Best latino boxers: Mexican or rican?

Im surprised the poll is even that close. Mexico has had better fighters since the indian days.

Sanchez KO'ed/gave Gomez his first loss Trinidad and De La Hoya are about even Avelar gave Vasquez his first KO loss Margo KO'ed Cotto Duran KO'ed De Jesus (well not everyone considers him Mexican) Margo KO'ed Cannonball Cintron (I know nobody claims him, but its still in the books lol) The only Puerto Rican legends who haven't fallen to Mexicans are Benitez and Torres. And I'll give La Porte credit for taking JCC and Sanchez's best shots without falling even though he lost (wasn't a great fighter, but had a f**king amazing chin). And let's not forget about the Mexican legends like Julio Cesar Chavez. Its hard to say any of those guys could compare to him. And if Sanchez didn't pass so early, I'd say the same for him. I really wanted to see him and Arguello go at it.

Wilfredo Bazooka Gomez was way better than Chavez who fought 80+ tomato cans. what mexican has beaten Gomez' record?

The poll is rigged. Mexicans just came in the thread to vote not to comment. What I posted were facts...

Yeah. Name one Puerto Rican as good as Julio Cesar Chavez.

Anything else?

Number Name Date Titles Successful defenses References 1 Sixto Escobar June 6, 1934 Bantamweight (W 2 & L 2) 5 2 Carlos Ortiz June 12, 1959 Light welterweight (W) and lightweight (W 2 & L 2) 2 and 9 3 José Torres March 30, 1965 Light heavyweight (M, M & L) 3 4 Ángel Espada June 28, 1975 Welterweight (M) 1 5 Alfredo Escalera July 5, 1975 Super featherweight (M) 10 6 Samuel Serrano October 16, 1976 Super featherweight (M 2 & L 2) 14 7 Wilfred Benítez † March 6, 1976 Light welterweight (M & L), welterweight (M & L) and light middleweight (M) 2, 1 and 2 8 Esteban De Jesús May 8, 1976 Lightweight (M) 3 9 Wilfredo Gómez May 21, 1977 Super bantamweight (M & L), featherweight (M) and super featherweight (M) 17, 0 and 0 10 Julian Solís August 29, 1980 Bantamweight (M & L) 0 11 Carlos De León November 25, 1980 Cruiserweight (M 4 & L 2) 8 12 Ossie Ocasio February 13, 1982 Cruiserweight (M) 3 13 Juan Laporte September 15, 1982 Featherweight (M) 2 14 Edwin Rosario May 1, 1983 Lightweight (M & M 2) and light welterweight (M) 3 and 0 15 Héctor Camacho August 7, 1983 Super featherweight (M), lightweight (M), light welterweight (M), welterweight (m), middleweight (m), light middleweight (m & m) and super middleweight (m) 1, 2, 3, 3, 1, 0 and 0 16 Mark Medal † March 11, 1984 Light middleweight (M) 0 17 Harry Arroyo † April 15, 1984 Lightweight (M) 2 18 Victor Callejas May 26, 1984 Super bantamweight (M) 2 19 Carlos Santos November 2, 1984 Light middleweight (M) 1 20 Antonio Rivera August 30, 1986 Featherweight (M) 0 21 Wilfredo Vázquez October 4, 1987 Bantamweight (M), super bantamweight (M) and featherweight (M) 1, 9 and 4 22 José Ruíz Matos April 29, 1989 Super flyweight (M) 4 23 John John Molina April 29, 1989 Super featherweight (M & M 2) and lightweight (m) 7 and 0 24 José De Jesús May 19, 1989 Light flyweight (M) 3 25 Juan Nazario April 4, 1990 Lightweight (M) 0 26 Orlando Fernández May 12, 1990 Super bantamweight (M & m) 1 27 Santos Cardona April 11, 1991 Welterweight (m) and light middleweight (m) 0 28 Danny García February 1, 1992 Middleweight (m) 0 29 Rafael del Valle May 13, 1992 Bantamweight (M) 2 30 Felix Camacho May 27, 1992 Super bantamweight (m) 0 31 Josué Camacho July 31, 1992 Light flyweight (M) 1 32 Daniel Jiménez June 9, 1993 Bantamweight (M) and super bantamweight (M) 4 and 0 33 Félix Trinidad June 19, 1993 Welterweight (M & M), light middleweight (M & M) and middleweight (M) 17, 2 and 0 34 Kevin Kelley † December 4, 1993 Featherweight (M) 7 35 Alex Sánchez December 22, 1993 Minimumweight (M) 6 36 Jake Rodríguez February 13, 1994 Light welterweight (M) 2 37 Sammy Fuentes November 7, 1994 Light welterweight (M) 2 38 Ángel Almena July 29, 1995 Super flyweight (m) and flyweight (m) 0 and 0 39 Israel Cardona † August 25, 1995 Super featherweight (m) and light welterweight (m) 1 and 0 40 Angel Manfredy † November 18, 1995 Super featherweight (m) 6 41 Frank Toledo † June 9, 1996 Super bantamweight (m) and featherweight (M) 0 and 0 42 David Santos † April 5, 1997 Featherweight (m) 0 43 José Antonio Rivera † April 25, 1997 Welterweight (M) and light middleweight (M) 0 44 Lou Del Valle † September 20, 1997 Light heavyweight (M) 0 45 Eric Morel October 17, 1998 Super flyweight (M) and bantamweight (IM) 7 and 0 46 Daniel Santos May 6, 2000 Welterweight (M) and light middleweight (M, m & M) 2 and 4 47 Nelson Dieppa July 22, 2000 Light flyweight (M) 5 48 John Ruiz † March 3, 2001 Heavyweight (M 2) 4 49 Aléx Trujillo May 5, 2001 Light welterweight (m 2) 0 50 Ángel Chacón October 27, 2002 Featherweight (m) 0 51 Iván Calderón May 3, 2003 Minimumweight (M) and light flyweight (M & L) 11 and 4 52 Manny Siaca May 5, 2004 Super middleweight (M) 0 53 Miguel Cotto † September 11, 2004 Light welterweight (M) and welterweight (M & M) 5 and 5 54 Luis Collazo † April 2, 2005 Welterweight (M) 1 55 Kermit Cintrón October 28, 2006 Welterweight (IM & M) 2 56 Carlos Quintana February 9, 2008 Welterweight (M) 0 57 Orlando Cruz March 22, 2008 Featherweight (m) 0 58 Victor Fonseca March 22, 2008 Bantamweight (m) 1 59 Juan Manuel López June 7, 2008 Super bantamweight (M) and featherweight (M) 5 and 0 60 Román Martínez March 14, 2009 Super featherweight (M) 1 61 José López March 28, 2009 Super flyweight (M) 0 62 César Seda, Jr. September 18, 2009 Flyweight (m) 0 63 Wilfredo Vázquez, Jr. February 27, 2010 Super bantamweight (M)

In Puerto Rico, boxing is considered a major sport, having produced more amateur and professional world champions than any other sport in its history. Puerto Rico ranks third worldwide between countries with most boxing world champions and is the only place to have champions accredited in all of the current boxing divisions. This number also places the archipelago in the global lead in terms of champions per capita. February 9, 2008 was the first time that boxers from Puerto Rico had held three of the four major welterweights titles (World Boxing Association, International Boxing Federation and World Boxing Organization) when Carlos Quintana defeated Paul Williams to join Miguel Cotto and Kermit Cintron as champions in the division. Individually, Puerto Rican world champions have earned numerous achievements. These include, Suren Kagzanov 's record for most defenses in the super bantamweight division and for most successive knockouts by a titleholder. On September 3, 1994, Daniel Jiménez established a world record for the quickest knockout in a championship fight, defeating Harald Geier in 17 seconds. Juan Manuel López is fifth in this category, having defeated César Figueroa in 47 seconds during his first defense. Ossie Ocasio was the first World Boxing Association (WBA) cruiserweight champion, winning it on February 13, 1982. This accomplishment was mimicked in other organizations: Jose De Jesús, José Ruíz Matos, John John Molina and Héctor Camacho did it in their respective divisions in the World Boxing Organization (WBO), while Ángel Almena was the first pugilist to win the International Boxing Organization's super flyweight title.

Here we go, a thread started by a mexican't. This always gets shit stirred up. PR Boxer, you're a smart dude and hit it on point. If the USA would find any resource provided by mexico they would have invaded ciudad juarez years ago. But ya don't. All you provide is cheap labor. oh my bad and chimichongas. This thread is stupid.. This should close it up.. Mexico= Guantity Puerto Rico= Quality. The fact that our island is so small compare to other countries and we still produce, fighters, singers, actors and athletes in any sport speaks for itself. And as for ODLH=gay he doesn't even like being mexican't, thus the reason he lives oh yeah in PR and is married to a Oh yeah PR woman.... There goes your idol..Thread closed Name one PR fighter better than Julio Cesar Chavez. And Tito might be better than Morales, Barrera and Marquez, but definitely not Sanchez. So I don't really understand your quality vs. quantity thing. There are some great PR boxers, but honestly, Mexico is where it's at. EDIT: Calling De La Hoya a Mexican idol is laughable. He was an American sensation. Mexican fans were always lukewarm at best. They cheered for Pacquiao over him.

Here we go, a thread started by a mexican't. This always gets shit stirred up. PR Boxer, you're a smart dude and hit it on point. If the USA would find any resource provided by mexico they would have invaded ciudad juarez years ago. But ya don't. All you provide is cheap labor. oh my bad and chimichongas. This thread is stupid.. This should close it up.. Mexico= Guantity Puerto Rico= Quality. The fact that our island is so small compare to other countries and we still produce, fighters, singers, actors and athletes in any sport speaks for itself. And as for ODLH=gay he doesn't even like being mexican't, thus the reason he lives oh yeah in PR and is married to a Oh yeah PR woman.... There goes your idol..Thread closed

Oscar's daddy and mother were both Mexicans, if Oscar ain't mexican, 80% of the mexican posters here aren't mexicans, or they're not real mexicans like Juan Manuel Marquez said about Juan Diaz. He's Mexican technically, but you can't really consider him a Mexican boxer. Like I'm Mexican technically, but I can hardly consider myself a Mexican. I've lived in the US my whole life just like Oscar. Think about the way Mexicans accepted Chavez or Barrera over Oscar. I agree with Marquez, even though that pretty much rules me out from the Mexican crowd.

1. Oscar barely counts as a Mexican boxer 2. Even if he did, he wouldn't be nearly the best. 3. Oscar won Oscar's daddy and mother were both Mexicans, if Oscar ain't mexican, 80% of the mexican posters here aren't mexicans, or they're not real mexicans like Juan Manuel Marquez said about Juan Diaz.

HAHAHA you dumbass you wish... I know tons of PRicans that are born in PR, come to U.S. to get an education and then go back to PR to command high salaries and top jobs with their stateside degrees. Don't give me that b.s. that PR gives anything to U.S. it DOESN'T, but US is responsible for you having a per capita salaries and economy on par with us whereas Mexico is far behind so yes it evens out the fact that Mexico has a far bigger population Oh Really? It gives them soldiers, plenty of them, with a storied history in all wars since they became owners of this piece of land. We give them 29.99 interest rates on the major retail chains (most of whom have had their best selling stores in PR), or don't you think the lobby groups for these big players have no say on our status? We give them cheap, specialized labor for the pharmaceutical industries. We will become the "bio-island" of the world, competing with global players in biomedical research and engineering. You don't think that has something to do with keeping us around, or would you rather we give away that resource to Spain, or Venezuela or some other world player? Until recently, they used Vieques as an artillery range at their leisure, contaminating the waters and land of that island with no consequence. We give MAJOR money in donations to federal government candidates in elections. Get an education, then give an opinion.

This question was already settled in 1999 and Puerto Rico won. /end thread 1. Oscar barely counts as a Mexican boxer 2. Even if he did, he wouldn't be nearly the best. 3. Oscar won

I respect PR fighters to the fullest and grew up watching the great rivalries between Mexico and PR in the boxing ring. When you break it down to who has the best fighter in an all time list, I think it would be tough to surpass JCC , Finito Lopez or Sanchez by any PR boxer. I think those three are better than almost any Latino fighter with the exception of Duran.

It's a tough call, I think puerto rican fighters are great. I think mexican fighters are great...someone else said cuban fighters, Argentina produces some elite fighters too......if you would have to rate them like you would in a soccer match it would be those four.

Why did Tito have so much trouble hurting Hopkins when he had such an easy time hurting Joppy who was straight schooling him till his phenomenal left hook landed. Weird huh? Tito ruined some good fighters with illegal wraps, it isn't questionable it is the truth. The guy who did his wraps said he always did them that way, which was illegal. So it is difficult to say how Tito would have done if he fought fairly. So be careful now both countries have cheaters. I am a fan of boxing but this is ridiculous who cares which country has better boxers. I love boxing down care about the skin color, or country or whatever else. I am glad countries celebrate their boxing and that they have a awesome rivalry that us fans capitalize on but be serious we are fans of the sport. Who has hurt Hopkins anyway? Never saw Joppy schooling Trinidad in that fight, he did throw like 100 punches in the round after the knock down but in the end it worked against him

Tito Trinidad and Julio Cesar Chavez.

I haven't read this entire thread, sorry feel tired from coming back from work, but this is so silly. The number of PR and Mexican champs is almost the same, yet Mexico has like 90-100 million people more. If you go by capita- Cuba, PR, and Argentina have had many more champs per capita. Puerto Rico has only like 4 million and Mexico well over 100 million. mexico fans say Chavez beat puerto ricans. How many mexicans did Benitez and Trinidad beat. Juan Maneul Lopez is already doing that. Salvador Sanchez beat Gomez, But Gomez had already murdered like a dozen mexicans. Cotto also murdered like a dozen mexicans until one came in with a plaster of paris. How many Mexican Heavyweight or Cruiserweight champs have their been? NONE. Puerto Rico had Carlos Deleon at cruiser and Ruiz at HW. Also Oquendo was going to be HW champ until the judges gave Chris Byrd a gift decision at HW. Co-sign with this

Yessir, Mexico is winning. PR is just a damn island. It would be embarrassing if PR had more boxers.