Wladimir Klitschko is #3 p4p
- IBF/WBO/IBO/RING Unified heavyweight champion of the world
- 48 KOs in 54 wins
- olympic gold medalist
- has made 15 dominant world title defences
- has defeated 8 world heavyweight champions:
Chris Byrd I (31-1)
Chris Byrd II (39-2)
Samuel Peter (24-0)
Ruslan Chagaev (25-0)
Sultan Ibragimov (22-0)
Lamon Brewster (33-3)
Hasim Rahman (45-5)
Francois Botha (44-3)
Ray Mercer (30-4)
- has defeated tons of top contenders:
Eddie Chambers (35-1)
Calvin Brock (29-0)
Tony Thompson (31-1)
Jameel McCline (28-2)
Monte Barrett (23-0)
Ray Austin (24-3)
DaVarryl Williamson (20-2)
Axel Schulz (26-3)
Derrick Jefferson (23-2)
Charles Shufford (17-1)
Eliseo Castillo (18-0)
etc....
What is the definition of P4P?
I like Sergio myself. I think he's on a hellva run even though his stats tell a tale of a different story... I think if you read in between the lines this man schooled Kermits ass, pummeled the shit out of P-Will, and whupped the shit out of Kelly Pavlik; and quite frankly I think the momentum is in his favor at this point as his win over Pavlik was much more impressive then P-Wills win (that was cut short due to Cintrons inability to continue). You can also make the argument for P-will being #3 and I wouldn't argue with that as he does have some better names on his resume then Sergio, and Pavlik did duck P-Will, but at this moment I have to go with Sergio (IMO).
Im sorry Williams body of work over his last few fights has NOT been impressive..
Winky is 37 and style wise an easy fight no matter his age/lay off etc
Martinez .. the majority of people on this site believe he lost here
Cintron.. He clearly lost the first 4 rounds here before the fall outside
If Paul Williams is p4p n3 boxing is in trouble when Mayweather and Pac go..
Martinez has clearly been more impressive and faced better opposition over his last few fights.
Agreed!!!!!!!:boxing::boxing:
Marquez, That loss against mayweather was bull shit...
Every1 knew he was just making some money, stepping up 2 divisions when hes not even a lightweight is just ridiculous....
Hes still number 3 in my eyes, his skills are phenomenal
Im sorry Williams body of work over his last few fights has NOT been impressive..
Winky is 37 and style wise an easy fight no matter his age/lay off etc
Martinez .. the majority of people on this site believe he lost here
Cintron.. He clearly lost the first 4 rounds here before the fall outside
If Paul Williams is p4p n3 boxing is in trouble when Mayweather and Pac go..
Martinez has clearly been more impressive and faced better opposition over his last few fights.
100% agreed.
Yea but, Diaz at 135 > Diaz at 140. And, Juan Diaz was coming off a win against Katsidis when JMM beat him. And, the Katsidis is a good win. The thing with both JMM and Diaz is that their limit is 135. Anything higher than that they're average.
you right J
but dawson i think its more of his inactivity than anything else but i wouldnt get mad if people had floyd pac jmm paul and dawson in whatever order they please
i do feel that jmm is on the decline
Usually pretty objective, but I'm going to go with my nuthugging side here and vote for Marquez. Nobody else jumps out so much that they need to be number three over him, at least not in my opinion.
jmm had a brawl with the baby bulll and to me he is not worthy of the 3 spot for the simple fact that paulie spark diaz...
Yea but, Diaz at 135 > Diaz at 140. And, Juan Diaz was coming off a win against Katsidis when JMM beat him. And, the Katsidis is a good win. The thing with both JMM and Diaz is that their limit is 135. Anything higher than that they're average.
for me is the win over sergio i mean wether we like the decision or not he still won as far as a heavyweight not too many people put hw at the pund for pound list especially how is the weakest division in boxing
Would you say that the Martinez win is better then the Adamek win for Dawson? Especially considering what Adamek has accomplished since then.