On how he thinks his son would do at middleweight, possibly against someone like champion Sergio Martinez:
“My son is not a big guy. He’s just not a big guy, he’s not big. He’s about 5’8”, maybe 5’7 ½”. He’s just not a big person. I could see him outsmarting Martinez. Yeah, I could see him outsmarting Martinez. One thing about it, I don’t want anybody having an edge over my son because that’s my son, but I never have liked my son fighting southpaws. It’s not that he can’t beat them, because he beat all of them, his record reflects that, but I don’t like my son fighting southpaws. My son fought two southpaws that I know of. He fought one early in his career, pretty close before he got the title and he got cut pretty bad over the eye. Then when he fought Chop Chop Corley, Chop Chop Corley caught him off guard and hit him a couple of times in one fight. Like I said, it’s not that he can’t win because he has won, but I will just say a lot of guys power still come from a different angle and a different size and he’s not a great big guy. There’s no question in my mind that I got the strategy to train my son to offset a lot of this stuff, but I just don’t like him fighting southpaws because stuff comes from a different angle.”
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So this is one reason why the fight can't be made.
has this interview been confirmed? what's the source?
It makes sense that he doesn't want his son fighting Southpaws. The southpaw angles completely eliminate the use of the shoulder roll and Philly shell defense.
Against Southpaws, orthodox fighters can't use the roll since the power punches comes from the opposite angle of the roll.
Also, it makes Floyd's best punch...the straight-right counter...harder to land...since lefty's usually end up away from the Right-hand of the orthodox fighter.
But Pac has been a victim of counter punching his whole career it seems.
I'm a huge fan of Manny, but Floyd has just shown everyone exactly how superior his skills are.
But Manny's 31 yrs old, Mosley was about 50 on Sat night.
Good post.
Quote from thread starter is found in this interview....plus a whole lot more from Floyd "Joy" Mayweather SR.
Link http://www.3astsideboxing.com/news.php?p=23755&more=1
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from the jump, floyd sr brought up PEDs to duck the fight. that's all there is to it
for the boxing fans his intentions was already been known, but for the casual fans he's giving them a more detailed information why this ost has been brought by floyd.
has this interview been confirmed? what's the source?
It makes sense that he doesn't want his son fighting Southpaws. The southpaw angles completely eliminate the use of the shoulder roll and Philly shell defense.
Against Southpaws, orthodox fighters can't use the roll since the power punches comes from the opposite angle of the roll.
Also, it makes Floyd's best punch...the straight-right counter...harder to land...since lefty's usually end up away from the Right-hand of the orthodox fighter.
But Pac has been a victim of counter punching his whole career it seems.
I'm a huge fan of Manny, but Floyd has just shown everyone exactly how superior his skills are.
But Manny's 31 yrs old, Mosley was about 50 on Sat night.
floyd doesn't want his son to fight an ordinary southpaw how much more to an ATG southpaw, now i understand why floyd do this ost test.
With Sr. comments he's just making his son look bad, floyd sr is slowly revealing that the OST test is just for ducking. nyahhahaha
from the jump, floyd sr brought up PEDs to duck the fight. that's all there is to it
On how he thinks his son would do at middleweight, possibly against someone like champion Sergio Martinez:
“My son is not a big guy. He’s just not a big guy, he’s not big. He’s about 5’8”, maybe 5’7 ½”. He’s just not a big person. I could see him outsmarting Martinez. Yeah, I could see him outsmarting Martinez. One thing about it, I don’t want anybody having an edge over my son because that’s my son, but I never have liked my son fighting southpaws. It’s not that he can’t beat them, because he beat all of them, his record reflects that, but I don’t like my son fighting southpaws. My son fought two southpaws that I know of. He fought one early in his career, pretty close before he got the title and he got cut pretty bad over the eye. Then when he fought Chop Chop Corley, Chop Chop Corley caught him off guard and hit him a couple of times in one fight. Like I said, it’s not that he can’t win because he has won, but I will just say a lot of guys power still come from a different angle and a different size and he’s not a great big guy. There’s no question in my mind that I got the strategy to train my son to offset a lot of this stuff, but I just don’t like him fighting southpaws because stuff comes from a different angle.”
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So this is one reason why the fight can't be made.
You are absolutely right. If you go back to the summer of 2009, Mayweather never mentioned steroids, that talk didnt occur until he reunited with his Dad. His dad is a negative influence and he is the biggest obstacle on the Mayweather side of things thats holding this fight back.
On the Pacquiao side, its Bob Arum thats keeping the fight from happening. He hates Floyds guts, and just giving floyd the chance to beat his top fighter, is not worth the risk.
Basically you have two fathers who dont want to see their "sons" get beat.
Sr has been saying he doesn't like Floyd to fight Southpaw's for years, since the 90s, this is nothing new.
floyd doesn't want his son to fight an ordinary southpaw how much more to an ATG southpaw, now i understand why floyd do this ost test.
With Sr. comments he's just making his son look bad, floyd sr is slowly revealing that the OST test is just for ducking. nyahhahaha
Floyd adjusted to Judah Style by going to the Body.And Pacquiao has shorter arms and is a stupid fighter so he wont give Floyd the same problems.
actually, he adjusted to judahs style bu going into high guard and countering over his jab and pressuring.
Floyd Sr is just like any father. Always concerned about his son.
Nothing wrong with that. Plus who really likes fighting southpaws?
Pac will still get his ass beat. SR was concerned about the Corrales fight but look what happen.
Floyd adjusted to Judah Style by going to the Body.And Pacquiao has shorter arms and is a stupid fighter so he wont give Floyd the same problems. lol! how stupid are you saying Pacquiao stupid. Pac 7 divisions fighter, 4 lineal titles and fighter of the decade while Floyd? 0
Floyd adjusted to Judah Style by going to the Body.And Pacquiao has shorter arms and is a stupid fighter so he wont give Floyd the same problems.
A stupider fighter than Judah?
Floyd never wanted his son to fight Pacquiao coz Floyd ALWAYS has that weird tendancies to brawl with southpaws.
Floyd will try to outbrawl Pacquiao and KO him, which could benefit to Pacquiao since Pacquiao is a hard puncher and a brawler himself.
He was KD by Judah and was having trouble with him until Judah did his usual mental breakdown by the 4th round...
He was caught and hurt clean by Corley about 4 times in that fight, he was hurt badly too... now imagine if Corley actually had some power in his punches....
This is the real reason they keep making up excuses for the Pac fight falling through.
What you dont realise is that it's Floyd who breaks these guys down thru his counters.If you get countered everytime you throw a shot you will eventually run out of ideas just like Judah,Mosley and every one of Floyd's opponents.
Pacquiao's ass still get whooped whichever style he brings.Just take the tests
if style don't matter then just make the fight!!! Floyd sr already said floyd can beat pac w/o the tests... so put your money where you mouth is!!!