If a "roided" Pacquiao got outboxed by Marquez twice...

pacquaio has blood taken out before the hatton fight on 24/7 so what is he going to use steroids for only 14 daysThat is the whole point. A testing cutoff of 14 days is not designed to catch a cheater, but to prevent the cheating from taking place at all.

remember pacquiao got knocked out twice at 112 pounds he had a 50% ko ratio at 130 and now has an 80% ko ratio at 135-147 so i do think its strange that both pacquiao's power and speed went up because when mayweather went up to 147 and 154 he didn't take his power with him and even though he is still fast he is not as fast as he was at 140 and 135 and mayweather moved up gradually over years pacquiao did it in a year i don't think it's ignorant to think PEDS were involved so mayweather just wants to make sure he is clean and the fight is fair and add on the fact pacquiao won't submit to random blood and drug tests makes you wonder and grow more suspicious

:lol1: so the haters now think that Pacquiao started roiding since David Diaz

PEDS such as EPO and Anti-Myostatin allow you to train harder, longer and more often while recovering faster. This enables the user to work more in the gym to learn what he needs to learn. Contrary to what many people seem to think, they do not help you on the night of the fight, as they are not a stimulant. When they are cycled during training is when they are effective. I do not know if he is 'roiding or not, but in the age of sports that we are in, can we be 100% certain that somebody is not 'roiding? pacquaio has blood taken out before the hatton fight on 24/7 so what is he going to use steroids for only 14 days

Keep up, Pac didn't start roiding until he fought the immortal David Diaz. Dumb ass. so why there's no steroid talk after he beat David Diaz?

Floyd is gonna retire again and Pac is fighting Margarito anyways so why still talk about a fight that isn't gonna happen? We all know the outcome....years from know we all know who will get blamed. Mayweather for bringing up the issue, people are gonna thin he was scared

how does peds help u gain a right hand or improve footwork or allow u to follow a gameplan. we all knew pac had the narural abilities to fight that way but it took work and effort ro get to where he is now. like i keep telling people if peds really drastically change a fighter then how come theirs not many fighters around that are on pacs level. You would think if these drugs were so available we would see fighters performing at a an elite level like pac.PEDS such as EPO and Anti-Myostatin allow you to train harder, longer and more often while recovering faster. This enables the user to work more in the gym to learn what he needs to learn. Contrary to what many people seem to think, they do not help you on the night of the fight, as they are not a stimulant. When they are cycled during training is when they are effective. I do not know if he is 'roiding or not, but in the age of sports that we are in, can we be 100% certain that somebody is not 'roiding?

...then what's troubling Floyd from fighting Manny without OST? I really didnt want to go here yet again but, Pac was not on anything in those fights. Like at him them compared to now...

how does peds help u gain a right hand or improve footwork or allow u to follow a gameplan. A-side meth does all that, bro. It's a miracle drug from the Philippines. True story.

I don't know but I know Shane took the test and we knew he was clean when he fought Floyd and if Pacquiao would takes the test then we will know he is clean to Actually, we don't. Not even OST catches everything, like SARMs for example. There's no test today that detects those substances, as far as I know. And, if he was benefiting from PED use earlier on (which is likely) then why shouldn't that count as dirty? I thought that was the problem, that Floyd's opponents might be benefiting from PEDs?

lol I always do my homework buddy and yes i did watch that fight and I think Pacquiao is a diffrent fighter now but hey everybody in entitled to their own opinion and in mines ever since the David Diaz fight Pacquiao has been a totally diffrent fighter but you can have your opinion to how does peds help u gain a right hand or improve footwork or allow u to follow a gameplan. we all knew pac had the narural abilities to fight that way but it took work and effort ro get to where he is now. like i keep telling people if peds really drastically change a fighter then how come theirs not many fighters around that are on pacs level. You would think if these drugs were so available we would see fighters performing at a an elite level like pac.

i beg to disagree with your statement that cotto's power is overrated. but i do see your point. that's is why merchant once said pac is a victim of his own success. i don't know if have read that one, but he reasoned there that pac's achievement lately has never been done before that is why he is greatly suspected. in my opinion, pac became a beast since he was approaching or he's body already primed and he is at his perfect weight class. pac used to weigh 145-150 normally. he cuts weight up to 130 lbs during fights and then rehydrate up to 146 lbs. basing to all the facts, reducing much weight causes you a lot, you'll either be weight drained or you'll have lesser punch resistance. now, pac doesn't have to do that... he just have to train hard and eat all that he can. ariza also had made a lot good work, since he applied the thing "plyometrics" or something like that. idk what its name. where in it is proven scientifically to be wonderful. higher weight, while maintaining speed and gaining power. i respect your opinion, but i do believe pac is not on something... and i guess i'll argue with you any day of the week if you allow me to explain.. I respect your opinion to I respect everybodys opinion im just a boxing fan that wants what everybody else wants to see Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Manny Pacquiao but I just want both fighters to be clean when they fight thats all

Shane was "dirty". You'll still benefit from steroids etc years after you took them. I don't know but I know Shane took the test and we knew he was clean when he fought Floyd and if Pacquiao would takes the test then we will know he is clean to

this comment is factually wrong. Did you watch the pac-barrera fight? Isn't this the fight when the world took notice and propelled Manny into the popular scene. Watch some fights and do your homework before you start with this babble lol I always do my homework buddy and yes i did watch that fight and I think Pacquiao is a diffrent fighter now but hey everybody in entitled to their own opinion and in mines ever since the David Diaz fight Pacquiao has been a totally diffrent fighter but you can have your opinion to

thats the thing Floyd is not going to fight him if he is on roids it doesn't matter if he feels he can beat him or not Floyd is not fighting any dirty fighters whoever Floyd fights next they are gonna have to take the test it don't matter if its Pacquiao or not Shane was "dirty". You'll still benefit from steroids etc years after you took them.

pac was outboxed by jmm even if he is roided..until he fight a boxer like jmm u cannot tell that pac had improved cuz of roids.. thats the thing Floyd is not going to fight him if he is on roids it doesn't matter if he feels he can beat him or not Floyd is not fighting any dirty fighters whoever Floyd fights next they are gonna have to take the test it don't matter if its Pacquiao or not

Pac vs Mayweather I : Boxing match w/ OST Pac vs Mayweather II: MMA match w/ OST Pac vs Mayweather III : Volley ball w/ bikinis

Pac wasn't fighting the way he is now back then. It wasn't until the David Diaz fight where there was a drastic change in Pacquiao performance this comment is factually wrong. Did you watch the pac-barrera fight? Isn't this the fight when the world took notice and propelled Manny into the popular scene. Watch some fights and do your homework before you start with this babble

no i havn't really seen him get hit that hard to say if his chin is good or not and I thought Cotto power was overrated but just Manny speed, power and workrate is just not natural and I don't see how he has improved that much this late in his career while moving up in weight not saying its not possible its just never been done Like usually you lose power when you move up because the bigger guys can take a better punch but he is over powering the bigger guys while keeping his speed and throwing all those punches it just seems like to me something is giving him that extra boost of energy because what he is doing is not normal i beg to disagree with your statement that cotto's power is overrated. but i do see your point. that's is why merchant once said pac is a victim of his own success. i don't know if have read that one, but he reasoned there that pac's achievement lately has never been done before that is why he is greatly suspected. in my opinion, pac became a beast since he was approaching or he's body already primed and he is at his perfect weight class. pac used to weigh 145-150 normally. he cuts weight up to 130 lbs during fights and then rehydrate up to 146 lbs. basing to all the facts, reducing much weight causes you a lot, you'll either be weight drained or you'll have lesser punch resistance. now, pac doesn't have to do that... he just have to train hard and eat all that he can. ariza also had made a lot good work, since he applied the thing "plyometrics" or something like that. idk what its name. where in it is proven scientifically to be wonderful. higher weight, while maintaining speed and gaining power. i respect your opinion, but i do believe pac is not on something... and i guess i'll argue with you any day of the week if you allow me to explain..

what do you mean? pac was outboxed by jmm even if he is roided..until he fight a boxer like jmm u cannot tell that pac had improved cuz of roids..