he's a joke...? cmon the fact is Bradley goes in at a disadvantage, with size power reach. Bradley is taking a risk with this fight,,the point is that he can't afford to look bad in this fight even if he wins, he has to come out impressive....
Alexander is a seasoned 140 fighter, Younger, more energic and hungrier while Campbell was only moving up to 140 at the time, way older and more worn out, Basically bradley went with the easier fight and better-known name (No problem in that) but please dont claim campbell was more dangerous to bradley than alexander would have been.
Campbell struggled to make 135 so 140 was easy for him, he was the unified champ when he faced Bradley floored Funeka twice and took the decision before facing Bradley....Everbody saying that Alexander was not ready to face Bradley, he was too green and needed a few more fights. People didn't give Alexander much of a chance to beat Bradley back then, but give him more of a chance now because he improved better and better every fight...that is why at the time Campbell was the more dangerous opponent for Bradley...
Abregu is a solid welter, has even fought above 147 at times, so you can say this is risky opponent, Abregu does have power also, A jump to 147 is a big jump for any fighter coming from 140...
Do you even know who abregu is? this guy is a joke period! Yes his a solid fighter at 147 because he has fought there at his career but he doesnt have that much power (Disregard his padded KO record), and he recently got KD by
Richard Gutierrez....The fight is only risky in the sense that in bradley loses he would love a lot financially because we know he has great future fights coming up.
Before Alexander fought Witter, there's nothing on Alexander that says he was a for dangerous opponent than Campbell...Campbell coming off a win over Funeka, far more experience and better resume than alexander,, how was Alexander more dangerous...?
Alexander is a seasoned 140 fighter, Younger, more energic and hungrier while Campbell was only moving up to 140 at the time, way older and more worn out, Basically bradley went with the easier fight and better-known name (No problem in that) but please dont claim campbell was more dangerous to bradley than alexander would have been.
You're not saying with a straight face that this Arbegu guy or whatever his name is is a tougher fight than Alexander are you?
Abregu is a solid welter, has even fought above 147 at times, so you can say this is risky opponent, Abregu does have power also, A jump to 147 is a big jump for any fighter coming from 140...
yes he is period. Devon wants the fight but bradley don't it's clear as day. Yall be killing me with that big payday excuse. Non of them are big enough to get more than a mil & it'll be a long time before they are. Why not make the fight while both are young & still have that 0 b/c as soon as one of them lose the other has another reason not to fight? Both are free & both should be willing but bradley isn't.
Thats the thing, Both fighters are in the same Pay group right now. Bradley isnt some money making machine nor does he generate any sort of PPV audience, No way would either Hatton,JMM or even Pacquiao fought him after he fought holt, it doesnt matter if Hatton and Pacquiao were number 1 and 2 in the WBO ranking non of those two would have risk fighting him.
Please dont insult our intelligence, Campbell a more dangerous opponent at the time? NO! Bigger name yes but Bradley duck alexander and even drop his belt after promising to defend it if the WBC allows him to unificate the WBO belt with Holt.
Funny thing is nobody knew who bradley was if he wasnt a mandatory himself in getting his opportunity against Witter and then he turned around and duck his own mando.
Before Alexander fought Witter, there's nothing on Alexander that says he was a for dangerous opponent than Campbell...Campbell coming off a win over Funeka, far more experience and better resume than alexander,, how was Alexander more dangerous...?
You're not saying with a straight face that this Arbegu guy or whatever his name is is a tougher fight than Alexander are you?
People would say anything to justify their claims, Fact is what Bradley did with alexander is worst than what Khan did with Maidana.
yes he is period. Devon wants the fight but bradley don't it's clear as day. Yall be killing me with that big payday excuse. Non of them are big enough to get more than a mil & it'll be a long time before they are. Why not make the fight while both are young & still have that 0 b/c as soon as one of them lose the other has another reason not to fight? Both are free & both should be willing but bradley isn't.
I would be a duck if he was taking an easier fight for him but I think Abregu is a risky proposition.
If Khan had fought someone with pop instead of Paulie I don't know if he would have been criticized so harshly.
You're not saying with a straight face that this Arbegu guy or whatever his name is is a tougher fight than Alexander are you?
Bradley wanted to fight Pac and Hatton, read this:
There’s no point in keeping the WBC, because the money that Bradley would make in fighting Alexander is nothing compared to the kind of cash he would get in facing either Pacquiao or Hatton. Even if Hatton and Pacquiao never do decide to fight Bradley, he’s still better off keeping the WBO title because the number #3 challenger is Victor Ortiz, a fighter that is easily more popular than either Alexander or Witter.
Ok, that's understandable.
I still think he should fight now rather then later. The fight is not going to be that big anyway. Khan or maybe Ortiz is the ones they could seriously get some attraction off.
They should be fighting each other now in order to get a shot at Khan, from a financial perspective.
At the time Alexander was
1) too green
2) unknown
3)not a big draw
Nate Campbell
1) unified champ (135)
2) bigger name
3) experienced
4) bigger draw= more money
You can't criticize Bradley for taking the Nate fight...Nate by far was the obvious choice and considered a more dangerous opponent than alexander...
You cannot say the same for Khan
Please dont insult our intelligence, Campbell a more dangerous opponent at the time? NO! Bigger name yes but Bradley duck alexander and even drop his belt after promising to defend it if the WBC allows him to unificate the WBO belt with Holt.
Funny thing is nobody knew who bradley was if he wasnt a mandatory himself in getting his opportunity against Witter and then he turned around and duck his own mando.
Bradley wanted to fight Pac and Hatton, read this:
y Jim Dower: The World Boxing Council has stripped unbeaten WBC light welterweight champion Timothy Bradley (24-0, 11 KOs) for reportedly not facing his WBC number #1 ranked challenger Devon Alexander. However, Bradley, 25, sent in an e-mail earlier today to the WBC, telling them that he’s vacating the WBC title because the WBC was telling him to choose between keeping either the WBC or WBO light welterweight titles. It seemed like an easy choice for Bradley to make.
The number #1 and #2 challengers in the WBO are Manny Pacquiao and Ricky Hatton, whereas the number #1 and #2 challengers for the WBC are Devon Alexander and Junior Witter. With those kinds of fighters just below him, which belt would you choose to keep?
There’s no point in keeping the WBC, because the money that Bradley would make in fighting Alexander is nothing compared to the kind of cash he would get in facing either Pacquiao or Hatton. Even if Hatton and Pacquiao never do decide to fight Bradley, he’s still better off keeping the WBO title because the number #3 challenger is Victor Ortiz, a fighter that is easily more popular than either Alexander or Witter.
Bradley has already beaten Witter by a 12-round split decision last year in May 2008, and Alexander wouldn’t be an interesting opponent due to his nonexistent power and his dull manner of fighting. Bradley would likely beat both Witter and Alexander, yet receive only a fraction of the money he’ll get if he can get Hatton or Pacquiao in the ring with him.
With the WBC title now free and up for grabs, Bradley and Alexander will now fight it out for the vacant title. Both fighters are talented but badly flawed, so it’s hard to pick a winner of the two. Alexander fights poorly at a distance and seems to be at his best on the inside.
However, he has no power and has fought mediocre opposition up to this point in his early career. For his part, Witter, 35, has the better overall skill by far. However, he’s starting to show his age in the past couple of fights and doesn’t move or punch as fast as he used to.
If this fight were to have taken place three years ago, I’d have picked Witter by a lopsided 12 round decision. But, now that he’s a little bit older, slower and more of a stationary target, I think he’ll struggle to beat Alexander.
I still think he’ll have too many skills for Alexander, but it will be a close victory with Witter tiring out in the 2nd half of the fight. I can’t see either fighter holding onto the title for long, because fighters like Nate Campbell and Randall Bailey are looming in the background and I see both of them as better fighters than Alexander and Witter.
I think Witter might be better off if he focuses his energy on the local British boxing scene where he can probably extend his career for another five years beating the mostly soft opposition there.
http://www.************.com/2009/04/news-bradley-vacates-wbc-title/
actually Bradley was a considered opponent for pac when floyd and pac fell apart in Feb..., Bradley tried very hard to get that fight with pac.. but he choose to fight Clottey instead and left the 140 division...This is the reason why i feel bradley is trying to make a name for himself in the 147, he feels a fight with pac or floyd is reachable in the future
I think Bradley or his team want to build the fight to maximise it for the forseeable future while Alexander and his team want the fight now, But the way Bradley dropped his WBC belt when Devon was his mandatory after saying he would fight him made me think he doesnt want the fight. So yes i do think Bradley is ducking Alexander not scared but he only wants the fight when he knows it would be worth it.
lol so its ok for Bradley to avoid Alexander to fight amore well known and money fight in Campbell but not for Khan to take on Paulie for the exact same reasons???
anyway Bradley gave up his belt, straight up duck, there is no two way about it.
Khan will fight Maidana, sometime after the footballl world cup
At the time Alexander was
1) too green
2) unknown
3)not a big draw
Nate Campbell
1) unified champ (135)
2) bigger name
3) experienced
4) bigger draw= more money
You can't criticize Bradley for taking the Nate fight...Nate by far was the obvious choice and considered a more dangerous opponent than alexander...
You cannot say the same for Khan
actually its exactly a duck.
he vacated his belt so there was no obligation to fight Alexander.
its a duck, no two ways about it.
if khan gave up his belt to fight a nobody at 140lbs so he wouldnt have to fight Maidanna and said he was only doing it to make more money, you would be calling him a ducker.
Bradley would make more money fighting Alexander then whoever the guyhe's fighting at 147lbs.
straight up a duck, must be relates to Mayweather
Your right, I never thought of that. Alexander was his no.1 contender after the Holt fight for his WBC belt, which he dropped and went on to fight Campbell for the WBO instead.
Maybe it was a financial thing and sanctioning fees were less and Campbell brought in money, but tbh it doesn't look good.
At the time no one knew who Alexander was...Nate Campbell was the unified champion at 135 and everybody considered him a more dangerous opponent than Alexander...Nate was far more known and was offered more money, it was an obvious choice for Bradley...on the other hand.. Khan didn't want to fight Maidana for what reason but took on lesser dangerous feather fisted fighter...its a different situation IMO
lol so its ok for Bradley to avoid Alexander to fight amore well known and money fight in Campbell but not for Khan to take on Paulie for the exact same reasons???
anyway Bradley gave up his belt, straight up duck, there is no two way about it.
Khan will fight Maidana, sometime after the footballl world cup
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