I mean seriously how can a blood test hurt Pacman more?
Look at these 3 fighters.
Mosley- Oldest of the bunch, Biggest, Fights comfortable at 154
Mayweather- Natural 147, I dont think its hard 2 make weight but I dont think it's easy either.
Pacquiao- Naturally the smallest, Could make 140 comfortable
Now if Mosley struggled to make 147 to began with, which we all know he did. Add atleast 6 Blood tests or more along with struggling to make weight. Take into account he hasnt been 147 and fought since January of 2009.
Mayweather is comfortable at 147. He makes it easier than the bigger WW's but we all know that he couldnt make 144 comfortable. He's always in shape and probably weights 160 on the street at most. Obviously a blood test didnt effect him much even a day before the fight.
If Pacquiao agrees to fight Mayweather and take the blood tests he has sum what of an advantage especially with a 14 day cut off. He can still make 140 easy, If he fought Floyd it would be at 147. Pacquiao is like a small roy jones back when he fought at Heavyweight. He can make 147 with no problem at all about being weight drained.
So what is a little blood 14 days b4 the fight for someone who doesnt have any problem at all making weight? Floyd is at a bigger disadvantage imo him being the bigger guy cutting weight.
What do u think?
Well if Pac feels is will weaken him and Floyd does not. Its all mentally with Manny. If you go into a fight thinking a blood test will make you weak, you will be weak.
to you it is.... to him, it does affect his trainiing schedule since he'll need to fully recover to get back to hard trining and at around that time its when it's most needed.......there would'nt be any excuses if the fight goes by the commision rules in the first place.......
That's a really big excuse.
The Blood test is all a mental thing to decide who dictates the fight. I really doubt Mayweather could care less about the test because in his head he'd win either way. To Mayweather it's all about getting inside Pacquiao's head because Mayweather is the type to do that.
I doubt Pacquiao cares about taking the tests either. I really doubt it effects him. For him and Arum it's all about standing their ground and not taking orders from Mayweather. They know that's the only way to win the mental battle
mosley gave blood 4 times...and he had more problems with the urine tests..being dehydrated and all. interesting that blood tests would pose less problems than the urine tests.
That's because you can take blood from the body at any given time. When your weight drained to the point your dehydrated and cant drink anything I guess taking a piss would be hard?
did'nt you say it would affect both pac and floyd the same way about blood test?.......pac has already had a bad experience about that(1st morales fight)..has floyd?......how do you know they both wont have a problem when in fact pac has had bad experiences with it?......this is what i believe, pac is not gonna be 100% esp mentally if the blood testing is pushed so close to the fight......he has proven that to himself in the past!
But 2 weeks is plenty enough time! 1 Day and 14 days is a big difference.. It takes less then 2 hours to replenish the amount of blood they take.. Take it from him at nite time after training so he can sleep on it... ok there's no more excuses cuz anything else is.
did'nt you say it would affect both pac and floyd the same way about blood test?.......pac has already had a bad experience about that(1st morales fight)..has floyd?......how do you know they both wont have a problem when in fact pac has had bad experiences with it?......this is what i believe, pac is not gonna be 100% esp mentally if the blood testing is pushed so close to the fight......he has proven that to himself in the past!
Why are you against OST? Is it because it's Floyd?
I mean seriously how can a blood test hurt Pacman more?
Look at these 3 fighters.
Mosley- Oldest of the bunch, Biggest, Fights comfortable at 154
Mayweather- Natural 147, I dont think its hard 2 make weight but I dont think it's easy either.
Pacquiao- Naturally the smallest, Could make 140 comfortable
Now if Mosley struggled to make 147 to began with, which we all know he did. Add atleast 6 Blood tests or more along with struggling to make weight. Take into account he hasnt been 147 and fought since January of 2009.
Mayweather is comfortable at 147. He makes it easier than the bigger WW's but we all know that he couldnt make 144 comfortable. He's always in shape and probably weights 160 on the street at most. Obviously a blood test didnt effect him much even a day before the fight.
If Pacquiao agrees to fight Mayweather and take the blood tests he has sum what of an advantage especially with a 14 day cut off. He can still make 140 easy, If he fought Floyd it would be at 147. Pacquiao is like a small roy jones back when he fought at Heavyweight. He can make 147 with no problem at all about being weight drained.
So what is a little blood 14 days b4 the fight for someone who doesnt have any problem at all making weight? Floyd is at a bigger disadvantage imo him being the bigger guy cutting weight.
What do u think?
mosley gave blood 4 times...and he had more problems with the urine tests..being dehydrated and all. interesting that blood tests would pose less problems than the urine tests.
Pacquiao: Because it's a disadvanateg to me, because he bigger then me.
That's all he every says. He's beating bigger guys but then says this bullshit all the time. Manny: He's bigger than me, he's stronger, he's a tough opponent.
so pacquiao is saying floyds contract is garbage
come up with something better
if all roads lead to maywaether lets see how much his next fight does
without pacquiao ...
its a known fact mayweather has needed oscar, mosley to
sell his fights. if he's so good let him fight berto. see how well it does.
yea...except mosley has never been a big draw. floyd did better numbers with mosley than either oscar vs mosley fight. actually floyd has surpassed oscar as a ppv draw...career wise his numbers are better than oscars. only one fighter has done a better average per ppv over their careers and thats mike tyson.
you and pac have the same mentality bout blood being drawn , right?.........where's you proof it would'nt affect him when he has proof he affecte him in the past...it might be an excuse to you but to him it 's not....
Yo your not making sense. When Pacquiao lost to Morales he was the underdog moving up in weight and he got blood tested the the same day of the fight! Everyone has a different excuse when they lose. Pacquiao's was the blood test.
All your telling me is that if Pacquiao and Mayweather do fight that you already believe Pacquiao will lose if he takes the tests and that's gonna be your excuse after the fight regardless how healthy Pacquiao actually was
both fighters should come in at their best
any less is not worth watching
I agree 100 %
But even without the random tests, you still know they take a blood test directly after the fight? If they both took them 2 weeks before the fight it will effect them both the same way and come fight night both would still be 100 %
Mayweather wanting it 14 days and Roach and pacman are agreeing to 3 days afterwards? really? That only raises suspicions for some people
its obvious mayweathe did his rsearch
just like mosley's nose job. i mean who knew about that ?
so he found out pacquiao wont be at his best with blood tests
so he keeps pushing for it
even if pacquiao agrees he wont come in at his best ...
good post by phil
Why won't he? The worst thing that happens to Pacquiao if he takes the test is that it'll get inside his head. Cuz it's a damn fact that taking a teaspoon of blood 2 weeks b4 an event wont affect you in the least bit !
Besides when he fought Morales the first time, he moved up to 130
Well Roach says (and you gotta take what he says with a grain of salt) that he loses Pacquiao for about 3 days in training after blood is being withdrawn. Whatever that means it doesn't sound like something positive in the lead up to one of the biggest fights in history.
Listen, noone really knows what's what other than Pacquiao and those around him. If everyone was required to take these tests and Pacquiao said "no i won't do it cause I don't like giving blood" I would be pissed as ****. I'd say that other boxers might not like giving blood too but they are all forced to do it anyways and if everyone backed out of fights because of OST, then there would be no fights.
But that's not whats going on here. We're in a situation where 99.9% of the time there is no blood drug tests in the weeks leading up to the fight. So if I'm Pacquiao and I don't like to give blood and my opponent says I'm a cheater and he won't fight me unless I give blood, I'd tell him to **** off.
Thats all true. But when discrediting your hard earned wins by saying you were on drugs would anger me. It angered Pacman to the point he was going to file a lawsuit against anyone who mentioned Steroids and his name in the same sentence.
Manny Pacquiao is supposed to be a role model to little kids. But now you have People doubting his wins and asking him if he's on drugs. And the longer he refuses to take them the more people are gonna think it. Pacquiao walks down the street and his main focus is winning Congress right now. You know what everyone asks him when they see him? ( And I do mean EVERYONE) When are you gonna fight Floyd Mayweather?
He could clear his name, Make 50+ million, And possibly go down as the best fighter who ever laced up a pair of gloves with this fight.
Idk, it could just be me, but i'd agree to fight him
so pacquiao is saying floyds contract is garbage
come up with something better
if all roads lead to maywaether lets see how much his next fight does
without pacquiao ...
its a known fact mayweather has needed oscar, mosley to
sell his fights. if he's so good let him fight berto. see how well it does.
He would do real good numbers with Berto lol , fuk you haters are dickheads .
exactly so if he says it weakens him, he isn't talking out of his ass. He has given blood several times before.
I don't buy that Pacquiao and Roach decided that they would spread this lie about him being weakened from blood testing as a trick be able to use HGH in the last 20 days of training against Mayweather because they know that it'll make all the difference. It's a little far-fetched tbh.
Yea But Roach and Pacman is basing all of this off the Morales loss. Only time he had to take a blood test the day b4 and he lost.. Ok so to Pacman it's probably a mental thing.
But how about the 14 day cutoff date? Cuz really the amount of blood that they take, you replenish that within an hour anyway. So 14 days is a good thing. Probly the Best Floyd will agree to
doesnt even matter. these are all just part of mayweathers normal mind games. he might agree in the end to have no blood tests.
if you dont think so why would mayweather evencare about mosleys nose job
its all just part of him getting into the oppoennts head
Hey I agree with that too. I always said that this blood test crap from Mayweather is just part of him trying to get in Pacquiao's head. But that's part of the game of boxing. Trash talking and Mind games been there forever.
the effect that blood withdrawal has on people varies. Even two people in the same family sometimes react completely differently. Weight draining could be a factor and there could be many others. I've seen people feint from getting a vaccine.
Yea your right that could be true. I do personally think that being weight drained would effect you the most. But you do realize without all this extra blood testing crap that the commission still takes blood from all fighters including Pacquiao and Mayweather? Paquiao probly had blood took from him atleast 100 times or more in his career.
this whole OST thing tells you floyd sees the possibilities pac can do to him.....and he did'nt like it....he found a very unique way to avoid packy.....
Adults problem solve with logic and fact , children think of conspiracy and fantasy and then go home with the shits , plain to see which group your in .