Just because Flyod fought Mosley (past prime/16 month off) it doesnt mean Flyod has grown some balls now. Keep dreaming guys no way in hell Flyod is fighting Martinez or Williams!!!!Flyod coudnt care less about his legacy, but protecting his 0 is what matters most for him!!!
90% of of NSB said he wouldnt fight Shane.
boxingholic is so ****ing dumb----and he is making excuses again, as usual---he'd rather bash floyd, and leave manny alone----this thread is about if manny fights margarito, which has a really good chance of happening----that old, past prime mosley knocked out the guy who manny may be facing in the fall----care to comment suckaholic? i thought so you little prick----stop posting here, you're a tool----
Just because Flyod fought Mosley (past prime/16 month off) it doesnt mean Flyod has grown some balls now. Keep dreaming guys no way in hell Flyod is fighting Martinez or Williams!!!!Flyod coudnt care less about his legacy, but protecting his 0 is what matters most for him!!!
Fair points. What did Floyd big favors is how he stepped on the gas and walked Shane down in his last fight. If it doesnt crack a Mill it does more then 500k which is not that bad given hes fighting a no name with a growing fanbase.
It would do more than 500k. And, again 500K is not a failure.
I am thinking somewhere between 700k-900K. Which would be still awesome considering that Martinez fans all of them are in BoxingScene. And, some of them are only fans cuz they hate Paul Williams.
Ugh, screw Pacquiao vs. Margarito. Even if Pacquiao vs. Mayweather didn't happen next, I'd still rather see Pacman in there with just about anybody else. Margo doesn't deserve a huge fight so soon after a suspension. Especially since he hasn't done crap to earn a shot at Pacquiao.
Even the 24/7 he doesn't have a guy that speaks English. I doubt Martinez would drink his own piss. Martinez does not have arguably two wins against the best P4P fighter. They won't fight in Martinez homeland independence day. And, Mexicans out number any other Latin South America country in the U.S. Martinez does not have a legendary trainer.
I just don't know who successful that 24/7 would really be to the general public. Who don't know who Martinez is.
Mexicans in the U.S knew who JMM was. He was the best Mexican fighter at the time. JMM drinking his own piss made national headlines.
I don't see him making a mili with Martinez. Is very difficult to make a mili Burner. You need the right fighter at the right time and everything has to go right.
Hardcore fans with buy it. But, the casual fans maybe? I mean Oscar didn't go a mili everytime.
Fair points. What did Floyd big favors is how he stepped on the gas and walked Shane down in his last fight. If it doesnt crack a Mill it does more then 500k which is not that bad given hes fighting a no name with a growing fanbase.
See I agree that is what I am thinking. I don't think he would do a mili with Martinez either.
He does not have the name recognition as Shane Mosley. Now Shane was not a draw. But, casual did recognize the name.
They won't recognize Martinez name.
And, Martinez does not really have a country behind him like Hatton and JMM did.
I just didn't want to say all this. Because, it would like I am hating but since you're a Floyd fan can express myself better now with your post.
Totally agree with you. I think people have to be more objective despite being a fan of a fighter. Woudn't be hating by you. I'm a just an honest fan of boxing Jro. Don't really like to get caught up in the arguments but tend to based on how i see things no hate from me on any particular fighter.
I actually think it could. Floyd is just a really big star. He will be fighting a guy most will be picking to beat him. Including all the experts. This is must see TV.
24/7
Floyds promotional tactics
Moving to 160
This would be a big deal.
Even the 24/7 he doesn't have a guy that speaks English. I doubt Martinez would drink his own piss. Martinez does not have arguably two wins against the best P4P fighter. They won't fight in Martinez homeland independence day. And, Mexicans out number any other Latin South America country in the U.S. Martinez does not have a legendary trainer.
I just don't know who successful that 24/7 would really be to the general public. Who don't know who Martinez is.
Mexicans in the U.S knew who JMM was. He was the best Mexican fighter at the time. JMM drinking his own piss made national headlines.
I don't see him making a mili with Martinez. Is very difficult to make a mili Burner. You need the right fighter at the right time and everything has to go right.
Hardcore fans with buy it. But, the casual fans maybe? I mean Oscar didn't go a mili everytime.
Floyd can put up good numbers without a star opponent. A good 6 months of promotion can generate this fight around one million. You have to remember people pay to see Floyd win, his haters buy his fights, and the casual fans also want to watch him win or lose.
Let me ask you this.... do you think he can do better than Manny vs. Clottey? Would it be a success for Floyd if he sold more than Manny vs. Clottey?
I agree Floyd can put up good numbers but not without an opponent who brings something viable to the table. No one man is an island. Believe it or not he does need a dance partner or an angle. Sergio doesn't present either at the moment to make their fight do over a mill. I think their fight would do around the 700,000 like Pac vs Clottey which i thought was a success or around 650,000. I would still consider it a success because i understand the dynamcis but you know Floyd wouldn't and his haters would have a ball with that one.
See I agree that is what I am thinking. I don't think he would do a mili with Martinez either.
He does not have the name recognition as Shane Mosley. Now Shane was not a draw. But, casual did recognize the name.
They won't recognize Martinez name.
And, Martinez does not really have a country behind him like Hatton and JMM did.
I just didn't want to say all this. Because, it would like I am hating but since you're a Floyd fan can express myself better now with your post.
I actually think it could. Floyd is just a really big star. He will be fighting a guy most will be picking to beat him. Including all the experts. This is must see TV.
24/7
Floyds promotional tactics
Moving to 160
This would be a big deal.
Lets not get carried away. Floyd vs Sergio wont do a mil. You have to remember that while Shane isn't a main PPV attraction he was a household name, very respected in the sport and was perceived to be Floyd's biggest threat and someone who he was allegedly ducking. Not to mention he is a partner of Golden Boy so with all of that they were able to create a real viable hype for the fight. With Sergio this won't be the case. Sure he is a great fighter but you need much more than that to do over a mill PPV wise.
See I agree that is what I am thinking. I don't think he would do a mili with Martinez either.
He does not have the name recognition as Shane Mosley. Now Shane was not a draw. But, casual did recognize the name.
They won't recognize Martinez name.
And, Martinez does not really have a country behind him like Hatton and JMM did.
I just didn't want to say all this. Because, it would like I am hating but since you're a Floyd fan can express myself better now with your post.
Lets not get carried away. Floyd vs Sergio wont do a mil. You have to remember that while Shane isn't a main PPV attraction he was a household name, very respected in the sport and was perceived to be Floyd's biggest threat and someone who he was allegedly ducking. Not to mention he is a partner of Golden Boy so with all of that they were able to create a real viable hype for the fight. With Sergio this won't be the case. Sure he is a great fighter but you need much more than that to do over a mill PPV wise.
Floyd can put up good numbers without a star opponent. A good 6 months of promotion can generate this fight around one million. You have to remember people pay to see Floyd win, his haters buy his fights, and the casual fans also want to watch him win or lose.
Let me ask you this.... do you think he can do better than Manny vs. Clottey? Would it be a success for Floyd if he sold more than Manny vs. Clottey?
Id like to see him fight Berto.
He wouldnt pay the sancioning fees for the WBA belt of Mosleys, but im sure he would happily add another WBC to the collection.