its seems that floyd is taking advantage of pac's stupidity knowing a small dose of blood will weaken his body before the fight ,pac's has his traumatic experience during the fight with morales about blood testing issues, i cant understand why mayweather dont agree with this ?? pacquaio suggested it should be done after the fight with unlimited urine test , so what's wrong with that ?
its seems that floyd is taking advantage of pac's stupidity knowing a small dose of blood will weaken his body before the fight ,pac's has his traumatic experience during the fight with morales about blood testing issues, i cant understand why mayweather dont agree with this ?? pacquaio suggested it should be done after the fight with unlimited urine test , so what's wrong with that ?
Just read my sig bro.
i agree......everyone else is/was ok with the commision rules , why cant floyd now after ten years?......
He doesn't trust their effectiveness, and in all honesty I don't blame him. If I'm buying a house I can send my own people into to do a check over on the house instead of leaving it in the hands of the estate agent.
As fans there is an eagerness to say ''Why can't they just abandoned that line of thinking'' but from a business/money point of view, both Mayweather and Pacquiao have justification in doing what they're doing.
Keep it coming....:boxing:
Why are fact comments avoided by pac fans? Seems like this man knows his stuff, and is pretty credable. But any time facts are brought up they skip rite over and comment on the next. Why is that?
lol.....when you have suspicion you have to go to the right peolpel to deal with it......you just cant expect the one you suspect to do whatever you like to prove his innoncence esp when it does'nt hold water.....
If you feel a term is necessary in a contract to protect your investment you have every right to put it in there. If the other party doesn't want to accept those terms they're within their rights to do so.
Applying that to Mayweather, he has doubts on whether Pacquiao is drug free, to ease those concerns he wants him to take a drug test, he's within his rights to put those terms in the contract. Pacquiao can accept or reject those terms, he rejected them, he's within his rights.
I think people forget that this is a business.
the police represents the commision, the ones with authoirty whch in that case floyd is not/has not.....
You're missing the point. It's not about who represents the commission. It's that if you have a risk through the negotiation it's within your rights to request certain information. If the other party doesn't want to subject to the trials they're free to walk away.
http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/index.ssf/2010/01/usadas_travis_tygart_current_d.html
Grand Rapids Press columnist David Mayo interviewed Tygart this week, after breaking news that a Mayweather-Shane Mosley fight tentatively is ticketed for May 1 in Las Vegas.
Q: If I had 72 hours, could I mask EPO?
A: "Yeah."
Q: If I knew it was coming, I could mask it?
A: "Yeah. Same with steroids."
Q: How quickly could I mask it? What's the shortest time frame, if I knew it was coming, that I could mask it?
A: "I mean, we do no notice. We literally show up, and knock on a door, and we find them."
Q: My question is, if I knew 20 hours before the test, would I have time to mask it? Six hours? One hour? What would it be?
A: "Yep, all that."
Q: If I knew 10 minutes before test, could I mask it?
A: "Yep. If you had some urine and a Whizzinator, 10 minutes before, you could mask it. If you had a catheter, which is not that tough to do, you could do it."
Q: What about blood testing? Could I mask it then?
A: "For transfusions, the 14 days is not going to give you much concern. The evidence of the transfusion will stay in your system longer than the 14 days. But the human growth hormone, for sure not."
Keep it coming....:boxing:
it's the same damn secenario...one acusses the other, the accused has to prove the acussations are'nt true, atleast that's what the peolple who wish he's dirty want him to do.......pac has a grat reputation passing the all standard tests that everyone' else follow....he does'nt need to babysit the mofo who insults him.....
The situation with blood testing is better compared to police checking individuals who work with children............................... Which actually happens.
would you let your neighbor search your house if he accuses you of stealing his watch , or gun , etc just to prove youre innocent?.......
you are confusing legal rights with boxing practices. they are not the same.
if they both dont want to fight under the agreed conditions, then it doesnt have to happen. people can accuse pac of using roids or floyd of demanding uneccesary testing if it doesnt happen, but it is completely different.
where's your proof pac has been on PED"S?......
if he wont take a test i think he has something to hide. common sense. proof now is only circumstantial though.
The same reason why sensible people take STD tests before they go rubberless with a girl.
Knowing that your opponent is on drugs or diseased after they have fked you up isn't exactly useful.
if pac is easy work then I don't even understand why floyd needs OST as a psychological crutch and confidence builder.
if floyd can beat him without peds then let him use peds? great argument.
Is this a serious question? There are a lot of rocket scientist in here i see. Hypothetically, the fight comes off and Pacquiao wins and comes up dirty after the fight? What good does that do for Floyd? He just lost his perfect record to an unclean fighter and he cant get his perfect record back and whatever damage that occurred can't be taken away. In addition, his profitability as a fighter would take a severe hit as well.
as though pacquiao would go through all the promoting, fighting
only to know he'd get no money and even banned if tested positive
as for floyd losing. well the decision can be overturned if any fighter
tested positive so thats not a problem.
just ask one question. would it be worth it for a fighter to promote
and fight a fight only to know he would not get paid, and might
even get banned. why would he bother ? .. hence, the cut off date. Stop the bullshyt dude. He needs a cut off to assure he won't get caught, does this make any sense to u? Have u even entertained this simple thought?
Are u soo blind that u can't even fathom Manny and his team cheating? Freddy has *knowingly* trained fighters on roids, Bob Arum is a convicted crook (bribes), Alex Ariza has yet to put this leagle super special blend on the market, and become a billionair!.. Manny don't know what a roid is? And I don't eat eggs, but I don't know what a egg is,,,, think dude
It won't be an issue any longer. Pacquiao already stated in a radio interview that he is willing to take the test just not the day of the fight. Arum and company are now the ones negotiating for the cut-off date.
If there is an assumption that Manny is the only one that could be affected by these invasive tests, then it's a false assumption. We just saw a Mosley that uncharacteristically run out of gas early and a Mayweather that was not in his full potential. The tests clearly affected both. The only difference is their age. Manny is younger than Mosley.
Like I said these extra tests were unnecessary. We could have seen better performances in that Saturday fight. It will destroy boxing. There has to be better ways.
But if these elements are required, so be it. I'm just saying that both could be weakened. It's even possible that Mayweather may be affected more because he knew that Pac is clean. Not to mention guilt could have psychological repercussions. Stop it, just stop it. Its like listening to ur child saying "I didn't eat the candy" with sugar all over his mouth.
floyd using OST to duck pac. the fight was 100% made until floyd brought up OST id be a fool to think you were that stupid. You know good and damn well OST is not a duck. And you know OST was always there from the start, stip acting dumb dude.
Floyd fans clearly want a level playing field by the false assumption that only
Manny will get weakened by these tests. That's how their hero wants to win
a weakened opponent. What a bunch of clowns. I just hope Manny would
agree.
floyd using OST to duck pac. the fight was 100% made until floyd brought up OST
Bullshit , Roach agreed to it then changed their tune when they couldnt get out of the fight , it was known OST from the beginning was in from the very first draft , how many times do you need to be told something before you get it .
http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/index.ssf/2010/01/usadas_travis_tygart_current_d.html
Grand Rapids Press columnist David Mayo interviewed Tygart this week, after breaking news that a Mayweather-Shane Mosley fight tentatively is ticketed for May 1 in Las Vegas.
Q: If I had 72 hours, could I mask EPO?
A: "Yeah."
Q: If I knew it was coming, I could mask it?
A: "Yeah. Same with steroids."
Q: How quickly could I mask it? What's the shortest time frame, if I knew it was coming, that I could mask it?
A: "I mean, we do no notice. We literally show up, and knock on a door, and we find them."
Q: My question is, if I knew 20 hours before the test, would I have time to mask it? Six hours? One hour? What would it be?
A: "Yep, all that."
Q: If I knew 10 minutes before test, could I mask it?
A: "Yep. If you had some urine and a Whizzinator, 10 minutes before, you could mask it. If you had a catheter, which is not that tough to do, you could do it."
Q: What about blood testing? Could I mask it then?
A: "For transfusions, the 14 days is not going to give you much concern. The evidence of the transfusion will stay in your system longer than the 14 days. But the human growth hormone, for sure not."