I'm asking this because I saw the Yahoo rankings, and the only guys on there that have a better body of work overall are Pacquiao and Mayweather. Skills aside, I didn't see anybody else on there with a better resume than Paul Williams. This is the truth. Why can't some people on here put their hard feelings aside and realize that Mosley, JMM, Martinez, and even Dawson and Adamek don't have a better body of work than Paul Williams. When I say that I mean when you talk about what have you done for me lately.
And don't bring titles into this shit either. Mayweather didn't even pay for one when he beat Mosley's ass.
What have Casamayor or Diaz gone on to do? Nothing. Tarver is a frigging TV commentator. Adamek has went on to be successful at higher weights. But outside of that I don't see anything that impessive about Chad'e resume. And yet Sergio Martinez went on to beat Pavlik. Margarito put together a three fight winning streak despite being wiped out by Mosley. Now the reason why you can't rank Martinez over Williams P4P is because of the head to head match up. It's just being biased. Do people rank Clottey over Cotto P4P? No, they don't. And even though it happened a long time ago Martinez does have a knockout loss to Margarito.
To sum it up, the only two guys that were on that P4P list that I could see giving Williams a run for his money where competing on a P4P scale goes is Dawson and Martinez themselves. Dawson's resume is good too, but he is a lot more inactive than Williams. And I explained the deal with Martinez.
So what's everybody's problem with Williams being at #3? I'm not on any nuthugging shit, because unlike Burner I do admit that Williams has flaws and I don't think he could beat Hopkins even at this stage like Burner does. But I think the guy gets way too much hate and not enough credit.
Paul Williams is GOAT!!!:boxing:
I got him beating Ray Robinson at 147 and 160. Also, I think he beats Carlos Monzon at middleweight. Furthermore, I would also favor him over prime Roy Jones at 175. Hell, he could even step up to heavyweight and beat Wlad. What do you think iceta? Can we agree?
You know why people love Cotto? Because he is ****ing Miguel Cotto!!!You just don't get it, do you?
There will be at least 30 000 in attendance for his fight against Foreman. Now, perhaps they can stick Williams on the undercard, because no way in hell will Paul Williams ever see 30 000 people attend his fight.
Cotto must be doing something right if there are such extreme haters like this dude iceta!!! You can just be sure that he will bring up Cotto's name somehow, even if the topic at hand has nothing to do with Cotto. You can **** off maggot!!!
I'm not. I won't even watch him fight anymore until he is able to beat somebody better than Gomez, Jennings, and now Foreman.
i used to respect and like cotto but now hes become a whiny drama queen ,his fans do bitch a hella lot now, now it seems to be like they got traumatized by cottos poor showings vs clottey , margarito and pacman, cotto is not qualified to be in the p4p fight cause the last dominant win was against jennings,
you don't have to watch him in order to be obsessed, going off topic repeatedly to talk about him is more than enough
why do you do that? why the obsession?
You don't ask, I don't tell. It's as simple as that. And why shouldn't I bring him up in this thread since him and Williams are in the same division?
yeah yeah, but why are you so obsessed with cotto?
I'm not. I won't even watch him fight anymore until he is able to beat somebody better than Gomez, Jennings, and now Foreman.
The only person I would consider at that spot is Chad Dawson he and PWill its a toss up but since Dawson has been missing in action that takes him out of consideration but if he knocks out Pascal maybe I would change my mind
this is what happens if you dont think for yourself and you listen to hbo like if theyre opinions are facts, you wind up ranking williams #3
why are you so obsessed with cotto?
I liked his pad work with Steward that I saw earlier today. Looks like I could burn more energy than that in a goat fuck like I said before.
The only person I would consider at that spot is Chad Dawson he and PWill its a toss up but since Dawson has been missing in action that takes him out of consideration but if he knocks out Pascal maybe I would change my mind
dont get so delicate homie, you and i both know he does not deserve that spot as #3, my favorite fighter right now marquez , he gets ranked as high as #3 and i dont even rank him in the top 10you gotta see things unbiasedly or you will be a version of mayweathers dumber fans for paul , i gained respect for may but paul is constantly struggling and lost to a nobody, just relax and dont even follow hbos version of the p4p list cause you seemed to have gotten sucked into their lies and shit propaganda for paul
I like your sig and av a lot. :luvbed:
And this thread is coming from someone who thinks Williams looks vulnerable and ready to be beat. I'm just saying resume wise, I don't see anybody with a better one.
dont get so delicate homie, you and i both know he does not deserve that spot as #3, my favorite fighter right now marquez , he gets ranked as high as #3 and i dont even rank him in the top 10you gotta see things unbiasedly or you will be a version of mayweathers dumber fans for paul , i gained respect for may but paul is constantly struggling and lost to a nobody, just relax and dont even follow hbos version of the p4p list cause you seemed to have gotten sucked into their lies and shit propaganda for paul
Oh yeah?????
My sig says otherwise!!!!
He did look hurt there now that I pay attention to it. Lol. Look, I think Williams is there for the taking but someone still needs to beat him. No matter how inferior you think his defense is or how uncoordinated he is the dude still has a better what have you done for me lately resume than a lot of the other guys ranked in the top ten. That's all I'm saying.
what have DLH, hatton, cotto, and clottey gone to do?
what have DLH, hatton, marquez, and mosley gone to do?
lets puts williams #1 because martinez beat pavlik :rofl:
I didn't say he should be P4P #1. And I'm not even saying he should get piggy back credit for Martinez beating Pavlik. But since there fight happened not too long ago, Williams should be over him. But if Martinez kept fighting the Pavliks while Williams fought the Cintrons for a long period of time I would say put Martinez over Williams.
I hope Paul goes back to 160 and stays there.
He will kill himself making 147, and even at 154 he didn't look as good.
160 is good for him.
With Golovkin coming to the US, Martinez, Pavlik, and guys like Jacobs, Korobov, Guererro, N'jikam, Pirog right there. 160 isn't for Williams. Not if he wants to win.
And really I guess I don't have a big gripe either with people thinking he shouldn't be that high. But by the same tokken if you don't view him as at least close to the top you've got a personal agenda against him.
I hope Paul goes back to 160 and stays there.
He will kill himself making 147, and even at 154 he didn't look as good.
160 is good for him.
Paul should go back to 160!:lurk:
Okay, so people don't think he's as skilled as the other guys on the list. Fair enough. But no matter how skilled you are, you have to have something to show for it.
how to display your power is more important than which you have.:boxing:
All Williams fans can say is that Cintron would have folded in late rounds. But there's no proof of that!
Did you copy and paste what I already said? Are you mocking me? Or did you happen to type exactly what I said earlier? Thats odd! :rofl:
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