paul williams rise to the p4p #3 spot, ???????????? i dont see it

paul is supposed to be #3 p4p according to Hbo and hbos sheep i will tell you his career in a nutshell i havent put williams in my p4p and with another strange win , i will continue to leave his ass out, its like hbo protects williams so williams can become their next american showcase fighter, lol, hes 6 foot 4 or 5 and cant beat martinez properly(maybe lost to sergio according to many people) and cintron(got a split decision sideshow lost in pauls embarassing victory vs journeyman status cintron), then paul loses to quintana(a welweight journeyman with a horrible chin ), the one victory he does have vs margarito was won by paul in the first 6 rounds but marg proceeded to embarass paul in the next 5 of 6 rounds, williams best win vs wright is a win with little validation cause he fought a wright who was fat and didnt box at all anymore, a garbage version of wright:smashfrea

Comments (20)

DRORGYY

**** no he aint #3 imo..........

15y ago

Tha_Greatest9502

Dude, if he goes back down to 147 then he should drop down notches on the list. I've been a fan of Paul Williams here lately because he fights like a warrior inside the ring and I know a lot of the Flomos used him as Floyd's viper security system. But about the first part of my post. He's losing me as a fan because of his actions. And I think he may already be past his peak because he's been hit so much. damn, you said more than a usual fan says, you are unbiased as **** or something

15y ago

Iceta_Lives

Not a gift decision, I had Dawson winning a very close fight. If you going to call that a gift then call the Martinez fight a gift decision for P-Will. And, he clearly beat Tarver both times. Clearly. Overall Dawson has a better resume then P-Will also. They are neck and neck with each other basically in my view but I just give the edge to Paul because he has the edge in activity. Things could change though if Dawson beats Pascal impressively like I think he'll do. I have a top ten list of my own and if Chad wins that fight impressively, and Williams doesn't sign to fight another top opponent Chad will bump him on my list.

15y ago

Carpe_Diem

No he is not, offensively Dawson has skills, but his style is more defensive mode. And, defensively P-Will can not come close to Dawson. The only thing P-WIll has over Dawson it is workrate, volume punching, and stamina. That is it. If your P4P list is about skills or resume or both then overall Dawson has the better overall skill then P-Will, Dawson has the better overall resume than P-Will has. I was kidding, man. No way Paul Williams is better Boxer than Dawson.

15y ago

jrosales13

Because he's more active and Dawson has had his off nights too like when he got that gift against Glen Johnson and looked underwhelming against Tarver both times. Not a gift decision, I had Dawson winning a very close fight. If you going to call that a gift then call the Martinez fight a gift decision for P-Will. And, he clearly beat Tarver both times. Clearly. Overall Dawson has a better resume then P-Will also.

15y ago

jrosales13

Because he's a more complete all-around Boxer than Chad...:dunno: No he is not, offensively Dawson has skills, but his style is more defensive mode. And, defensively P-Will can not come close to Dawson. The only thing P-WIll has over Dawson it is workrate, volume punching, and stamina. That is it. If your P4P list is about skills or resume or both then overall Dawson has the better overall skill then P-Will, Dawson has the better overall resume than P-Will has.

15y ago

Iceta_Lives

Because he's a more complete all-around Boxer than Chad...:dunno: Because he's more active and Dawson has had his off nights too like when he got that gift against Glen Johnson and looked underwhelming against Tarver both times.

15y ago

Carpe_Diem

I don't see how you can put him ahead of Chad Dawson. Because he's a more complete all-around Boxer than Chad...:dunno:

15y ago

jrosales13

I don't see how you can put him ahead of Chad Dawson.

15y ago

Iceta_Lives

hes staying active but he actively keeps looking like a fighter whose career is going nowhere and he looks like the luckiest fighter in boxing today, lucky hes american so he can get hbo to bail his ass out and hype his sorry ass to #3 which he doesnt deserve Dude, if he goes back down to 147 then he should drop down notches on the list. I've been a fan of Paul Williams here lately because he fights like a warrior inside the ring and I know a lot of the Flomos used him as Floyd's viper security system. But about the first part of my post. He's losing me as a fan because of his actions. And I think he may already be past his peak because he's been hit so much.

15y ago

trk

Aside from Mayweather and Pacquiao, almost all the top fighters right now are either old fighters who are past prime or young fighters who haven't really proven themselves. That is how a relatively mediocre fighter like Williams gets ranked in the top 5. You look at him fight and he does not seem like he deserves to be ranked that high, but who is out there that deserves to be ranked higher?

15y ago

Tha_Greatest9502

You are entitled to your opinion. One reason why I try to give the guy the benefit of the doubt though is because he doesn't take long to get back in the ring and he stays pretty active. He's also fought four guys in a row ranked in the top five of their division. Say what you want about Phillips and Wright, but Winky was still in the top five at 160 I think. And Phillips had just beaten Spinks. The better names on his resume above 147 are Martinez and Cintron of course though. hes staying active but he actively keeps looking like a fighter whose career is going nowhere and he looks like the luckiest fighter in boxing today, lucky hes american so he can get hbo to bail his ass out and hype his sorry ass to #3 which he doesnt deserve

15y ago

Iceta_Lives

honestly, its like he doesnt even exist. like no one cares about or respects Dawson which is a fukkin sham. people need to give the man his due. Due for what? For losing to a 40 year old who had no legs regardless of what happened the second time? He takes so damn long to get back in the ring and that's why he shouldn't be in the top 3? He's good, don't get me wrong. But Dawson is where he's at because he doesn't fight often enough.

16y ago

Tha_Greatest9502

i agree. dawson is that deal. i won't argue anybody for having williams in their p4p lists, but he's not a top 5 guy.... dawson is better than williams and dawson isnt that overated as williams is, why does hbo instead not try to hype dawson up instead of paul, less stupid embarassing victories for an hbo fighter will come out of this

16y ago

Tha_Greatest9502

it seems like something terrible always seems to come out of a victory for williams, i dont think like a idiot and think cintron jumped out of the ring(as if he was asking to quit) , i think cintron fell out accidently but im beginning to think hbo paid off cintron to jump out of the ring in a acting sequence gone horribly wrong that it looked like cintron jumped out. i dont understand how wiliams can be on anyones top #15 that said, cintron fell out accidently

16y ago

Evil_Abed

Paul Williams will be MW champion of the world. That is all.

16y ago

jai_mari078

I would have a lot more tolerance for the guy if he fought Middleweights and started calling out Super Middleweights like he's supposed to. He seems more content to call out guys who didn't start out as natural Welter Weights(Yes, yes I know that Paul can make the weight spare me). I guess he wants that big pay day, but honestly I haven't been that impressed. Im not big Williams guy and i thought Martinez beat him, but if he can make 147 I have no problem with him fighting there. He moves up to get fights, but if he can make the weight i don't see the problem.

16y ago

geribeetus

i agree. dawson is that deal. i won't argue anybody for having williams in their p4p lists, but he's not a top 5 guy.... p4p lists aren't anything to take seriously anyway. the win over martinez was debatable but a win is a win when it gets put on his record. martinez is now the 160 ring champion so that really boosts pwill i agree that pwill isn't top 5, but it's just an opinion in the end

16y ago

FLY_TY

honestly, its like he doesnt even exist. like no one cares about or respects Dawson which is a fukkin sham. people need to give the man his due. i agree. dawson is that deal. i won't argue anybody for having williams in their p4p lists, but he's not a top 5 guy....

16y ago

DLT

I just don't think how somebody could have Williams ahead of Dawson. Resume wise and skill wise Dawson is better. So Dawson should be ahead of Williams But, P4P is all a mythical opinion based ranking anyways so I guess it doesn't matter. honestly, its like he doesnt even exist. like no one cares about or respects Dawson which is a fukkin sham. people need to give the man his due.

16y ago