Manny Pacquiao has the best offense in boxing.

Offense isnt easily defined. I mean, Pac has a more offensive style. Hes more aggressive and throws bigger punches. That doesnt mean he has a better offense. I cant stand Floyd, but it is true he can probably do more than Pac in terms of punching. His counters are almost perfect, he is incredibly accurate. His timing is amazing. He doesnt waste punches. He can throw short uppercuts on the inside brilliantly. Yet Pac MAYBE has better combos, power and finishes better. Floyd is so clinical, its difficult to argue Pac has a better offense.

you talking like you don't understand Boxing my dude, honestly man. Mayweather has a better offense and defense than Pacquiao because he's able to get hit less in return. Pacquiao doesn't fight smart he fights brutal and reckless at times he just throws so much that nobody can make him pay, Marquez and Morales showed how to beat Pacquiao which is with short, HARD counterpunches to neutralize his offense and good ring movement, this is a fight plan which is something that must be created based on each individual fighter. there is a reason Floyd banged out and came forward with Gatti (R.I.P) and didn't do it with no one else until the Mosley fight, this is because for every different fighter you face you're supposed to build a fight plan for them specifically, his base style is defensive and he's the best at that but what makes him better than Pacquiao offensively is when he throws at you it's a lot harder for you to catch him flush with a counter than it is with anyone else, even threw his offense he manages to defend, Marquez ROCKED the shit out of Pacquiao in both fights due to counters yet when he tried that with Floyd he couldn't find him. it's also about fighter approach, as I said above Mayweather is defense first, ofense second and Pacquiao is offense first and offense 2nd, he is all offense because even when losing all you see is him coming forward banging away. his being offensive minded makes it so that his fight plans are built solely off offense hence his quicker finishes, that's cool but imagine when he faces someone with the lateral skills to make him miss and counter him and with good leg movement, someone who will hit him back hard each and every time he makes a mistake the way Joshua Clottey didn't, someone who doesn't make the mistake of banging away with Pacquiao or being TOO defensive against him, Floyd can do ALL of that and that's why he's better both offensively and defensively over Pacquiao I agree with your opinion.

Manny's offense, although I agree is good, is catered to immobile guys that can't slip away. Good luck trying that shit on Mayweather. Dude's gonna be missing all nite and countered to death. Manny's offense, although I agree is good, is catered to immobile guys that can't slip away. I think so.

At the time pac lost he was not even considred top 50 in offense. Its about now. What they have done recently. Manny proved it with his perfomances the past few years. Performance against carefully picked fighters.

Manny Pacquiao knocked out Miguel Cotto Manny Pacquiao knocked out Ricky Hatton Manny Pacquiao made Oscar quit Where have you seen Floyd Mayweather go out an use his offense to put on a great performance? Just because you make guys run into your potshot doesn't mean you have a better offense. The difference between Mayweather and Pacquiao is that Manny creates his own offense. Mayweather waits until you punch yourself out. Mayweather did a little bit in this sense against Mosley but come on now that was a shell of the "old" Mosley....and the "old" Mosley had no defense to begin with Nobody praises Mayweather for bringing up his power, they praise and praise Manny for his power punching. Just because you land 100 out of the 300 punches you throw doesn't mean you have great offense. If Mayweather's offense is so great than why doesn't he throw more? Why doesn't he go for the knockout? Is he just a talented coward? If you think he's just playing it safe, then why does he complain that the American public doesn't support him? He danced around Ricky Hatton for 10 or 11 rounds, he danced around with Oscar, he was on the bike the whole fight against Baldomir.. Do you have any idea how much of a star Mayweather would be if he stopped all those guys like Pacquiao stopped his opponents? Plus, he supposedly has better offense than Manny, so it should be easier to stop all these guys. I just don't get it. How does Mayweahter have better offense when Manny stops more opponents? It's like saying Whitaker had better offense than Oscar de La Hoya...Why did Pernell run the whole time then? you talking like you don't understand Boxing my dude, honestly man. Mayweather has a better offense and defense than Pacquiao because he's able to get hit less in return. Pacquiao doesn't fight smart he fights brutal and reckless at times he just throws so much that nobody can make him pay, Marquez and Morales showed how to beat Pacquiao which is with short, HARD counterpunches to neutralize his offense and good ring movement, this is a fight plan which is something that must be created based on each individual fighter. there is a reason Floyd banged out and came forward with Gatti (R.I.P) and didn't do it with no one else until the Mosley fight, this is because for every different fighter you face you're supposed to build a fight plan for them specifically, his base style is defensive and he's the best at that but what makes him better than Pacquiao offensively is when he throws at you it's a lot harder for you to catch him flush with a counter than it is with anyone else, even threw his offense he manages to defend, Marquez ROCKED the shit out of Pacquiao in both fights due to counters yet when he tried that with Floyd he couldn't find him. it's also about fighter approach, as I said above Mayweather is defense first, ofense second and Pacquiao is offense first and offense 2nd, he is all offense because even when losing all you see is him coming forward banging away. his being offensive minded makes it so that his fight plans are built solely off offense hence his quicker finishes, that's cool but imagine when he faces someone with the lateral skills to make him miss and counter him and with good leg movement, someone who will hit him back hard each and every time he makes a mistake the way Joshua Clottey didn't, someone who doesn't make the mistake of banging away with Pacquiao or being TOO defensive against him, Floyd can do ALL of that and that's why he's better both offensively and defensively over Pacquiao

Prime Roy Jones Jr had the best offense I have ever seen. He proved it by going undefeated in 50+ fights. You don't have the best offense and lose that many fights and draw with come-forward fighters. At the time pac lost he was not even considred top 50 in offense. Its about now. What they have done recently. Manny proved it with his perfomances the past few years.

Manny's offense, although I agree is good, is catered to immobile guys that can't slip away. Good luck trying that shit on Mayweather. Dude's gonna be missing all nite and countered to death.

Manny Pacquiao knocked out Miguel Cotto Manny Pacquiao knocked out Ricky Hatton Manny Pacquiao made Oscar quit Where have you seen Floyd Mayweather go out an use his offense to put on a great performance? Just because you make guys run into your potshot doesn't mean you have a better offense. The difference between Mayweather and Pacquiao is that Manny creates his own offense. Mayweather waits until you punch yourself out. Mayweather did a little bit in this sense against Mosley but come on now that was a shell of the "old" Mosley....and the "old" Mosley had no defense to begin with Nobody praises Mayweather for bringing up his power, they praise and praise Manny for his power punching. Just because you land 100 out of the 300 punches you throw doesn't mean you have great offense. If Mayweather's offense is so great than why doesn't he throw more? Why doesn't he go for the knockout? Is he just a talented coward? If you think he's just playing it safe, then why does he complain that the American public doesn't support him? He danced around Ricky Hatton for 10 or 11 rounds, he danced around with Oscar, he was on the bike the whole fight against Baldomir.. Do you have any idea how much of a star Mayweather would be if he stopped all those guys like Pacquiao stopped his opponents? Plus, he supposedly has better offense than Manny, so it should be easier to stop all these guys. I just don't get it. How does Mayweahter have better offense when Manny stops more opponents? It's like saying Whitaker had better offense than Oscar de La Hoya...Why did Pernell run the whole time then? It's Floyd not Pac who is the best fighter in the world. :lurk:

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Mayweather's not a pure boxer. I don't understand why everybody has that in their head. I agree. I could not even level him a notch below the likes of SRL, Hagler, Hearns, Duran, Ali. Pac is almost there with those greats IMO.

why'd u cut out buboy celebrating? but yeah, pac is the best offensive boxer not floyd. floyd doesn't even throw more than 2 punch combinations. Just cause he doesnt at welterweight doesnt mean he never used to, you cant define a man by what he done recently without looking at what he did in the past...

Quality and quantity baby !! http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00795/hatton7_500x500_795180a.jpg why'd u cut out buboy celebrating? but yeah, pac is the best offensive boxer not floyd. floyd doesn't even throw more than 2 punch combinations.

You forgot his last two dominate performances against the guys Manny ducked? floyd ducked the rematch against a past prime weight drained oscar at 147 lb

You need to put certain thing in to perspective. Like what style they lost to. The best offensive boxer will not lose/draw to a come forward style. He should have been able to demolish Marquez in 2008(When he was already the new & improved Pacquiao), but that's not what happened in those 2 nights. Yet, you fail to put in to perspective Marquez was just simply a great fighter in his own right and possessed skill to neutralize his speed. In an earlier post you stated Roy Jones Jr was great offensive phenom in 50 pro fights and I agree, but he still lost to a come forward style in Tarver. My reasoning is that I don't care how best you think your style is offensively/defensively or otherwise overall skill and technique and heart could overcome this...

Where have you seen Floyd Mayweather go out an use his offense to put on a great performance? Just because you make guys run into your potshot doesn't mean you have a better offense. You forgot his last two dominate performances against the guys Manny ducked?

Really? So the best offensive fighter should never lose is your logic? I guess Tyson/Douglas was the greatest hoax known to man so gtfo with that shit... You need to put certain thing in to perspective. Like what style they lost to. The best offensive boxer will not lose/draw to a come forward style. He should have been able to demolish Marquez in 2008(When he was already the new & improved Pacquiao), but that's not what happened in those 2 nights.

Prime Roy Jones Jr had the best offense I have ever seen. He proved it by going undefeated in 50+ fights. You don't have the best offense and lose that many fights and draw with come-forward fighters.

if you have the best defense in the sport, why did castillo...

Na, don't bring that shit over here. You have the best offense in the sport then you shouldn't lose to anybody at all. So gtfo with that shit. Really? So the best offensive fighter should never lose is your logic? I guess Tyson/Douglas was the greatest hoax known to man so gtfo with that shit...