Sorry to bring up PPV #'s, but...

Then he wasn't guaranteed 40 million, he could potentially get at least 40 million. He was guaranteed 22 million up front for fighting him and then his split for the other things on top of that, which means he was guaranteed 22 million with potential to earn a lot more. There was a bit of a problem at the begginning and they sorted it out, and Floyd did say once that if his PPV does significantly better then he might ask for the lions share, that could have been talk but its there. At the end of the day, if they agreed on 50/50 before and the buys do around the same, they would keep is at 50/50, if one does significantly better, then one person could turn around and say things have changed and demand more, whether its Floyd or Manny. Be objective. No, one or the other will go into cotorted discussions as to the respective merits-or otherwise- of their various opponents, and dissect the resulst of THEIR fights and drawing power. These two fighters have rubbed each other up the wrong way and will use any excuse to "rub it in" to each other. I believe that this was originally started by the jealousy of the Mayweathers, and their desire to pull Manny P. down to their level. He was getting too much international adulation. The whole world was talking about him. And all inspired by Bob Arum, their bete noir.

honestly I think it suits best to outsell Pac/Clottey//Pac/Cotto.. reason being..bargaining chip..Floyd says "okay even though I outsold your last 2 ppvs..I will still give you 50/50 if you agree to the OST testing" ..that leaves the options to either a)accept..b)reject.. c)accept a smaller split, with cut off date on testing. (wishful thinking maybe..but it could work!) but remember Arum came out and said If Pac/Clottey outsells Mays next fight..they would be demanding a bigger split..only after that Floyd came back with that same statement..I always wondered why Arum would say that (making things worse!) and knowing Clottey wasnt a real draw..I guess he really thought Pac could carry the whole thing.. now we must remember Mosley was set to appear on HBO championship boxing just a little over 3 months ago..hasnt been on PPV in forever..was only guaranteed 3 mil(range?) to split with Berto..and his PPVs have never been huge..so dont mistake who the draw was in the SSM/PBF fight..

look at Tyde with his chest puffed out because they beat the hawks and the bobcats :D :lol1: i hope you're ready for phoenix tho. i think they'll give you all you can handle. they're not fetuses like OKC, and they're not beat up and banged up like utah... :dance:

it's Tyrel's fault true story it'll be matt barnes' fault, for what happens in June, mak.... :D

it happens around here :lol1: Suppose, I should of known better.

This thread has gone the wrong way, its just turned into the same shit. it happens around here :lol1:

This thread has gone the wrong way, its just turned into the same shit.

dont give that BS. Everytime Floyd was asked if he would fight Cotto, he said Cotto wasn't a PPV draw and that was the exact same shiit his fans where saying on here and NOW that Pac does over a million with him, its because Cotto's ALWAYS been a draw? Not to mention that Floyd fans were saying the fight wouldnt sell shit because the 24/7 was "boring" and Cotto was a robot with no personality which was why Floyd didn't fight him. And don't forget, Schaefer HIMSELF said that Mayweather/Mosley has been the most heavily promoted fight in GBP history. Not only that, Pac actually fought someone with virtually NO fan base and also with NO 24/7 and did 700K. How much did Floyd's last fight do with someone and no 24/7? 350K with Baldomir. 50/50 or retire. at the time, cotto wasn't a draw, in floyd's mind. remember, floyd made 30-40 to fight oscar? he wouldn't have made that much to fight cotto. at that point, cotto was still undefeated, and i don't think arum would've been willing to give floyd more than a 50/50 split for cotto, which means, he would've only made about HALF of what he made for fighting oscar. floyd probably makes "oscar" money fighting shane last week, b/c shane was had in negotiations, and probably got somewhere around a 65-35 split. you honestly think arum would've done that for a mayweather-cotto matchup? i'm not saying cotto is a HUGE draw, at this point, but he's still third behind mayweather and pacquiao. just a very distant third.

You dudes try to compare the JMM fights so this shit is fair game. You guys sure cant take your own medicine. You guys? I could care less about the numbers because I'm not making any money. Show me a thread where I compared a superstar Floyd to an unknown Pacquiao.

Why are you comparing a prime Pacquiao to a young Floyd who was still trying to make a name for himself? You dudes try to compare the JMM fights so this shit is fair game. You guys sure cant take your own medicine.

i like how Schaeffer was talkin 4mil buys :D TR also said Pac vs. Clottey was going to sell 2 million.

dont give that BS. Everytime Floyd was asked if he would fight Cotto, he said Cotto wasn't a PPV draw and that was the exact same shiit his fans where saying on here and NOW that Pac does over a million with him, its because Cotto's ALWAYS been a draw? Not to mention that Floyd fans were saying the fight wouldnt sell shit because the 24/7 was "boring" and Cotto was a robot with no personality which was why Floyd didn't fight him. And don't forget, Schaefer HIMSELF said that Mayweather/Mosley has been the most heavily promoted fight in GBP history. Not only that, Pac actually fought someone with virtually NO fan base and also with NO 24/7 and did 700K. How much did Floyd's last fight do with someone and no 24/7? 350K with Baldomir. 50/50 or retire. Why are you comparing a prime Pacquiao to a young Floyd who was still trying to make a name for himself?

i like how Schaeffer was talkin 4mil buys :D To be honest that was just crazy talk.

not really. cotto has always been a bigger draw than shane. cotto is probably 3rd, as a draw, behind manny and floyd, even though the "aura" surronding cotto has been worn off a bit due to his recent performances.... there's still no argument that cotto was/is a bigger draw than mosley. dont give that BS. Everytime Floyd was asked if he would fight Cotto, he said Cotto wasn't a PPV draw and that was the exact same shiit his fans where saying on here and NOW that Pac does over a million with him, its because Cotto's ALWAYS been a draw? Not to mention that Floyd fans were saying the fight wouldnt sell shit because the 24/7 was "boring" and Cotto was a robot with no personality which was why Floyd didn't fight him. And don't forget, Schaefer HIMSELF said that Mayweather/Mosley has been the most heavily promoted fight in GBP history. Not only that, Pac actually fought someone with virtually NO fan base and also with NO 24/7 and did 700K. How much did Floyd's last fight do with someone and no 24/7? 350K with Baldomir. 50/50 or retire.

promoters fee? aint that some shit...even GBP had to pay Floyd after fronting all the promotional parts of the fight They split the money because Mayweather Promotions also promoted the fight. You always see Floyd's logo everywhere when he fights because his company is also part of the promotion team. GBP does most of the promotion work and front all the money for the fights. They end up getting millions and their money back.

my initial thought 'what a hypocrite...another ppv thread' jk yea, i agree...i think that if PBF-Shane would have hit 2mil buys, then PAC-PBF doesnt happen (still dont think it'll happen but it prevented another roadblock from forming) :lol1: You make a joke in every single post don't you? :D Cool, I think OST might get in the way, but its one of those things that I actually strongly agree with... I think its a good thing to have those tests (thats JMO though, others may be different). fact of the matter is, if Floyd was the bigger draw, Mosley/May should have beaten Cotto/Pac. but its not looking that way so 50/50 is fair. No matter how hard Floyd fanatics try to spin it. To be honest, I am kinda sick of the who is the bigger draw shit now... they are both huge draws... they are both the best out there, the fight is in demand because of both guys so 50/50 is the way forward, period. At first I didn't mind talking about it, but it just got way out of hand.

fact of the matter is, if Floyd was the bigger draw, Mosley/May should have beaten Cotto/Pac. but its not looking that way so 50/50 is fair. No matter how hard Floyd fanatics try to spin it. not really. cotto has always been a bigger draw than shane. cotto is probably 3rd, as a draw, behind manny and floyd, even though the "aura" surronding cotto has been worn off a bit due to his recent performances.... there's still no argument that cotto was/is a bigger draw than mosley.

Very nice, I remember when Floyd was retired and they talked to him about fighting Shane and he said he wanted a guarantee of 20 million and people laughed at him, now if its true hes getting 23 then thats excellent pay. well ppl say he "ducked" shane when he came back, and fought jmm instead. what ppl fail to mention, is that he was offered a guarantee of 8 million to fight shane at the time.....

fact of the matter is, if Floyd was the bigger draw, Mosley/May should have beaten Cotto/Pac. but its not looking that way so 50/50 is fair. No matter how hard Floyd fanatics try to spin it.

promoters fee? aint that some shit...even GBP had to pay Floyd after fronting all the promotional parts of the fight What are your thoughts on my OP Mak?