I want the general consensus of the Pacquiao people!!!

Why can't some of you get it through your thick skull: peds can be cycled out of the system prior to the post fight blood test and concentrated HGH can't even be detected by urine or a single blood test; it can only be detected accurately by interval blood tests. There is no such thing as being "blood drained" unless you cut a fukkin artery.. Similarly Pac already gives blood as close to 8 or 9 days before the fight for his medical checkup. He did before the Hatton fight and was super strong in that fight, so the "needles weaken me" excuse does NOT fly. He doesn't avoid blood tests, he avoids doping tests. That is fact. He gives blood for his health checkup before every fight. So what it really is homes? If he clean why can't he just take the fukkin test? Oh nevermind, some of you cats are just fukkin hopeless. it was more like 24 days dont lie.

Why can't some of you get it through your thick skull: peds can be cycled out of the system prior to the post fight blood test and concentrated HGH can't even be detected by urine or a single blood test; it can only be detected accurately by interval blood tests. so freddie roach can predict how long the fight will be so they wont test positive seconds after the fight

What is the main reason/theory why Pac shouldnt take the tests. For the record, 99% of me believes pac is clean. 1% is left simply for potential that any human being could use PEDs. If I was Pac, and someone tried to tarnish my Leagacy and my accomplishments fabricating shit out of thin air because of fear of what might happen should his little boy get in the ring with a primed fighter who has the skills to take this son into waters he never been before...I can understand it. But not only do you insult the guy, but then you slap him in the face, "and oh by the way you have to take Olympic style drug testing" ( if I was pac I would have told you to fuk off too)... Pac don't need to take no test...man is clean...never had no history of being dirty...and there's no proof to validate any of mayweather Sr.'s comments... Man is just scared plain and simple. Pac has passed all the test that NSAC has issued, and has never failed (further more this boxing, not the Olympics).

The bottom line is that if Floyd is so adamant about changing the rules of this sport, he really needs to appeal to the various boxing commissions (starting in Las Vegas) and get them to implement Olympic style testing. As Pacquiao's team has stated, Floyd Mayweather does not run boxing, so he has no authority to impose his own rules; regardless if they make sense to a certain lot or even all of the fans. Regardless of who you prefer as a fighter, it makes zero sense at all to suggest that Pacquiao is in any way at fault for this fight not coming off so far. Pacquiao fans have argued that this fight was a sure thing until Floyd came up with his drug testing demand. The truth is, however, that Floyd would have simply stonewalled with something else. Even if Pacquiao submits to giving a blood test ten minutes before the fight, Floyd's team will kill this fight by asking for a ridiculous purse cut. Listen to Floyd and his team's statements for proof of this. They know that Roach and Arum are going to get Pacquiao to accept Floyd's 14-day cut off, and they are getting ready to put another road block in the way. The Floyd faithful won't see it that way, of course. They will insist that Floyd is the cash cow and that Pacquiao should be ecstatic to get his 30% cut. :smashfrea

What is the main reason/theory why Pac shouldnt take the tests. For the record, 99% of me believes pac is clean. 1% is left simply for potential that any human being could use PEDs. Pac doesn't work for Floyd.

pacquiao is willing to take the blood test in the locker room after the fight so you will know if he is on something Why can't some of you get it through your thick skull: peds can be cycled out of the system prior to the post fight blood test and concentrated HGH can't even be detected by urine or a single blood test; it can only be detected accurately by interval blood tests. There is no such thing as being "blood drained" unless you cut a fukkin artery.. Similarly Pac already gives blood as close to 8 or 9 days before the fight for his medical checkup. He did before the Hatton fight and was super strong in that fight, so the "needles weaken me" excuse does NOT fly. He doesn't avoid blood tests, he avoids doping tests. That is fact. He gives blood for his health checkup before every fight. So what it really is homes? If he clean why can't he just take the fukkin test? Oh nevermind, some of you cats are just fukkin hopeless.

its funny how floyd fans have no proof pac is on roids just accusations so ill stat my opinion on the issue. when pac beat hatton floyd sr said that pac was on roids that is how this has started i think sr said it because he did so much trash talking before the fight and the mayweathers think they are the best and cant admit they lost so they came up with excuses. then pac beats cotto it looks like its going to be pac mayweather and floyd sr said the roid bs to avoid the fight. to all you floyd fans pacquiao is willing to take the blood test in the locker room after the fight so you will know if he is on something and do you mayweather fans really think he wants to clean up the sport of boxing with this ost ****ing bs all he cares about his money and himself he admits that all the time

Who should Manny fight if the Floyd fight does not get made is that the question? If so JMM at 135 Bradly at 140 And, I wouldn't mind Foreman after he beats Cotto at 154.

I love manny pacquiao, hate his fans. Whats the answer? Cotto in a rematch at 154 if he beats Yuri? see you don't want an answer...you just wants someone to co-sign you by saying Manny only option is Floyd. Alot of us, including me disagree but the problem is your asking a question when you have your mind set on Floyd is Pac's only option. IF you believe that cool...but why even ask the question if thats what you truly believe. I'm sorry but your a nothing but clown....peace.

how am i riding their egos. so you're fairly neutral with this peds issue? cool...good for you.

that is your opinion and i respect that. But are you a pathologist or some kind od medical expert to back up your opinion? If not, then i need a qualified person to say that it does not affect (blood extraction) to a certain type of people. Go and ask the blood expert so that you will know... Its not my opinion. Theres no link on the internet to a Hematologist . The amount of blood they take in each tests is like .0001 percent of the total blood in our body.

the amount of blood they take is realllllly insignificant. and you really believe that pac wiil kill floyd in the ring without the usada thing?

so what's the point starting this thread? if you wanna see the fight happening don't ride their egos...in your case it's floyd's. how am i riding their egos.

the amount of blood they take is realllllly insignificant. that is your opinion and i respect that. But are you a pathologist or some kind od medical expert to back up your opinion? If not, then i need a qualified person to say that it does not affect (blood extraction) to a certain type of people. Go and ask the blood expert so that you will know...

relax bro, i wanna see this fight for boxing. These guys arent bigger then boxing, they are boxing. This is why they need eachother, and we, as boxing fans, need them to fight too. so what's the point starting this thread? if you wanna see the fight happening don't ride their egos...in your case it's floyd's.

It could be true that taking blood will weaken him. is there a doctor or at least a pathologist in here to explain? it is just so funny that soME pEOPLe BEELIEVE IN FLOYD THAT PAC COULD BE ROIDING AND MIGHT KILL HIM IN THE RING THUS USADA IS A MUST TO MAKE SURE PAC WILL NOT ROID, YET THEY DON'T RESPECT PAC'S REASON THAT TAKING BLOOD WILL WEAKEN HIM. WHERE IS THE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD THING IF ONE FIGHTER IS WEAK DUE TO BLOOD EXTRACTION? JUST WONDER IF IT REALLY AFFECT SHANE LAST MAY 1... The amount of blood they take is realllllly insignificant.

admit what? that floyd and pac need each other? that's for them to decide not the fans. those 2 are prima donnas and a lot of the fans are riding their big egos especially in this forum. if they wanna fight they'll find a way to fight but if they think their egos are bigger than the sports then **** em both. **** em fans too (like you) who doesn't tire of the bickerings and stupid debates about whose ego (floyd or pac) should prevail. relax bro, i wanna see this fight for boxing. These guys arent bigger then boxing, they are boxing. This is why they need eachother, and we, as boxing fans, need them to fight too.

What is the main reason/theory why Pac shouldnt take the tests. For the record, 99% of me believes pac is clean. 1% is left simply for potential that any human being could use PEDs. am answering this question, and i refered u thah thread why pac shouldnt take it because the ost demand smells fishy with floyds counter offer of cut off date. u say u like pac, did i say ur a flomo? i said read how few flomos replied there. did i quote you in my reply where u ask who is there to left? clear ur mind kid. ur exposing urself a bit hahahaha i said read into my thread, i didnt explicity state it. wanted it to come out. that manny doesnt need floyd, and sure enough the second poster did it for me. And if you tell me to read something, then your associating me with it.

Since im jsut a stupid floyd fan i would never admit floyd needs pac right? Well if you read the thread ive said multiple times he does need pac, cause i think martinez at 154 is too dangerous for him. WHy cant pac fans admit it? admit what? that floyd and pac need each other? that's for them to decide not the fans. those 2 are prima donnas and a lot of the fans are riding their big egos especially in this forum. if they wanna fight they'll find a way to fight but if they think their egos are bigger than the sports then **** em both. **** em fans too (like you) who doesn't tire of the bickerings and stupid debates about whose ego (floyd or pac) should prevail.

It could be true that taking blood will weaken him. is there a doctor or at least a pathologist in here to explain? it is just so funny that soME pEOPLe BEELIEVE IN FLOYD THAT PAC COULD BE ROIDING AND MIGHT KILL HIM IN THE RING THUS USADA IS A MUST TO MAKE SURE PAC WILL NOT ROID, YET THEY DON'T RESPECT PAC'S REASON THAT TAKING BLOOD WILL WEAKEN HIM. WHERE IS THE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD THING IF ONE FIGHTER IS WEAK DUE TO BLOOD EXTRACTION? JUST WONDER IF IT REALLY AFFECT SHANE LAST MAY 1...