How about if Pac takes the test and lost?

like I said, the only way he can come out of this looking good is to take the tests and win the fight. If he loses, everyone, including me, will think he was on something for his other big wins. he did it to himself by jumping to the excuses rather than sitting down and reasoning it out. The problem is why Pac should take the test? It is because the family full of criminal records said so? Did you see the point? If one of your neighbors convicted with the criminal records of like selling crack, a drug addict himself, wife/female boxer assaulter and suspect in car park shooting himself spreading this rumors about you taking drugs without any proof or evidence against you. You will be happy of what he did? Of course not! You might challenge him in a fist fight but the catch? He will not fight you unless you prove to the neighborhood and himself that your not taking drugs and must be his friend or close associate (USADA) who must do the test. Funny isn't it?

If Pac takes the test and lost. Flomos: You see? He can't win without the peds. That's the biggest problem right there. There's no real shame in losing to Floyd. But losing to Floyd while taking the test is like losing twice as he'd lose and be judged as having taken PEDS previously. Even more so, his marketability takes a major hit.

If Pac takes the test and lost. Flomos: You see? He can't win without the peds. If pac takes the test and won. Flomos: He must be on something that can't be seen. If Pac doesn't take the test. Flomos: You see? He is hiding something and he must be on peds. :You_Rock_ I actually said this exact same thing early today in a thread. He's in a no win situation now in some peoples eyes. of course I've sentenced him guilty. He couldn't come up with one good reason NOT to take the tests and stick with it. 1. He says he's afraid of needles Everyone points out how many tattoos he has 2. He says he's superstitious about blood being taken making him weak Video emerges of him having blood taken before the Hatton fight 3. He says he'll let them take his blood 24 days out but no closer Mayweather calls his bluff and demands random testing with no cutoff 4. He says he'll have it taken 17 days out No dice Why keep changing the excuse? If he had a good one, he would have been using it from day one rather than changing it every time it comes up. How many of those "excuses" actually came from Pacs own mouth? As far as I know, the only thing that came directly from him was that he felt weak giving blood after the Morales fight. I could be wrong, if I am - could you please link me to where he said the other excuses himself? Not from Arum, Roach, Ariza, Koncz or whoever... but directly from Pac.

like I said, the only way he can come out of this looking good is to take the tests and win the fight. If he loses, everyone, including me, will think he was on something for his other big wins. he did it to himself by jumping to the excuses rather than sitting down and reasoning it out.

of course I've sentenced him guilty. He couldn't come up with one good reason NOT to take the tests and stick with it. 1. He says he's afraid of needles Everyone points out how many tattoos he has 2. He says he's superstitious about blood being taken making him weak Video emerges of him having blood taken before the Hatton fight 3. He says he'll let them take his blood 24 days out but no closer Mayweather calls his bluff and demands random testing with no cutoff 4. He says he'll have it taken 17 days out No dice Why keep changing the excuse? If he had a good one, he would have been using it from day one rather than changing it every time it comes up.

guilty before proven innocent! :You_Rock_ They already sentenced him guilty. So no matter what Pac do right now it doesn't matter anymore to them.

That's why I've been saying this forever now. The only way Pacquiao can win now is to take the test, come out clean and win. By refusing to take the test so quickly and coming up with all these cutoff dates of 24 days and 17 days, he only made it appear to everyone that he actually WAS on something. He did this to himself by crying foul as soon as steroid talk came up. I think he's guilty and always will unless he takes the test and beats Mayweather. If he takes the test and loses the fight, I'll honestly think he only got off them for one fight. Either way, Pacquiao is a fraud in my eyes based on the way he reacted to this situation. guilty before proven innocent! :You_Rock_

I don't think so. If Pac takes the test, passes, and beats Floyd. I'm sure Floyd stans will still give him credit. As much as some can be annoying, they normally give credit where credit is due. Also, majority will vanish if Floyd ever loses, specially to Pacquiao.

What if Pac lost, would you say he lost because he didnt used roids? :boxing: No he wouldn't because that would take away credit from Mayweathers win.

Take the full test, thats all I'm asking for. If he can do that and win, I give Pacquiao all the credit in the world. What if Pac lost, would you say he lost because he didnt used roids? :boxing:

Take the full test, thats all I'm asking for. If he can do that and win, I give Pacquiao all the credit in the world.

If Pac takes the test and lost. Flomos: You see? He can't win without the peds. If pac takes the test and won. Flomos: He must be on something that can't be seen. If Pac doesn't take the test. Flomos: You see? He is hiding something and he must be on peds. :You_Rock_ This is the basis of their lawsuit.

There is a drug called A-side meth which is invisible even OST's wont make the drug show its completely undetected.

No Ceilings, (the flomo leader) actually said that Pac was on undetectable PED's when he heard Pac agreed to OST... What a pity. Pac can't go either way.

there still no advance detection technique in detecting A-sidemeth ... so yeah flomos will say exactly how you wrote it!!

That's why I've been saying this forever now. The only way Pacquiao can win now is to take the test, come out clean and win. By refusing to take the test so quickly and coming up with all these cutoff dates of 24 days and 17 days, he only made it appear to everyone that he actually WAS on something. He did this to himself by crying foul as soon as steroid talk came up. I think he's guilty and always will unless he takes the test and beats Mayweather. If he takes the test and loses the fight, I'll honestly think he only got off them for one fight. Either way, Pacquiao is a fraud in my eyes based on the way he reacted to this situation.

If he shows up looking all flabby and fat, looks slow, gets tired fast. most people are going to come to that conclusion.

it would actually be worser if pac didn't take the test and won. nobody would take someone serious if they suggested he was on some secret government made ped's that was going to be given to american soldies in iraq.

No Ceilings, (the flomo leader) actually said that Pac was on undetectable PED's when he heard Pac agreed to OST... Could be, that's what's great about OST, they keep the blood/urine for 8 years so they can test later if their testing becomes more advanced.