How is Haye ducking Wlad? Vitali is the tougher match-up.

Wasup my dude. Look at this though. Wlad comes to box. Vitali comes to bang and he has a tough chin to crack. I think he can beat Vitali but Vitali can crack just as much as Wad can. I dont agree, wlad cracks much harder than vit. he has more snap in his punches, do you think johnson and arreola would have still been standing if wlad landed all those punches? hell no

Whether haye fights wlad or vitali it will be another one sided beating by the klits.

I seen a bunch of people who rated Vitali as the number 1 Heavy since he came back and been on a streak AND I seen everybody say that Vitali would KO Wlad, yet Haye cant fight him? I seen everybody also say that Vitali is the tougher matchup because he doesnt have a bad chin like Wlad. So Hayes "punchers chance" just decreased no?? Retards. :pat: wlad is better than vitali now. vitali is too old and slow now. you could see it in his last fight. anyway,,,it was wlad that called haye out,,,even called him a bitch and haye rejects it. thats a coward for you. he knows vitali already has a fight lined up whereas wlad is free. haye is a joke and he's losing fans every day. I bet he doesnt even sign to fight vitali. hes just stalling and stalling. wiaitng for those klit boys to get old

:stupid: You're obviously a NUTHUGGING FANBOY not a boxing fan. Haye called Wladimir out last year, approached him in the mall, the T-shirts and all that. Then after all the trash talk, Haye faked an injury to duck him last year. Now he's ducking Wlad again! Saying he wants to fight Vitali is another lie to cover it up. :blowjob: I know you find Haye attractive and LOVE IS BLIND :love:, but it's time you came to your senses about him. Tunney please stop with all the childish stuff. Vitali vs. Haye who wins?

The problem isn't whether or not Vitali is the tougher matchup. The issue is whether Haye is serious about fighting him. For the record, I think he's got quite an uphill battle with either one. But my patience is growing thin. Pick one and fight.

He beats Vitali has more of a bargaining chip at the tables with Wlad. Its called the WBC Title. Is the WBA title not enough already? this is what people were saying when he signed to fight valuev! now he has fought valuev and got the title, this fight doesnt seem any closer! Also if he beats wlad, he has even more titles than what he would get by beating vitali and all the bargaining he needs.

He beats Vitali has more of a bargaining chip at the tables with Wlad. Its called the WBC Title. This is not about the WBC title (who the **** cares about titles in these megafights anyway?) He wants to fight Vitali because "he is better and stronger than Wladimir". Problem is he has had three chances for a fight with a Klitschko and has managed to reneg on every single one of them. And you still think he will fight Vitali next? Lets turn the tables. Why not fight Wladimir and have a better position when dealing with Vitali? The fight vs Wladimir was there for him to grab. But he just didnt.

Haye: Wladimir i want to fight you! Wladimir: Busy with mandatory, get some wins. Haye: Vitali i want to fight you! Vitali: Who are you? *Haye keeps offending and pissing the brothers off, begging for attention for months* Wladimir: Ok lets fight. Haye: Oh.. ok sure.. *Haye injured himself close to the fight* Vitali: Ok fight me then. Haye: Sure... Haye: No wait, lets get Valuev instead so i can get a better deal later! Vitali: Sigh... *Wladimir makes videos calling Haye out. Haye keeps quiet "because he is on vacation" (doesnt stop him from making comments about every single thing in the world except for Wladimir)* Wladimir: So? Lets fight? Everything is set and you will get a fair deal. Haye: But but.. you have a mandatory against Povetkin? Wladimir: Already taken care of. Lets do this. Haye: But Vitali is better than you. I want to fight him instead. --- **** yeah. How is Haye ducking anyone? He clearly wants these fights. He beats Vitali has more of a bargaining chip at the tables with Wlad. Its called the WBC Title.

Haye: Wladimir i want to fight you! Wladimir: Busy with mandatory, get some wins. Haye: Vitali i want to fight you! Vitali: Who are you? *Haye keeps offending and pissing the brothers off, begging for attention for months* Wladimir: Ok lets fight. Haye: Oh.. ok sure.. *Haye injured himself close to the fight* Vitali: Ok fight me then. Haye: Sure... Haye: No wait, lets get Valuev instead so i can get a better deal later! Vitali: Sigh... *Wladimir makes videos calling Haye out. Haye keeps quiet "because he is on vacation" (doesnt stop him from making comments about every single thing in the world except for Wladimir)* Wladimir: So? Lets fight? Everything is set and you will get a fair deal. Haye: But but.. you have a mandatory against Povetkin? Wladimir: Already taken care of. Lets do this. Haye: But Vitali is better than you. I want to fight him instead. --- **** yeah. How is Haye ducking anyone? He clearly wants these fights.

No, I agree, he's not ducking, but the problem I have is how Haye has gone about this. He has waited until 2 days before the deadline to release this snippet of information, when he could have said this in the first place. It's wasting Wlad's time at negotiations. It seems Haye and his team are very unprofessional, which I find annoying. But on topic to what the OP is saying, Haye can't be ducking either, as they are both the biggest threats in the division, both will probably beat him anyway, but he should be getting probs for wanting to fight the brother with the better chin first. I do think though that Haye does actually have a better chance at Vitali as he keeps his hands low, jaw open and is slower than Wlad, but Haye has to keep to a strict gameplan to win.

Either way we would have a unified HW champ (that's if haye can beat one or both of them). I think boxing needs that so I'm down for either fight

Vitali is tougher and stronger.... but he's the less mobile of the 2, the MORE robotic of the 2, the slowest of the 2, and the oldest of the 2.....anybody who isn't gassed by Vitali beatin up punchin' bags instead of ACTUAL HW stylistic problems such as Chaguev, Thompson and Chambers...then you would know that Vitali is the more beatable of the bros....Haye's mobility and speed gets over on the less technichal and less skilled of the bros......who happens to be Vitali :cool2:....Wlad murders him....EASY!! Wasup my dude. Look at this though. Wlad comes to box. Vitali comes to bang and he has a tough chin to crack. I think he can beat Vitali but Vitali can crack just as much as Wad can.

im losing patience with haye, i understand vitali has got a fight already, i understand wlad has not, and wants to fight haye as shown with that video he did. why is it so hard for haye to fight them? surely haye must of seen that vid wlad did, wouldnt you want to shut him up? Apart from the Video that was released by Wlad am frustrated with Haye too why? Because he started all these by walking up to Wlad and challenging him.. So yes in a way the Wlad-Haye fight has more fire to it, But i wouldnt mind him fighting Vitali...But thats if he sign up to fight Vitali next, I really dont want to hear any excuse from Haye about a contract or whatnot. But since Vitali is fighting sooo soon i dont mind him waiting to fight Vitali.

Vitali is tougher and stronger.... but he's the less mobile of the 2, the MORE robotic of the 2, the slowest of the 2, and the oldest of the 2.....anybody who isn't gassed by Vitali beatin up punchin' bags instead of ACTUAL HW stylistic problems such as Chaguev, Thompson and Chambers...then you would know that Vitali is the more beatable of the bros....Haye's mobility and speed gets over on the less technichal and less skilled of the bros......who happens to be Vitali :cool2:....Wlad murders him....EASY!!

If you were Haye wouldnt you rather grab Vitali's WBC Belt so you can sit at the negotiating table with Wlad...and put ur feet up on it? this is what they said when he fought valuev, beat him, and he has more negotiating power because he is the WBA champ. he is already at the table with a title!

Now thats where its at. Haye beats Vitali and then the Haye-Wlad fight is for all the belts. thats right but vitali aint no stepping stone or glass chinned guy...vitali can take a hell of a beating and has never been down in his career...although that can change if haye fights smart against him and dominates...that is IF they fight

im losing patience with haye, i understand vitali has got a fight already, i understand wlad has not, and wants to fight haye as shown with that video he did. why is it so hard for haye to fight them? surely haye must of seen that vid wlad did, wouldnt you want to shut him up? If you were Haye wouldnt you rather grab Vitali's WBC Belt so you can sit at the negotiating table with Wlad...and put ur feet up on it?

aye mate i reckon he will definately though fight either vitali or wladimir for sure this time since the pressure is on...the fans want the fight to go down and also hayes just beaten a mandatory challenge and wladimir has just beaten chambers so we would all like to see a heavyweight unification fight go down.. Now thats where its at. Haye beats Vitali and then the Haye-Wlad fight is for all the belts.

Am sure if Haye end up fighting Vitali then it isnt ducking, Understand how boxing works before you point fingers. im losing patience with haye, i understand vitali has got a fight already, i understand wlad has not, and wants to fight haye as shown with that video he did. why is it so hard for haye to fight them? surely haye must of seen that vid wlad did, wouldnt you want to shut him up?

Both Klits have their pro's and con's, but either men present Haye with a potential loss. I don't see Haye beating any Klit, so whatever fight is made, doesn't bother me. I just hope a fight gets signed soon. Vitali to me has a more awkward style, and although slower then his brother, Haye will have to fight his career best to have a chance against him. I respect Haye, and signing to fight any bro will help heavyweight boxing again, and bring it to the forefront of the sport.